Lost OR / CR ni Raffy London

**badtoy** · October 29th, 2009 10:53 AM

I would like to seek some help from a mess Raffy London made regarding my former car's papers. He lost the original copy of the OR and CR.

Here is how it went. Before I sold my car to a friend, I had to clean up the papers because meron pang encumbered na nakaindicate sa CR however fully paid na yung loan since 1999 pa. I called up Raffy London last May 2009 para maassist nya ako to get a copy of the cancellation of chattel mortgage from BPI. I paid him 2500 for this and give him the orig OR and CR, and certificate of authorization to transact in behalf of me.

after 2 months he finally provided me the copy for cancellation of chattel mortgage from BPI. YUn nga lang wala yun rig OR/CR. I called up Raffy and for a number of instances that I got to talk to him, he confirmed that he lost the orig copy of the OR/CR. He said he will just get a duplicate copy from LTO and I provided him the last xerox copy or the OR CR and stencil. Hanggang ngayon wala pa rin siyang naibibigay na duplicate copy.

Nakuha na ng friend ko yun car last June and nabayaran na nya ako with the trust na i-provide ko all necessary papers. Nabigay ko na yun cancellation pero yun OR/CR hindi kasi nawala nga ni Raffy.

Mejo may matindi pang problema, bago ibenta yun car eh pinachange engine ko na. Naibigay ko na sa new owner yun papers ng new engine kaso nga lang nawala ng buyer yung papeles so in effect hindi mapachange engine sa LTO yun car kasi wala yung OR/CR tapus hindi din mapatanggal yun encumbered sa CR kasi walang yun orig and iba na ang engine number ng car.

Ano bang pwedeng gawin ko kasi nakakahiya naman sa bumili ng kotse ko na. Kasi chain effect yun nawala yun papers ng engine at yun orig OR/CR.

**nitrox** · October 29th, 2009 11:13 AM

Sino si Raffy London? Member ba sya dito sa Tsikot and you wanted to get his attention?

**badtoy** · October 29th, 2009 11:23 AM

May mga nakakakilala sa kanya kasi marami nagpapalakad sa kanya ng mga documents sa car lalo na rehistro especially sa mga local car forums like mymitsu,gt,hcp etc.

Im not really trying to get his attention kasi nakakausap ko naman siya kaso everytime I ask him palaging sinasabi nya wala pa kasi daw nabaha ang LTO and nagkagulo daw ang mga documents dun. Im just trying get advice from tsikoteers kung ano pwede kong gawin if in case ako na lang magayos ng lost OR/CR. Kahit makakuha lang ako ng duplicate OR/CR is enough

**shadow** · October 29th, 2009 12:20 PM

advice?

don't deal with fixers!

**badtoy** · October 29th, 2009 02:10 PM

yung pinalakad so kanya was nothing illegal at all actually. Hindi naman ako nagpalakad sa kanya ng mga papers sa LTO or any government office so technically hindi sya trabahong fixer.

I paid him for the service to transact with BPI and the registry of deeds in my behalf using an authorization certificate. kaso nga lang nawala nya yun mga OR/CR ko.

**shadow** · October 29th, 2009 02:23 PM

I've read about him in numerous car forums, his "expertise" are the no hassle, non-appearance dealings with LTO, right? still a fixer in my book.

best thing to do is get the xerox copy of your OR/CR then do it yourself, mabilis lang kumuha ng replacement ng CR sa LTO.

if I were in your shoes, bec of what happened, I will not let him do any filing on my behalf.

mods I think this thread should be in the "goon squad".

**vinj** · October 29th, 2009 04:17 PM

That Raffy London guy posted his services on the auto forums of Pinoyexchange.com and several guys availed of his services. I've been questioning the legality of his "business" and never got a straight answer. He's basically a glorified fixer in my books.

**MaxAJ** · October 30th, 2009 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by vinj

That Raffy London guy posted his services on the auto forums of Pinoyexchange.com and several guys availed of his services. I've been questioning the legality of his "business" and never got a straight answer. He's basically a glorified fixer in my books.

LTO fixers are one of the scammers in our country as far as I know. Nakaka asar awhile ago I just saw a sign informing us about how illegal a fixer is pero sa LTO pasay puro fixers nanduon sa labas ng parking lot.

**badtoy** · October 30th, 2009 04:35 PM

hindi ko naman inavail yun fixer service nya and didnt pay him for anything illegal.

Yun pinagawa ko sa kanya was not concerning LTO. Pinakuha ko lang yun cancellation of chattel mortgage sa bank. To get that document kelangan ng OR/CR pero hindi na nya sinoli yun OR/CR.