Laguna Lakeshore Road Network (LLRN)

[ice15]

Laguna Lakeshore Expressway Dike - Wikipedia

Proposed road project to connect Lower Bicutan with Calamba, Laguna | Autoindustriya

Phase 1 of the LLRN project will have a 37.60-km main alignment with 8 interchanges. These include Sucat, Alabang, Tunasan, San Pedro/Binan, Santa Rosa, Cabuyao, and Calamba. It will have a two-lane primary road that will consist of an 11.80km viaduct from Lower Bicutan to Muntinlupa, and a 25.80km combination of onshore viaduct and embankment from Muntinlupa to Calamba.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Laguna Lakeshore Expressway Dike - Wikipedia

Proposed road project to connect Lower Bicutan with Calamba, Laguna | Autoindustriya

So much redundancy in the road networks. It just encourage more cars on the road.

[uls]

but tsikot forum loves cars

[dr. d]

So much redundancy in the road networks. It just encourage more cars on the road.

LRTs would be nice,
except that it takes too darn long to complete!
ang makikinabang ay ang susunod na administrations...
my hat off to administrations that initiate LRTs and such.
heh heh.

[kagalingan]

South of ncr is the road to malas.

[Lew_Alcindor]

LRTs would be nice,
except that it takes too darn long to complete!
ang makikinabang ay ang susunod na administrations...
my hat off to administrations that initiate LRTs and such.
heh heh.

Yan ang kinainis ko kay Noynoy. Pinatigil yung North Rail ni GMA. Yes it is most likley riddled with corruption but it could have started the train-boom early.

Almost zero ang train sector sa Pinas. It can be an industry on its own - building tracks, developing rolling stocks, etc.

The same with shipping..

[Dr.Kamiya]

So much redundancy in the road networks. It just encourage more cars on the road.

On the contrary I think it's the opposite. The more roads there are, the less cars there will be in any one particular route.

It's economic development that encourages travel, not the mere presence of roads. And development outside of Metro Manila should be encouraged because it allows us to slowly unpack the Metro as more jobs and commerce hubs become available elsewhere.

[Lew_Alcindor]

On the contrary I think it's the opposite. The more roads there are, the less cars there will be in any one particular route.

It's economic development that encourages travel, not the mere presence of roads. And development outside of Metro Manila should be encouraged because it allows us to slowly unpack the Metro as more jobs and commerce hubs become available elsewhere.

Thats a short-sighted thinking. Even if there are less cars per route, if those cars plan to go to the same area, bottlenecks will still be there.

[ice15]

IMO, people will buy cars. period. kahit hindi nila magamit yan sa mahal ng gas
kahit hindi gumalaw car sa EDSA

House-Car-Jewelry/Leather/Watch -> yan normally napupunta $$$ ng tao.

even in countries na maganda public transport, walang car yung walang pambili

so a new roads are always nice

Asking the Gov't for a new train is unfair to the provinces

Pero the private sector will always open their wallets for new toll roads

Just like SS3, I have friends living in the South who will benefit from this project.

[Gumusut_Amige]

IMO, people will buy cars. period. kahit hindi nila magamit yan sa mahal ng gas
kahit hindi gumalaw car sa EDSA

House-Car-Jewelry/Leather/Watch -> yan normally napupunta $$$ ng tao.

even in countries na maganda public transport, walang car yung walang pambili

so a new roads are always nice

Asking the Gov't for a new train is unfair to the provinces

Pero the private sector will always open their wallets for new toll roads

Just like SS3, I have friends living in the South who will benefit from this project.

bakit maging unfair para sa mga tiga provinces pag may new railroads/trains?
di ba dapat magpasalamat kami dahil meron ng choices para sa amin.

[uls]

IMO, people will buy cars. period. kahit hindi nila magamit yan sa mahal ng gas
kahit hindi gumalaw car sa EDSA

House-Car-Jewelry/Leather/Watch -> yan normally napupunta $$$ ng tao.

haha

kahit di ginagamit ung kotse

basta makompleto ung visual ng bahay

pangit naman pag wala kotse sa driveway

it's about the visual

hehe

[Lew_Alcindor]

IMO, people will buy cars. period. kahit hindi nila magamit yan sa mahal ng gas
kahit hindi gumalaw car sa EDSA

House-Car-Jewelry/Leather/Watch -> yan normally napupunta $$$ ng tao.

even in countries na maganda public transport, walang car yung walang pambili

so a new roads are always nice

Asking the Gov't for a new train is unfair to the provinces

Pero the private sector will always open their wallets for new toll roads

Just like SS3, I have friends living in the South who will benefit from this project.

a lot of disconnect in this argument...

I'm not against people buying cars...a person can buy all the cars he can...it is his right

People buying cars and govt improving the railway system is not mutually exclusive . . .

"Building railway is unfair to the provinces" shows how limited your views on railways are....FYI, railways can be built from from NCR to provinces also . .

[Dr.Kamiya]

Thats a short-sighted thinking. Even if there are less cars per route, if those cars plan to go to the same area, bottlenecks will still be there.

But that's also what I was saying: The mere presence of a road wouldn't mean that people will suddenly go somewhere.
I wouldn't go to Laguna just because a new road going there is built, since I have no reason to go to Laguna.

The reason to go to Laguna isn't dictated by the road, but by other factors --economic activity, relatives, etc. Does someone have family, property or business there? Merely building a road does nothing to increase these.

So we have the same number of people who want to go to, and have reason to go to Laguna.
Adding another road going there means the existing road will be decongested.