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  1. Join Date
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    Having driven around the area numerous times, I just wonder if those u-turn flyovers is the result of someone's thinking being too narrow?

    Why?

    How much more would it cost if they would make those u-turn flyovers into true-blue straight overpass flyovers? It would make more sense to make them into something similar to what we have at EDSA/Santolan intersection, right?

    So who do we motorists and tax payers behead for this white elephant of a road project?

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    oo nga! bakit di nalang ginawang totoong flyover system yan??

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    Straight flyovers would've been more practical, since a lot of the traffic goes to and from SLEX/fort anyway.

    This fascination with U-turns is really annoying. For those plying commonwealth avenue regularly, there's another 4-lane-eating, permanent U-turn slot to be constructed at commonwealth, near central. drivers can see the yellow markings where it will be

    Considering what the other permanent U-turn slots did to rush hour traffic in commonwealth, this is bound to be another epic failure.

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    Ano nga kaya ang resulta ng study ng MM Traffic Engineering dito para nila mai-justify ang elevated u-turn vs. a flyover?.... Mayroon nga kayang MM Traffic Engineering?

    7707:band:

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    A straight flyover still needs a traffic light underneath it for vehicles turning left while a pesky U-turn flyover doesn't even need one. All vehicles will be free flowing in all directions.
    Para lang syang rotonda but elevated :twak:

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    I already have an opinion on this....
    For now i will reserve my judgement until the 2 eleveted U turn is fully functional.

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    mukang malapit na matapos ung northbound na flyover... kelana kaya to matatapos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Having driven around the area numerous times, I just wonder if those u-turn flyovers is the result of someone's thinking being too narrow?

    Why?

    How much more would it cost if they would make those u-turn flyovers into true-blue straight overpass flyovers? It would make more sense to make them into something similar to what we have at EDSA/Santolan intersection, right?

    So who do we motorists and tax payers behead for this white elephant of a road project?
    Question - don't you think it would be better if you withheld judgement and see how things turn out before complaining?

    FYI, I am neither in favor nor against it. Hinay-hinay lang sa init ng ulo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepy View Post
    Question - don't you think it would be better if you withheld judgement and see how things turn out before complaining?
    Maybe if this was a TEMPORARY experiment by the MMDA, well then good. Let them try something new. Unfortunately this is something PERMANENT and costing millions of pesos to build. This is not simply something that can be removed and placed elsewhere if the "experiment" doesn't work out.

    And the source of this white elephant of a problem is exactly what you are proposing us to do, to keep silent about it. No one voiced out loud enough at the start of the project saying that the design would have been better if it was made as a standard flyover instead of the elevated u-turns which are wrongly designed to keep traffic smoothly flowing. Why do I know that? Simple, what happens when you squeeze C5's four fast flowing lanes down to two and a half lanes? Congestion!

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    u-turn slots, and i don't mean just the ones in c5, don't help ease traffic. in fact, they do the exact opposite - cause heavy build-up. worse, the build-up affects not just one but both directions - where the u-turning vehicles are coming from and going to.

    aside from causing heavy traffic, it also promotes the kanya-kanya driving style, i.e. kanya-kanyang diskarete sa pag u-turn, bahala na yong ibang sasakyan sa buhay nila, basta ako makapag u-turn.

    lastly, the barriers are not safe. ilang sasakyan na ba ang nabunggo sa mga barriers ng mga u-turn slots na yan?

    bakit kasi hindi na lang traffic light ang gamitin? matattraffic ka na rin lang, don na sa me kaayusan. bayani, dumaan ka kasi sa mga kalsadang pinaglalalagyan mo ng u-turn slots ng walang kasamang mga hagad, para makita mo epekto ng mga pinaggagagawa mo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by n1kn0k View Post
    u-turn slots, and i don't mean just the ones in c5, don't help ease traffic. in fact, they do the exact opposite - cause heavy build-up. worse, the build-up affects not just one but both directions - where the u-turning vehicles are coming from and going to.
    Ask anyone who uses Quezon Ave or Marcos Highway regularly today (and before the u-turns slots were set up) before you make a comment like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepy View Post
    Ask anyone who uses Quezon Ave or Marcos Highway regularly today (and before the u-turns slots were set up) before you make a comment like this.

    i have to agree with creepy on this one ... traffic before when the intesection of imelda ave(a tuazon) and marcos hiway(sta lucia mall /tropical hut/mc donald's intersection) was still open it was a b#%ch to pass by that intesection ...now its a smooth sailing operation for the last 5 or more so years no complaints here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepy View Post
    Ask anyone who uses Quezon Ave or Marcos Highway regularly today (and before the u-turns slots were set up) before you make a comment like this.
    +1 here. I dreaded passing Quezon Ave. before because of all those traffic lights that were causing major travel time delays, specially when they were just green for just 10 seconds!

    Now, I could travel from Edsa to Araneta Ave. in just under 10 mins.

Those pesky U-turn flyovers at C5 ...