"Future bus speed limit for Metro Manila buses: 40 km/hr"

[ghosthunter]

Future bus speed limit for Metro Manila buses: 40 km/hr
by Rappler.com
Posted on 02/27/2012 4:10 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Buses plying Metro Manila roads will soon be fitted with a gadget that will physically limit speed at up to 40 kilometers (km) per hour.

Transportation Secretary Mar Roxas said the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) will issue a memorandum circular (MC) soon requiring metro bus drivers and operators to install speed limiters, which will each cost around P10,000.

“These are mechanical gadgets that will be attached to the engines and transmission of buses that will physically limit the maximum speed at 40 km per hour. The implementation of which will be done on a staggered basis,” said Roxas.

“The MC will include penalties for tampering. There will be a fleet-wide penalty so that bus owners can make sure that all their units are equipped with speed limiters. We are targeting a 100-percent compliance for the metro buses before the year ends,” said the transportation chief.

There are 4,000 metro buses plying the metropolis and 7,000 registered provincial buses with the LTFRB.

Eventually, speed limits will also be imposed on provincial bus operators, he added.

Data provided by the DOTC stated that in 2011 there were 395 victims recorded from bus accidents nationwide. Of which, 74 died and were 300 injured. - Rappler.com

SOURCE: Future bus speed limit for Metro Manila buses: 40 km/hr

[vinj]

Expect the bus operators to gripe and whine about the speed limiter price. Can't they hide the cost into registration/franchise fees and amortize it over 2-3 years?

Are these only limiters or something like a black box/GPS device that can also send a signal on the route of the bus, moving and stopped times at bus stops, etc.?

My take:
City Buses - 45kph
Provincial buses - 80kph or 90kph

That should be "fare" enough. :D

Tapos may bomba sa ilalim ng bus driver seat. If he stays too long at a bus stop, goes out of the yellow lane or goes out of route, automatic sasabog.

[IMm29]

Tapos may bomba sa ilalim ng bus driver seat. If he stays too long at a bus stop, goes out of the yellow lane or goes out of route, automatic sasabog.

Yung bomba nakatapat lang sa driver's seat, kaya walang madadamay na pasahero. Hmmmm!!!! ;)

[myk384]

Kung pwede taasan ng konti sa provincial buses.. 4OKmh is too little sa highways.

[flakez]

wpede siguro mga 50. ako 50 lang average ko sa edsa eh. dami kasi lubak. haha

[uls]

sana yung headline "Future No Buses for Metro Manila"

[jmpet626]

Kahit 40 km per hour lang swerve pa din ng swerve mga bus. Dapat may pang limit din ng pag liko ng bus sa edsa.

[greatauror28]

Dapat ang provincial buses when travelling along EDSA 40kph lang din sila but will automatically allowed to go beyond that if they reaches the expressway.

Imagine, byaheng Albay pero 40kph lang
urat na mga pasahero nasa Quezon pa lang sila

[rockiee_s]

i hope this solves the frequent deadly accidents i see on tv for the past few weeks. almost always involving busses and trucks losing their brakes.

this should work given that bus drivers will have a monthly salary instead of commission basis.

praying na maging successful......for safer roads in manila.

[Chikselog]

Yung bomba nakatapat lang sa driver's seat, kaya walang madadamay na pasahero. Hmmmm!!!! ;)

Kapag inapply ora mismo yan, magmimistulang may fireworks sa buong EDSA.

[chua_riwap]

Dapat ang provincial buses when travelling along EDSA 40kph lang din sila but will automatically allowed to go beyond that if they reaches the expressway.

Imagine, byaheng Albay pero 40kph lang
urat na mga pasahero nasa Quezon pa lang sila

yung mga m.manila buses ata ang mauuna.
then yung prov.buses, eventually may speed limits din, sa edsa.

di pwede sa prov. buses yung 40kph lang.

[XTO]

Sana nga matuloy ito

[vinj]

Yung bomba nakatapat lang sa driver's seat, kaya walang madadamay na pasahero. Hmmmm!!!! ;)

Ganyan nga. Fireworks display tayo sa EDSA nyan.

Speed limits for provincial buses on the highway would definitely be a higher; i'd estimate they'd peg it at around 80kph thereabouts.

i hope this solves the frequent deadly accidents i see on tv for the past few weeks. almost always involving busses and trucks losing their brakes.

this should work given that bus drivers will have a monthly salary instead of commission basis.

praying na maging successful......for safer roads in manila.

I agree to this. The salary system also has to be changed and this has been pointed out time and again by many sectors. In fact, the city buses are one thing that i think can be controlled and monopolized by the government.

At those getting into accidents because "nawalang ng preno"; had they not been going fast in the first place, even if they lose their brakes they could still properly control the vehicle and avoid any accident.

[A121]

Pointless and stupid.

If they want less accidents and want to serve the public better, cancel all the bus franchises, lease all the buses and implement a Bus Rapid Transport system.

But then again this is the Philippines. Everything should be as inefficient as possible.

[niky]

40 is too low. A GPS or chip enabled 60 km/h limiter inside city limits and 80 km/h outside will be perfect.

40 km/h is just under the edge for fuel economy. A brick like a bus would hit best economy around 50-60 km/h, because it's not fighting frictional losses from the tires and drivetrain all the time at those speeds. (If the buses were more streamlined, they'd be more economical at 80 km/h... but that would require modifying the entire Philippine fleet extensively)

[cripple_rooster]

Speed limits for provincial buses on the highway would definitely be a higher; i'd estimate they'd peg it at around 80kph thereabouts.
(...)
At those getting into accidents because "nawalang ng preno"; had they not been going fast in the first place, even if they lose their brakes they could still properly control the vehicle and avoid any accident.

90kmph for provincial buses and 60kmph for urban buses sound reasonable.

As far as brake failures go, it's worth to note that diesel-powered heavy-duty vehicles are usually fitted with exhaust-brakes, and often even with a hydraulic "retarder", and these devices not just overcome the lack of engine-braking power from a diesel engine but also increase the brake capability at all. It ends up being not so unusual for some diesel-powered heavy-duty vehicles to have an increased brake pads useful life than a comparable CNG-powered one would have. Once a provincial bus driver told me he could drive for some long distances even thru hilly terrain without the usage of the main brake...

[Ry_Tower]

Sana this will make the road safer. Yung sa driver seat kahit hindi na bomba, electric shock lang to remind him. hehe

[KERSMcRae]

dapat kasi government ang nagpapatakbo ng bus system sa MM at bawasan na ang mga pasaway na owner ng private bus companies, or MM LGUs, para naman hindi mag-reklamo ang mga nasa probinsya. Inuuna kasi ang pabahay sa mga parasite na squatters eh.

[niwde11]

i think its a band aid solution. i agree with niky that 40 or 45kph is to slow.
di naman problema ang bilis eh. ang probleman naguunahan or it is more like racing with each other.
overspeeding is very much different sa reckless driving(swerving dito swerving doon)
tapos pag nakauna pa, ginagawang terminal. nagbabayad pa lang yata sa mall yung sasakay hinihintay na. ang mabigat dito diagonal pa hinto sa edsa. :twak:

[vinj]

i think its a band aid solution. i agree with niky that 40 or 45kph is to slow.
di naman problema ang bilis eh. ang probleman naguunahan or it is more like racing with each other.
overspeeding is very much different sa reckless driving(swerving dito swerving doon)
tapos pag nakauna pa, ginagawang terminal. nagbabayad pa lang yata sa mall yung sasakay hinihintay na. ang mabigat dito diagonal pa hinto sa edsa. :twak:

So mas feasible nga yung lagyan ng bomba or electric shocker yung drivers seat.

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Excerpts from: Regulators to set 40 km/h speed limit for Metro buses | BusinessWorld Online Edition

Alex R. Yague, president of the Provincial Bus Operators Association of the Philippines, was critical of the scheme.

"We support all government regulations, but I think there should be a consultation on the part of the bus operators," Mr. Yague said.

"Why only buses? Why not private vehicles too?"