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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    yung mrt station gaya ng north edsa, gma-kamuning lagi din may traffik dun sa baba, aba isara na din yan pag monday!

    utak bureaucrat naman talaga oo!

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    yung munoz market lagi may trapik, abay isara na din yan pag monday! walang kainan pag monday, double benefit pa makakapag-reduce ka na!

    utak bureaucrat naman talaga oo!

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    Eh d magpuntahan naman sa kung saan bukas ang mall, doble o triple pa magiging dami ng tao lol. Para sa akin disiplina lang talaga kailangan sa lahat ng aspeto. Mapa public utility driver ka, trapik enforcers, government officials etc, pag tapak mo sa kalsada disiplina pairalin.


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    Closing the malls twice a week will effectively put one-fourth to one-third of all mall employees (all contractual... shifting) out of work. All for what? Malls open at 10-11 am, AFTER rush hour, and close after 9pm... again... AFTER rush hour.

    In other words, you've put thousands of people out of work and have reduced commuter load in the 7-9 am rush hour by... 0.5% (for those skeleton crews of janitors and security that open the malls before store employees can come in). Good job!

    Sige... tell mall owners they have to hire three shifts of people when they only need two. Tell them to share the profit that way. And while you're at it... hire three maids for your house, even if one won't come to work at all.

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    All these volume reduction schemes do is shuffle people around. What we need is to 1. Get rid of those people, and 2. Fix our transport system so it can cope with those left behind.

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    What's necessary is proper traffic management and centralized PUB/PUV routing and trip management. Some bus companies practice this within their fleets to prevent overlap... but this should really be done system-wide, to more evenly space out buses on the same line and to decongest thoroughfares.

    Further measures can include centralized planning of opening and closing times of businesses. Make it so that businesses sitting beside each other have staggered opening and closing times. Businesses already do this on their own. But if all the businesses and schools in an area work together, they can more effectively distribute the commuter load.

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    Long term, we need to give tax and economic incentives to people and businesses to leave the city. Otherwise, they're all going to want to live within five kilometers of Makati and Quezon City. Which means more and more of our 100 million people will be concentrated in a smaller and smaller space.
    Last edited by niky; October 1st, 2014 at 11:35 AM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Closing the malls twice a week will effectively put one-fourth to one-third of all mall employees (all contractual... shifting) out of work. All for what? Malls open at 10-11 am, AFTER rush hour, and close after 9pm... again... AFTER rush hour.

    In other words, you've put thousands of people out of work and have reduced commuter load in the 7-9 am rush hour by... 0.5% (for those skeleton crews of janitors and security that open the malls before store employees can come in). Good job!

    Sige... tell mall owners they have to hire three shifts of people when they only need two. Tell them to share the profit that way. And while you're at it... hire three maids for your house, even if one won't come to work at all.

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    All these volume reduction schemes do is shuffle people around. What we need is to 1. Get rid of those people, and 2. Fix our transport system so it can cope with those left behind.

    -

    What's necessary is proper traffic management and centralized PUB/PUV routing and trip management. Some bus companies practice this within their fleets to prevent overlap... but this should really be done system-wide, to more evenly space out buses on the same line and to decongest thoroughfares.

    Further measures can include centralized planning of opening and closing times of businesses. Make it so that businesses sitting beside each other have staggered opening and closing times. Businesses already do this on their own. But if all the businesses and schools in an area work together, they can more effectively distribute the commuter load.

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    Long term, we need to give tax and economic incentives to people and businesses to leave the city. Otherwise, they're all going to want to live within five kilometers of Makati and Quezon City. Which means more and more of our 100 million people will be concentrated in a smaller and smaller space.
    sinagot na pala ni nicky, sorry. nice one!

    in france they have another city for their businesses, you wont see those tall sky scrappers in paris... unlike torre dela (&^%^*^)manila in rizal park
    Last edited by victorevolution; October 1st, 2014 at 12:54 PM.

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    IMHO, color coding, banning riders in tandem, truck bans, etc. are all from the same frame of mind - knee-jerk reactions (which adversely affect the economy, employment) and will not solve the problem. In each case, we need short term solutions and a long term solutions. In the case of crime: short term solutions- greater police visibility, involve the local community (citizens' neighborhood watch, deputize barangay tanods); long term solution- attract investments both foreign and local to improve the economy and reduce unemployment, reduce red tape, reduce corruption. Traffic problem: short term solution- enforce traffic rules, enforce bus/jeepney stops, stagger opening and closing times as Niky suggested; long term solution- efficient mass transit system that will reach the suburbs.

    We need real public administrators.
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    They should ban those rolling advertisement trucks. They eat up space for no value at all and they roll slowly. There are already too many billboards in the city anyway.

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    eventually, they will paint people and color-code them.
    bawal lumabas nang bahay one day in a week!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    eventually, they will paint people and color-code them.
    bawal lumabas nang bahay one day in a week!!!
    then yung mga 60 yrs old pataas iphase-out na
    pero matagal pa to kasi traffic palang naman ang sinusolusyunan e,
    malamang pag populasyon na ang hinanapan nila ng solusyon hahaha

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    paint people and color code them! bawal lumabas nang bahay, one day a week. (already said)

    phase out 65-and-abovers.. mabuhay ang soylent green!!!

    but seriously, our planners should "inspire" industry to move out of the crowded city and into new developments outside.. make it expensive for them to set up shop in the city.. larger taxes, more stringent requirements, high "breakdown fines" for stalled motor vehicles that are obstructing traffic.. yeah.. make it very expensive for operators who do not maintain well their vehicles..
    nawalan ng brakes daw... 50K fine!

    punish jaywalkers! one day imprisonment or one day "public service" (street sweeper, sidewalk painter, etc..)

    but to close malls once a week? e, 'di sa kabilang mall lang pupunta ang tayong mga langgam..
    Last edited by dr. d; October 17th, 2014 at 05:12 PM.

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    TS for LTFRB or MMDA chairman.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by alakdan168 View Post
    To ease our traffic woos, government officials are desperately seeking short term solutions for the traffic problems. Te likes of closing U-turn slots, banning then lifting truck bans, and the latest, a four day work week for government offices.

    Why don't we close shopping malls once or twice a week instead? It is very obvious that shopping malls contribute a lot to our traffic problems.. in the Metro Manila area as well as in provincial high ways where malls are allowed to operate.

    This could be done with different variations. Like along EDSA Mandaluyong, Mega Mall closes on Mondays, Galleria on Tuesdays, Shangri La on Wednesdays, or they can all close every Mondays... things like that. Aside from the possible easing of traffic, we also solve our eletricity shortage.

    What do you think?
    kawawa yung mga contractual worker... no work no pay, plus they dont have the added benefits.

    short term solution wont work.

    long term- better mass transport- better mrt - expand it- better pnr - then expand it again

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    ABSCBN is currently developing a corporate office in Bulacan. I heard all companies that are part of their group will transfer as well.


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    I really wish we could decongest Makati/Fort/Ortigas. Westgate and Sta. Rosa/Nuvali are ideal places to relocate for businesses. Our company is actually pondering on moving to Nuvali already.

    However, a big blocker to this being feasible is the cost for employees. Just because a company moves out of Manila doesn't mean its employees will move out as well. Imagine the cost of driving from QC to Nuvali - aside from the gas you'll be burning in traffic in C5, you'll be paying exorbitant toll. Just the toll alone will already double your monthly transpo expenses.

    As much as I want to live in the south, the fact that so much of our economy is still north of the SLEX makes it a very expensive and time-consuming option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I really wish we could decongest Makati/Fort/Ortigas. Westgate and Sta. Rosa/Nuvali are ideal places to relocate for businesses. Our company is actually pondering on moving to Nuvali already.

    However, a big blocker to this being feasible is the cost for employees. Just because a company moves out of Manila doesn't mean its employees will move out as well. Imagine the cost of driving from QC to Nuvali - aside from the gas you'll be burning in traffic in C5, you'll be paying exorbitant toll. Just the toll alone will already double your monthly transpo expenses.

    As much as I want to live in the south, the fact that so much of our economy is still north of the SLEX makes it a very expensive and time-consuming option.


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    actually, i blame our leaders on this.
    instead of encouraging moving out of manila,they have instead chosen to centrify the halls of power, commerce and leadership in metro manila.
    instead of building good roads to the suburbs and building honestly live-able housing projects outside manila, they build sub-human conditions around their re-settling areas.
    they have chosen to widen the metro's motorways, eating up into the sidewalks. then now, they encourage walking... walk where? on the street?

    our leaders may be good on things... but future-planning is not one of them..

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    OT: sa tagal tagal na nga ba bakit hindi pa konektado ang mga major places sa philippines ng mga inter-island bridges gaya ng san juanico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 170kphlang View Post
    OT: sa tagal tagal na nga ba bakit hindi pa konektado ang mga major places sa philippines ng mga inter-island bridges gaya ng san juanico?
    Dahil mahal? Ang kitid kitid lang ng San Juanico strait but look how expensive the bridge is.

    San Juanico bridge is 2.2km long. Matnog, Sorsogon to Allen, Samar is 28 km long.


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    Dapat ang gawin nilang batas ay pwedeng banggain ung mga nagji jay walking at ung mga sumasakay at bumababa sa gitna ng kalsada. And gumawa ng PUV and illegal vendors death squad. Un tipong bigla nalang bubulagta ung pedicab driver kasi tinira na kasi nag pipedicab siya sa EDSA or pumasok sa 1 way. Pag may gumawa ng ganyan, for sure aayos ang kalsada natin kasi matatakot na sila. Wala ng discipline mga tao ngayon, dapat kamay na bakal na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    Dapat ang gawin nilang batas ay pwedeng banggain ung mga nagji jay walking at ung mga sumasakay at bumababa sa gitna ng kalsada. And gumawa ng PUV and illegal vendors death squad. Un tipong bigla nalang bubulagta ung pedicab driver kasi tinira na kasi nag pipedicab siya sa EDSA or pumasok sa 1 way. Pag may gumawa ng ganyan, for sure aayos ang kalsada natin kasi matatakot na sila. Wala ng discipline mga tao ngayon, dapat kamay na bakal na.
    for humanity s' sake can you even hear yourself out loud?!
    proper quality education with leaders leading is the key not your genocide way of thinking- imagine if that happened to your kids who accidentally broke traffic rules and regulations when out with their classmates for a movie

    stop this stupidity

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    TS, as a concerned citizen, I'm begging you to not raise this idea to Ariel Inton of LTFRB or the geniuses from DENR as they might troll the nation again.

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