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    Indonesia to use gateless multi-lane toll system from next year; nationwide implementation in 2023 – report - paultan.org

    Indonesia will be implementing its gateless highway toll collection system by next year, beginning in Jawa and Bali, according to Indonesian news site Detik. Following its implementation in the two locations, the system has been planned for nationwide rollout in 2023, according to the news site.

    The uninterrupted-flow toll gantries use what is known as a mutli-lane free flow (MLFF) system, which is one of the methods aimed at at reducing traffic congestion. The system for Indonesia is provided by Hungarian company Roatex through local Indonesian firm PT Roatex Indonesia Toll System.

    There will no longer be physical gates or barriers, so it can be said that from the users’ perspective, these will be replaced with virtual gates, said chief business development officer at PT Roatex Indonesia Toll System, Emil Iskandar.



    With the removal of physical barriers for the entry into highways in mind, Emil added that the company is prepared for the eventuality of individuals who may attempt passage into highways without detection and therefore payment. To that end, there are two systems in place for prevention, said Emil.

    The first is a fixed gantry at each highway entry point, which will be equipped with surveillance modules including cameras that will identify every vehicle that passes through the entry into the highway. The second is a mobile control unit that enlists surveillance personnel, who, according to Emil, will carry out the same functions as those of the fixed gantries in collecting data on all vehicles entering the highway.

    Data for vehicles that have been registered, as well as those yet to be registered for entry into the MLFF-implemented highways will be collected, as there will be a possibility of the latter entering the highway without the required registrations, said Emil. The data collected on those vehicles not authorised to enter the MLFF highways will be channeled to the police for subsequent action, he added.



    Footage of free-flow gantries being tested in single-lane format emerged in March this year also in Indonesia, and the SLFF (single lane free flow) system was being trialled by highway operator PT Jasa Marga.

    Somewhat resembling the system currently used in Malaysia, the RFID stickers for the SLFF system in Indonesia are to be affixed to the vehicle’s headlamps in order to work with the sensors at the toll gantries. The headlamp location for the sticker is the preferred position is this is the least likely to interfere with RFID transmissions, according to a report at the time.

    A similar system has been in the works in Malaysia. A roll-out of the MLFF toll collection system was reported by Bernama in 2019, with its implementation slated to take place three years from that date.


    SMC Infrastructure and MPTC should also try this gateless multi-lane toll system. If TRB decides to phase out all cash lanes completely.

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    similar to Singapore's ERP which is an excellent idea to remove traffic congestion sa entrance and exit ng paid highways.

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    di pa nga nila naayos yung RFID nila eh.. baka bago nila matapos yun, obsolete na din yan gateless system na yan..

    Ang TRB natutulog sa pansitan.. walang silbi.. isa dapat enforce nila sa operators ng tollways is yung REALTIME system update na up to now may delay pa din..

    also dapat ensure nila na sa tollgates naka display yung AMOUNT deducted at remaining balance mo..

    dyan sa SLEX ilang beses na mali yung naka display na amount or walang amount na lumalabas. kaya ikaw na customer, di mo alam remaining balance pag exit mo.. manghuhula ka pa

    isa pa yan sa CAVITEX, napaka bagal ng RFID dyan.. tapos may lakas pa ng loob mag text na babawasan daw nila yung load mo kasi may entry na hindi na record ng system nila..

    dapat dyan parang sa pitsa hut.. if its late, its free.. hehe kung di ma read ng system nila within 10 secs, dapat free na toll mo... para mapilitan sila mag improve ng system..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    obsolete na din yan gateless system na yan..
    sa Singapore dati may proposal to use a GPS based toll system. pangit naman talaga kasi tignan yung ERP Gantry.

    kaya lang mas malaki ng malayo yung device na kailangan i-install sa car, kaya di natuloy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    di pa nga nila naayos yung RFID nila eh.. baka bago nila matapos yun, obsolete na din yan gateless system na yan..

    Ang TRB natutulog sa pansitan.. walang silbi.. isa dapat enforce nila sa operators ng tollways is yung REALTIME system update na up to now may delay pa din..

    also dapat ensure nila na sa tollgates naka display yung AMOUNT deducted at remaining balance mo..

    dyan sa SLEX ilang beses na mali yung naka display na amount or walang amount na lumalabas. kaya ikaw na customer, di mo alam remaining balance pag exit mo.. manghuhula ka pa

    isa pa yan sa CAVITEX, napaka bagal ng RFID dyan.. tapos may lakas pa ng loob mag text na babawasan daw nila yung load mo kasi may entry na hindi na record ng system nila..

    dapat dyan parang sa pitsa hut.. if its late, its free.. hehe kung di ma read ng system nila within 10 secs, dapat free na toll mo... para mapilitan sila mag improve ng system..
    Toll operators might just increase its sensitivity of their RFID readers to reduce a very long que just like in cash lanes.

    Gateless systems might have better sensetivity on vehicles passing through.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    similar to Singapore's ERP which is an excellent idea to remove traffic congestion sa entrance and exit ng paid highways.
    i haven't seen traffic congestion in slex rfid booths down to eton.
    dun lang sa cash lanes ang may pila...

    may pila ba sa dulo, sa silangan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Toll operators might just increase its sensitivity of their RFID readers to reduce a very long que just like in cash lanes.

    Gateless systems might have better sensetivity on vehicles passing through.



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    yung sa cavitex palpak talaga.. kasi kahit ibigay mo na yung card, naka 3 swipe na hindi pa din mabasa.. tapos mag raradyo yung tao nila to manually open the barrier then lilista nila yung card number mo..

    minsan it takes too long to "process" the tag.. naka lagay lang processing tag.. after mga 15 to 20 secs tsaka pa lang ma read yung tag

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i haven't seen traffic congestion in slex rfid booths down to eton.
    dun lang sa cash lanes ang may pila...

    may pila ba sa dulo, sa silangan?
    pag friday rush hour.. medyo siksikan na sa right side of calamba exit.. medyo bottle neck yung area na yun eh.. tapos pag may pila din sa toll gates mga 5 to 10 cars long.. basta walang sablay yung rfid mabilis naman..

    isa pa nagpapatagal yung pag may hindi ma read na tag, mag hahanap pa sa card nya yung driver.. yun ang nagpapatagal

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post

    isa pa nagpapatagal yung pag may hindi ma read na tag, mag hahanap pa sa card nya yung driver.. yun ang nagpapatagal
    i have such a card!
    ilang complaints nako,
    wala pang pagbabago.

    at isa pa!
    a number of booths do not display current load.
    it is not easy, remembering load status if one does not write it down pronto.

    rant.
    OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i haven't seen traffic congestion in slex rfid booths down to eton.
    dun lang sa cash lanes ang may pila...

    may pila ba sa dulo, sa silangan?
    sa everyday na byahe ko Skyway last March, traffic sa Sucat (? - sorry, not sure kung anong exit yun)

    IMO, even yung entry ng SS3 from Araneta Ave on a weekend, medyo mabagal.

    Indonesia and Malaysia naman, may barriers may pila pa din ang cars. Ako lang ata sumusunod sa speed limit ng Indo/MY kaya nakaka-inis yung mga pila nila sa toll gate

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