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    Solon seeks stiffer penalties for drunk, drugged drivers - News | TopGear.com.ph

    I think the P500,000 is too much. Baka mga P50,000. hehe, binawasan ko lang ng isang bitlog.

    May babayaran pa rin kasi naman siya dun sa madidisgrasya niya. Malas lang kung paktay na yung driver. So I guess ati yung registered owner ng car may malaking liability din para hindi talaga i-tolerate yan IMHO.
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    eh kung dahil sa lasing or addict, namatay ang close relatives mo, too much pa rin ba yung 500,000? i think that's an acceptable amount. multiply na lang depende kung mas madaming napatay yung drunk/drugged driver (kung halimbawa 3 passengers napatay, dapat 500,000 x 3).

    BUT, ang dapat kakambal ng bill na ito is guidelines on apprehension, procedures on how to test and prove one's alcohol/intoxication level. ang hirap lang kasi dito eh, may penalty na, pero wala naman talagang existing means ang traffic enforcers to test for the presence of alcohol.

    para naman matakot yung mga bus driver rin na lasing tapos nakaka-aksidente, tapos sorry na lang pagnakapatay.

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    Dapat if proven drunk yung driver, may tester sila ng alcohol level sa isang body. And as the alcohol level goes higher, the penalty also goes up alongside with it.

    If it's just borderline, a little fine would do, UNLESS an accident leading to homicide happens, dun papasok ang 500k which I support naman. IMO hindi siya too much. If you can't afford risking 500k then don't drink & drive in the first place. Gimik? Mag-taxi ka. Delikado? Have someone else drive for you.

    Ganun lang naman yun.

    Tapos driving under the influence of drugs tapos nakapatay pa should be atleast 1M fine. It hurts, but if that's what we should do to shut addicts up then wala na tayo magagawa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Dapat if proven drunk yung driver, may tester sila ng alcohol level sa isang body. And as the alcohol level goes higher, the penalty also goes up alongside with it.

    If it's just borderline, a little fine would do, UNLESS an accident leading to homicide happens, dun papasok ang 500k which I support naman. IMO hindi siya too much. If you can't afford risking 500k then don't drink & drive in the first place. Gimik? Mag-taxi ka. Delikado? Have someone else drive for you.

    Ganun lang naman yun.

    Tapos driving under the influence of drugs tapos nakapatay pa should be atleast 1M fine. It hurts, but if that's what we should do to shut addicts up then wala na tayo magagawa.
    +10000000

    if only this can be enforced properly. ang hirap lang kasi sa ganito eh baka gamitin rin na paraan para maka-kotong ang mga lasing/addict na traffic enforcers. hehe

    traffic rules should really penalize those who blatantly disregard the safety of others on the road. dami kasi palusot eh.

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    For a sanction to be effective, it has to be both preventive and punitive. I believe Php500,000 is not too much. In fact, I would go for Php 1 million. After all, the value of a life is much more. This would make potential violators really think before they do something stupid. Also, there should be a guideline such as the use of a camera when apprehending a suspected drunk driver to ensure a fair process takes place.

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    Siguro mas ok kung may random checkpoints na itayo na malapit sa malalakas na clubs.

    Preventive na din ito.

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    wag kalimutan na pwedeng baliktarin ang kuwento at ikaw ang tamaan ng batas na ito. halimbawa kinat ka ng motor at nasagasaan ang rider at namatay, sa hitsura ng aksidente ikaw ang may sala... di mo rin masiguro ang buong pangyayari kasi may konting tama ka, binomba na rin ng pulis ang mga numero ng breathalyzer laban sayo, :lol: 500,000...

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    getting drunk is no accident neither is getting drugged. if you know you have ingested or has introduced intoxicating substances to your body, you should not drive. if you kill somebody because you were under the influence of intoxicants, it is involuntary manslaughter and is punishable by incarceration and the driver's license is revoked. it is however, difficult if not impossible to enforce since majority of our police force are on foot aside from quite a number who are corrupt. another bad thing is when it is somebody affiliated with a strong politician or somebody who can pay off, the case disappears. even our cops are mostly untrained, poorly equipped, meagerly paid makes it a dog and pony show. most don't even know how to apprehend, handcuff or respond to infractions or accidents

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiej View Post
    wag kalimutan na pwedeng baliktarin ang kuwento at ikaw ang tamaan ng batas na ito. halimbawa kinat ka ng motor at nasagasaan ang rider at namatay, sa hitsura ng aksidente ikaw ang may sala... di mo rin masiguro ang buong pangyayari kasi may konting tama ka, binomba na rin ng pulis ang mga numero ng breathalyzer laban sayo, :lol: 500,000...
    "May tama" means one drank alcohol, so one shouldn't have been behind the wheel. No excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalron View Post
    "May tama" means one drank alcohol, so one shouldn't have been behind the wheel. No excuses.

    if you were the intoxicated driver, you are already at fault. in this case, how are you going to prove the bike rider cut in front of you. but the cops can prove you were drunk. besides, the dead guy ain't going to jail. he's going six feet under and you're going to the slammer

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiej View Post
    wag kalimutan na pwedeng baliktarin ang kuwento at ikaw ang tamaan ng batas na ito. halimbawa kinat ka ng motor at nasagasaan ang rider at namatay, sa hitsura ng aksidente ikaw ang may sala... di mo rin masiguro ang buong pangyayari kasi may konting tama ka, binomba na rin ng pulis ang mga numero ng breathalyzer laban sayo, :lol: 500,000...
    Still, you're intoxicated. You drove. That already is punishable by law. Moreover when you run into someone and kill him accidentally. Cinut ka or hindi is alreay irrelevant since lasing ka nga.

    However, if you haven't drunk a single shot and someone cuts you and you run over him, then, that's a different story.

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    no insurance covers your fault or not if you got into an accident. you pay for all the medical bills along with other bills the victim suffered because of the accident plus the punishment of killing somebody and the guilty conscience that haunts you for as long as you live.

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    no amount of compensation emotional endearment can supplant the loss of lives to the victim/s family not to mention the bleak future ahead of them becoz of the tragic incident...i think the proposed penalty is reasonable enough considering the accompanying damages it would entail to the driver violator, i was hoping w/ corresponding jail terms at least from six mos to 1 year maybe...and with strict implementation of this law through the proper training of personnel, additional equipments (include also the CCTV cam on every major & secondary roads) & continuous monitoring by those government agencies involved, then maybe this could work out for us all...fair for us drivers who always think of the safety not only of our passenger family but people in the street as well...

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    ^ masakit talaga.
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    really, not a drop? a bit of a buzz for lightweights is DUI? sigurado may tatamaan dito na binaliktad lang i may not know the whole story, but i knew someone who was in the right but all the available defense were thrown out the window by the fiscal. you don't die, you're at fault hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiej View Post
    really, not a drop? a bit of a buzz for lightweights is DUI? sigurado may tatamaan dito na binaliktad lang i may not know the whole story, but i knew someone who was in the right but all the available defense were thrown out the window by the fiscal. you don't die, you're at fault hehe
    Whatever the law prescribes as allowable alcohol levels in the bloodstream for continuing to drive is still a guide. At the end of the day, a responsible person will not drive if he ingested alcohol.If he thinks he is capable of driving and is still within the limits prescribed by the law, then let him risk it but he needs to know that he is still responsible for anything bad that happens on the road. It's not about being macho, or a lightweight, or whatever it is. It is about respecting the lives of other people.

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    hhhmmmm....

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    Not because I do not drink but I am for stiffer penalties. This reinforces one (if not the main) purpose of the law, DRIVING RESPONSIBLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benzmizer View Post
    Not because I do not drink but I am for stiffer penalties. This reinforces one (if not the main) purpose of the law, DRIVING RESPONSIBLY.
    Agree ako dito. no other comments.

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    siguro dapat ipagbawal na rin ang alcohol/inuman sa gas station (duh). bawal drunk driving, pero pwede ka uminom sa gas station?? minsan may makikikita ka pang nagiinuman (at Nagyoyosi!) sa gas station parking malapit sa convenience stores habang nagpapabayo ng mga "porma" cars. it's like you're promoting drunk driving kung pinapayagan mong maginuman ang mga may dala ng kotse sa gas station (baka runner up na rin mga carwash)

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