Quick question regarding Deed of Sale of Motor Vehicle

[miked]

San ba dapat ipanotaryo ang deed of sale, i mean e, sa place ng vendor or pwede rin sa place ng vendee?

for example, tiga probinsya ako at nakabili ng sasakyan sa metro manila, sa metro manila ba dapat or pwede na sa probinsya ko?

nung last time kasi na naibenta ko sasakyan ko e nagkataong same place kami ng buyer.

salamat.

[1D4LV]

pwede sa probinsya...
bottomline, notarization of a document validates the document for future references like filing of cases, etc....

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pwede sa probinsya...
bottomline, notarization of a document validates the document for future references like filing of cases, etc....

[jakewise]

correct me if I am wrong, pero if sa province ni buyer and notaryo, bake hindi ma transfer sa name niya sa LTO, am I correct? Kasi ang alam ko, hihingi si LTO ng copy ng Absolute Deed of Sale ng car

[willyfernando]

I think it should be notarized here in Metro Manila where the seller is from, unless hindi mahigpit and Notario mo and he can do it with special arrangements (non-appearance) pero alam ko bawal na rin ata yon eh. Sa transfer dito rin lahat gagawin eh kaya dapat isang lakaran nalang.

[miked]

I think it should be notarized here in Metro Manila where the seller is from, unless hindi mahigpit and Notario mo and he can do it with special arrangements (non-appearance) pero alam ko bawal na rin ata yon eh. Sa transfer dito rin lahat gagawin eh kaya dapat isang lakaran nalang.

noted sir willy regarding sa notaryo.....

pero dun sa transfer e as far as i know (ayon sa isang kaibigan na nagtransfer of ownership din kaso di ko na mahagilap), pupwede na dito samin sa probinsya. kukuha nga lang ng confirmation from the lto branch kung saan nakaregister yung vehicle before. plus the macro etching process sa hpg.

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I think it should be notarized here in Metro Manila where the seller is from, unless hindi mahigpit and Notario mo and he can do it with special arrangements (non-appearance) pero alam ko bawal na rin ata yon eh. Sa transfer dito rin lahat gagawin eh kaya dapat isang lakaran nalang.

noted sir willy regarding sa notaryo.....

pero dun sa transfer e as far as i know (ayon sa isang kaibigan na nagtransfer of ownership din kaso di ko na mahagilap), pupwede na dito samin sa probinsya. kukuha nga lang ng confirmation from the lto branch kung saan nakaregister yung vehicle before. plus the macro etching process sa hpg.

[dr. d]

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noted sir willy regarding sa notaryo.....

pero dun sa transfer e as far as i know (ayon sa isang kaibigan na nagtransfer of ownership din kaso di ko na mahagilap), pupwede na dito samin sa probinsya. kukuha nga lang ng confirmation from the lto branch kung saan nakaregister yung vehicle before. plus the macro etching process sa hpg.

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noted sir willy regarding sa notaryo.....

pero dun sa transfer e as far as i know (ayon sa isang kaibigan na nagtransfer of ownership din kaso di ko na mahagilap), pupwede na dito samin sa probinsya. kukuha nga lang ng confirmation from the lto branch kung saan nakaregister yung vehicle before. plus the macro etching process sa hpg.

what you are asking is...
if the vehicle was initially registered new, in metro manila, and you bought it and are now are now transfering its ownership to your name in, say, iloilo... what documents do you need?
if the CR is addressed in metro manila, and you are transfering ownership to your name in, say, iloilo... what do you need to do?

[RomeoAlpha]

I think it should be notarized here in Metro Manila where the seller is from, unless hindi mahigpit and Notario mo and he can do it with special arrangements (non-appearance) pero alam ko bawal na rin ata yon eh. Sa transfer dito rin lahat gagawin eh kaya dapat isang lakaran nalang.

I think it should be notarized here in Metro Manila where the seller is from

[miked]

correct me if I am wrong, pero if sa province ni buyer and notaryo, bake hindi ma transfer sa name niya sa LTO, am I correct? Kasi ang alam ko, hihingi si LTO ng copy ng Absolute Deed of Sale ng car

huh? parang malabo dating sakin bro.

hihingi talaga ang lto ng deed of sale para sa transfer of ownership.

you mean to say hindi matatransfer ang ownership kung hindi ipinanotaryo sa lugar kung saan naganap ang sale?

[threx666]

huh? parang malabo dating sakin bro.

hihingi talaga ang lto ng deed of sale para sa transfer of ownership.

you mean to say hindi matatransfer ang ownership kung hindi ipinanotaryo sa lugar kung saan naganap ang sale?

or maybe yung Vendee is entitled to his copy of the Notarized copy to protect his own side anything untoward after he sold his car,

baka nalito lang , since LTO will require a copy also of the Notarized copy for the transfer

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huh? parang malabo dating sakin bro.

hihingi talaga ang lto ng deed of sale para sa transfer of ownership.

you mean to say hindi matatransfer ang ownership kung hindi ipinanotaryo sa lugar kung saan naganap ang sale?

or maybe yung Vendee is entitled to his copy of the Notarized copy to protect his own side anything untoward after he sold his car,

baka nalito lang , since LTO will require a copy also of the Notarized copy for the transfer

[miked]

or maybe yung Vendee is entitled to his copy of the Notarized copy to protect his own side anything untoward after he sold his car,

baka nalito lang , since LTO will require a copy also of the Notarized copy for the transfer

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or maybe yung Vendee is entitled to his copy of the Notarized copy to protect his own side anything untoward after he sold his car,

baka nalito lang , since LTO will require a copy also of the Notarized copy for the transfer

siguro nga bro....anyway, madali na lang ayusin yang notaryo. ang primary na problem ko ngayon ay kung talagang "malinis" yung sasakyan.

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or maybe yung Vendee is entitled to his copy of the Notarized copy to protect his own side anything untoward after he sold his car,

baka nalito lang , since LTO will require a copy also of the Notarized copy for the transfer

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or maybe yung Vendee is entitled to his copy of the Notarized copy to protect his own side anything untoward after he sold his car,

baka nalito lang , since LTO will require a copy also of the Notarized copy for the transfer

siguro nga bro....anyway, madali na lang ayusin yang notaryo. ang primary na problem ko ngayon ay kung talagang "malinis" yung sasakyan.

[Juan Martinez]

San ba dapat ipanotaryo ang deed of sale, i mean e, sa place ng vendor or pwede rin sa place ng vendee?

for example, tiga probinsya ako at nakabili ng sasakyan sa metro manila, sa metro manila ba dapat or pwede na sa probinsya ko?

nung last time kasi na naibenta ko sasakyan ko e nagkataong same place kami ng buyer.

salamat.

deed of sale is a unilateral contact. And being a contract it needs Consent, Object, and Consideration. So long as these three requisites are present a contract is valid and enforceable. So, with or without notarization a deed of sale is binding between the parties (vendor and vendee). In other words, notarization does not affect the validity of the contract. However, to make the deed a public document (because a contract is private undertaking) you need to have it notarized before a notary public. Without notarization LTO will not accept it for registration for the simple reason that government agencies like the LTO or Registry of Deeds do not honor private documents. Now, the question is where shall the document be notarized? kung saan man si VENDOR. If you take a good look at a deed of sale, at the bottom portion, there is this ACKNOWLEDMENT, and it states something like- BEFORE ME THIS ___ AT ______ PERSONALLY APPEARED blah blah. Wherever the vendor is, in the Philippines or abroad (in this case he goes to the consul to have the deed notarized), that place where he can be found he must personally present himself to the Notary Public. the ACKNOWLEDMENT portion is where the Notary Public will affix his signature.
There is no need for the vendee to sign the document or to present himself to the Notary Public because as I said a contract of sale is unilateral contract (unilateral act of the vendor). I hope this helps.

[miked]

deed of sale is a unilateral contact. And being a contract it needs Consent, Object, and Consideration. So long as these three requisites are present a contract is valid and enforceable. So, with or without notarization a deed of sale is binding between the parties (vendor and vendee). In other words, notarization does not affect the validity of the contract. However, to make the deed a public document (because a contract is private undertaking) you need to have it notarized before a notary public. Without notarization LTO will not accept it for registration for the simple reason that government agencies like the LTO or Registry of Deeds do not honor private documents. Now, the question is where shall the document be notarized? kung saan man si VENDOR. If you take a good look at a deed of sale, at the bottom portion, there is this ACKNOWLEDMENT, and it states something like- BEFORE ME THIS ___ AT ______ PERSONALLY APPEARED blah blah. Wherever the vendor is, in the Philippines or abroad (in this case he goes to the consul to have the deed notarized), that place where he can be found he must personally present himself to the Notary Public. the ACKNOWLEDMENT portion is where the Notary Public will affix his signature.
There is no need for the vendee to sign the document or to present himself to the Notary Public because as I said a contract of sale is unilateral contract (unilateral act of the vendor). I hope this helps.

so in simple terms sir JM, e pwede na ipanotaryo ni vendor at to follow nako na pipirma. para pagdating ko sa address ni vendor e kaliwaan na lang kami. end of negotiations na. tama po ba?

[Juan Martinez]

so in simple terms sir JM, e pwede na ipanotaryo ni vendor at to follow nako na pipirma. para pagdating ko sa address ni vendor e kaliwaan na lang kami. end of negotiations na. tama po ba?

yes, puede na ni vendor ipanotaryo siya lang, but you need NOT sign the deed of sale so long as your name and your other personal circumstances (nationality, age, ***, marital status) are stated in the deed of sale as the vendee. I'll post a picture illustrate it clearly.

[Juan Martinez]

so in simple terms sir JM, e pwede na ipanotaryo ni vendor at to follow nako na pipirma. para pagdating ko sa address ni vendor e kaliwaan na lang kami. end of negotiations na. tama po ba?

Pag ganito, yes, puede kaliwaan na lang kayo

[Juan Martinez]

so in simple terms sir JM, e pwede na ipanotaryo ni vendor at to follow nako na pipirma. para pagdating ko sa address ni vendor e kaliwaan na lang kami. end of negotiations na. tama po ba?

pero kung ganito. pipirma ka dun as vendee in front sa notary public. you also affix your signature in his notarial book. dun sa pinaka- bottom ng deed of sale after the ACKNOWLEDMENT may ganito:
Doc No. ______
Page No. ______
Book No. ______
Series of 2015
nasa notarial book yan. that's the details of the deed.

[miked]

salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

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salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

[Juan Martinez]

salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

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salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

di kailangan. in fact, yan ang practice ng mga kaibigan natin na engage in buy and sell. dun nila ipa register sa "friendly" LTO district nila.
but you need to inquire the LTO district or office near you. the problem with most of our government agencies , although there is a uniform procedure, iba - ibang proceso sinusunod in different branches of the same government agency.

[threx666]

salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

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salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

pwede yan sa malapit na LTO office sa yo ,

first you have to make Request for Confirmation; kung saan e paparetrieve yung file ng car na nabili mo kung saan unang pinarehistro yan then pag dumating na yung file e kailangan mo na ngayon magpa macro etching sa TMG

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salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

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salamat sir JM on the info.

ot, regarding transfer of ownership: kelangan din ba na sa LTO agency kung saan nakarehistro (ex. marikina) yung sasakyan ang gagawa ng bagong CR under my name? di ba pwedeng sa LTO malapit dito samin sa probinsya?

pwede yan sa malapit na LTO office sa yo ,

first you have to make Request for Confirmation; kung saan e paparetrieve yung file ng car na nabili mo kung saan unang pinarehistro yan then pag dumating na yung file e kailangan mo na ngayon magpa macro etching sa TMG

[red_one]

San ba dapat ipanotaryo ang deed of sale, i mean e, sa place ng vendor or pwede rin sa place ng vendee?

for example, tiga probinsya ako at nakabili ng sasakyan sa metro manila, sa metro manila ba dapat or pwede na sa probinsya ko?

nung last time kasi na naibenta ko sasakyan ko e nagkataong same place kami ng buyer.

salamat.

In my case,

Seller/Owner is from Malabon. Vehicle is registered in LTO Manila.
Buyer (Me) is from Bataan.
Deed Of Sale was notarized in Makati City.

Also, we were not present when document was notarized but we (Buyer and Seller) had attached photocopy of valid IDs and signatures.

I renewed the registration and transferred ownership of vehicle in LTO Bataan. Wala naman naging problema sa Deed of Sale.

[Juan Martinez]

speaking of MACRO ETCHING. this is very important. to determine whether the chassis or engine number is not TAMPERED. it is the pnp crime laboratory who will conduct it. coordinated with HPG or Highway Patrol Group (TMG before) to issue MVCC (motor vehicle clearance certificate). that is what is called before. those who will buy 2nd hand cars from buy and sell, you better have it macro etched before paying. humility aside, you can ask me about this. MVCC I think is good for 6 months. I heard that they'll reinstate the ANCAR.