Life without cars

**unmarked** · February 22nd, 2016 06:11 PM

No, not until we all make the effort to improve our public transpo. We are looking at you bus operators, the gov't, taxi/jeepney drivers/operators etc.

the only time I favor public transpo is when alam ko na mas hassle ung parking, or very short trips.

There are times naglalakad nalang ako.

**yebo** · February 22nd, 2016 06:23 PM

magastos ang taxi. i take the taxi sometimes when parking is a problem. a trip that would normally cost me 1 liter of diesel and P45 in parking (total P75 or less) would cost me P150 in taxi fare. one way. add to that when you are in a rush you can't choose the taxi you ride on, kung ano unang dumating na walang sakay yun na. kahit bulok, kahit mabaho.

jeep, yep, i ride the jeep. kaya lang grabe sobrang bagal ng byahe. a 10 minute trip for me on my car will take the jeep 30 minutes. panay tigil, every corner it will stop to pick up or let off passengers. naghihintay pa. inalok ko na nga bayaran yung ibang upuan minsan ayaw naman tangapin ng driver. nainsulto pa daw siya. also i only ride on jeepneys during the day time during the off rush hours. rarely, very rarely and only for short trips, yung minimum fare lang ang pasahe.

city bus? i have not rid in one for a long long time. i am now somewhat afraid of riding a bus, even the air conditioned ones. na-holdap na ako before, tutok ice pick sa kidneys. naaah!

i tired a provincial bus last year. i missed the express sctex bus to gapo so i had to settle for the "express" one that exits nlex at san fernando. wow ang bagal. it took 4 hours to gapo, 15 minutes waiting at the station, then another 1-1/2 hours to my home town. total 5:45 hours! that trip normally just takes me 2-1/2 hours or less. going back i was able to get on the sctex express bus, but it still took 4 hours as the bus stops at mabalacat for a half hour! grrrr! yes i saved as the fare was less than half of what i would have spent on diesel and toll but the long travel time was not worth it.

MRT/LRT, pwede basta hindi rush hour. nasubukan ko pumila sa north avenue, grabe 1 hour bago ako naka-akyat. 6am yun ha. papunta kasi ako ng embassy sa makati at ang alam ko problema ang parking pero hindi naman pala, dami pala parking dun. so nung bumalik ako to get my passport nag-car na ako. but i do i take the LRT1 kung sa around avenida ako pupunta, lalo na kung sa raon or sta cruz area. pero pag around china town or tutuban mall, car ako.

so yes and NO. lamang ang NO.

**Wh1stl3r2** · February 22nd, 2016 06:37 PM

I get your points, there's nothing easy about commuting either. How about carpooling then? Or something like a school bus for work. Or having telcos instead of face to face meetings. On my end, by working at home I can proudly say my contribution to MM traffic is minimal.

*Niky
We have almost the same driven mileage. Are most of yours in the Metro? I guess its not so much the mileage that's worn me down but the other drivers we share the road with. Wave after wave of retards (pardon the politically incorrect but effective term) clogging yellow boxes, beating the yellow light, counterflowing, swerving right at the exit and cutting into the queue has just made me hate city driving. I can proudly say I never do any of these things but I keep wondering if the other people who hate these shenanigans do them.

Whenever it comes to driving into the Metro I feel like post-accident Ricky Bobby right now.

**cast_no_shadow** · February 22nd, 2016 07:02 PM

Actually carpool is practiced here in our office, sulit yung mga employees na van ang dala and dami colleagues who live nearby his area or along his route na dadaanan going to work.

Nabawasan na mga nagdadala ng oto sa office, nakatipid pa yung employee who leave their cars at home, nakatulong din dun sa van owner since bawi na yung fuel, meal expenses for the day may konting kita pa! win-win talaga.

Sadly walang nag ooffer na malapit samin, wala din ako maalok na maisabay.

Will not work for me too since mahirap sa carpool hindi mo hawak oras mo since a lot is depending sayo papasok at pauwi.

Given a chance? I will leave my car too as long as meron ako masasabayan.

Anything makaiwas lang sa public transpo.

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**papi smith** · February 22nd, 2016 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

magastos ang taxi. i take the taxi sometimes when parking is a problem. a trip that would normally cost me 1 liter of diesel and P45 in parking (total P75 or less) would cost me P150 in taxi fare. one way. add to that when you are in a rush you can't choose the taxi you ride on, kung ano unang dumating na walang sakay yun na. kahit bulok, kahit mabaho.

Ako naman yeboss, sa tingin ko mas mura ang taxi than a car, if I live and commute within Metro manila. Yung taxi fare, factored in na dyan ang gas, vehicle depreciation and maintenance, much less pa kung icompare mo sa suvs. Walang hassle sa paghanap ng parking at kung mabangga or ma flat, masiraan, wala kang gastos at masyadong hassle, bayaran mo sya at sumakay ulit sa iba. May driver ka pa. Downside of course is kung rush hour at mahirap kumuha ng taxi, pero pwede mo naman kontratahin para siguradong sakay ka. Yung madumi at mabaho, mahirap gawan ng paraan yun hehe.

But to answer the TS, na ang tanong ay "to get to Manila", so I assume coming from the outskirts, i prefer the bus, then taxi, lrt or jeep sa manila, depende sa situation. I hate bringing the car on a normal day and time to Manila, bakbakan ang traffic sa magallanes approach, box out ka ng mga bus at truck.

**squeesix** · February 22nd, 2016 07:16 PM

metro manila is seriously screwed because of the sheer number of vehicles - if only we had a metro tokyo rail system, or waaay better public transpo - only then would i even consider not using a car to/fm work.

minsan hassle na rin talaga mag-kotse. very different from 20, or even just 10 years ago.

**cast_no_shadow** · February 22nd, 2016 07:17 PM

Yung immediate visor ko, taxi sa morning average niya daily is 400-450 one way. Sabi ko langya hindi ka pa nakakaupo sa opisina ang laki na ng nalagas sa wallet mo.

Kaya hindi ko masisi minsan pagdating ng opisina mainit na ulo, malayo nararating ng metro ng taxi sa traffic sa morning rush hour.

He brought a trailblazer last year kahit hindi marunong mag drive, wala din gamay mag drive sa kanila ayun lampas isang taon na nasa 3K pa lang ata tinakbo, lugi siya sa gastos sa PMS since sinunod niya which ever comes first.

Lagi ako paulit ulit sa kanya na, mag aral mag drive. Yung daily taxi expenses niya sobra pa sa ikakargang krudo kako.

For him he'd rather sit on a cab/bus while being stuck sa traffic kesa mastress magmaneho sa traffic sa metro.

Magkaiba pala tayo ng point of view kako.

i rest my case.

To each his own talaga.

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**papi smith** · February 22nd, 2016 09:20 PM

So sa 450 x 2 way x 21 days/month = 18,900. Amortization pa lang yan, dagdagan mo pa ng gas, PMS, insurance at sakit ng ulo pag may bangga o flat tire. Dagdag mo pa car wash, waiting in line for parking at parking fee, pa rehistro every year

Haaay, sarap mag taksi

**KenGarcia** · February 22nd, 2016 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by papi smith

So sa 450 x 2 way x 21 days/month = 18,900. Amortization pa lang yan, dagdagan mo pa ng gas, PMS, insurance at sakit ng ulo pag may bangga o flat tire. Dagdag mo pa car wash, waiting in line for parking at parking fee, pa rehistro every year

Haaay, sarap mag taksi

Kung may panggastos at afford naman mas pipiliin ko na to na kaysa makipag sapalaran na maholdap or sa kung ano mang masamang bagay na pwedeng maranasan sa pag cocommute.

**niky** · February 22nd, 2016 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by squeesix

metro manila is seriously screwed because of the sheer number of vehicles - if only we had a metro tokyo rail system, or waaay better public transpo - only then would i even consider not using a car to/fm work.

minsan hassle na rin talaga mag-kotse. very different from 20, or even just 10 years ago.

Ten years ago, yes.

Around twenty... actually... time ni Ramos, di rin sulit magdala ng auto.

I still vividly recall the four-hour jams around Taft and EDSA at the time... traffic was so bad on Taft that my classmates would often park at La Salle and simply walk to UP. Yeah... that's several blocks.

Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r2

I get your points, there's nothing easy about commuting either. How about carpooling then? Or something like a school bus for work. Or having telcos instead of face to face meetings. On my end, by working at home I can proudly say my contribution to MM traffic is minimal.

*Niky
We have almost the same driven mileage. Are most of yours in the Metro? I guess its not so much the mileage that's worn me down but the other drivers we share the road with. Wave after wave of retards (pardon the politically incorrect but effective term) clogging yellow boxes, beating the yellow light, counterflowing, swerving right at the exit and cutting into the queue has just made me hate city driving. I can proudly say I never do any of these things but I keep wondering if the other people who hate these shenanigans do them.

Whenever it comes to driving into the Metro I feel like post-accident Ricky Bobby right now.

I used to be that arsehole. Swerving, counterflowing, singit-singit... bahala na kung may magalit... learned my lesson though... when I started to pay attention to the safety of my passengers, I realized I HATED guys who drove like me... so I changed my ways.

My mileage is Laguna-Manila-QC. Nowadays, I only have to drive once or twice a week... the days when I have more than three trips a week are torture.