Bill gives citizens power to arrest drivers of smoke-belching vehicles

[cast_no_shadow]

How could a normal juan arrest a citizen whose vehicle emitts black smoke?
Eh pagnageemit ng black smoke ang sasakyan tumatakbo ang tsikot
paano papahintuin kung nasa likod ka , hahabulin mo at icucut? o
iintayin huminto o susundan mo?,Pano pag may pupuntahan ka
ikaw pa ang magdadala sa presinto, eh baka hindi pa nga huminto
pag pinara mo o apprehend

Bro thats what the 10k is for!
Matinding motivation factor haha


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[GTi]

This is absurd. Tama na sana eh pero hindi dapat citizen arrest ang gagawin. I believe a better plan would be taking clear pictures and/or videos depicting a certain vehicle or vehicles emitting black smoke with license plate clearly seen would suffice. These should be submitted to the LTO website and the vehicle would be fined upon next registration. Multiple offenses should lead to revocation of license plate and disqualification from reregistration due to non-roadworthiness.

People upload such incriminating evidence on Facebook all the time. It would be easy to put them to good use.

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[yebo]

paano mga modern diesel engines na may DPF, e pag nag-regenerate ang dpf e uusok talaga? what then, how does one prove (both owner and reporter) it is one way or the other, regenerating dpf or smoke belching engine?

meron nang law, it empowers the denr to set up check points where they can do on the spot checks. it also requires vehicle owners to have their vehicles pass an emission test before the vehicle can be registered. implementation lang ang kulang e. what we need are good administrators, not stoopid legislators.

[A121]

This is absurd. Tama na sana eh pero hindi dapat citizen arrest ang gagawin. I believe a better plan would be taking clear pictures and/or videos depicting a certain vehicle or vehicles emitting black smoke with license plate clearly seen would suffice. These should be submitted to the LTO website and the vehicle would be fined upon next registration. Multiple offenses should lead to revocation of license plate and disqualification from reregistration due to non-roadworthiness.

People upload such incriminating evidence on Facebook all the time. It would be easy to put them to good use.

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I disagree with you. I don't think pictures will help. In fact, I am not a fan of post the picture and make a totally big fuss about it in FB.

Follow the rules according to the law's implementing rules and regulations. Follow what's on paper para maliwanag.

[confused shoes]

Owws. Isa na namang lawmaker (daw) na di alam kung ano ang meron sa Pilipinas.
Trapik pulis nga sa Cavite minumura lang ng mga jeepney drayber. Ewan na lang kung yung mga tambay ang mang aaresto.

[sientobente]

I think we are missing the point that the law has an incentive:

"The bill provides a reward of P10,000 to the arresting individual for every legitimate apprehension of smoke belching vehicle. The Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) shall determine the legitimacy of such apprehension."

This does not mean we are the ones whose going to apprehend the violator, but with a P10,000 reward, I am sure someone will be motivated enough to do that. Isang huli lang, sweldo na ng minimum wage employee. Mukhang maganda business ito

[CVT]

I think we are missing the point that the law has an incentive:

"The bill provides a reward of P10,000 to the arresting individual for every legitimate apprehension of smoke belching vehicle. The Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) shall determine the legitimacy of such apprehension."

This does not mean we are the ones whose going to apprehend the violator, but with a P10,000 reward, I am sure someone will be motivated enough to do that. Isang huli lang, sweldo na ng minimum wage employee. Mukhang maganda business ito

Ipahuli mo sa isang maton at ikaw ang padrino...

50-50,- puwede na!...


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[joemarski]

. . . Mukhang maganda business ito

Eggxactly!!!

hanap ka lang ng pakner na puv driver.
konting drama para may video / ebidensiya.
bayad multa... then pagdating ng gabi, 50- 50 sa natira.
may pang boundary na, may pang hapi- hapi pa!!! :cheers2:

[jodski]

Sino gusto gumawa ng enterprise para dyan? May kakilala ba kayo puj driver :rofl:

Sana ang naisip na lang nila is apprehension na ang evidence is cctv camera sa daan. Kaya nga sila nagpapintura ng plate number sa puj sa bubong diba?

Dami pwede paraan yan pag apprehend based sa cctv.
1) magtayo ka ng checkpoint kahit kinabukasan mo na hulihin para wala naman masabi na may mawawalan ng work na enforcer and para damay na rin private owners sa paghuli

2) Padalhan mo operator ng warning letter na may automatic fine agad. Kapag hindi pinansin during registration ipataw ang fine with interest.

Dami pa pwede gawin na hindi na kailangan ng ganyan ayaw lang kasi gawin dahil may nakikinabang
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[boy astig]

MANILA - Two party-list representatives filed a bill that seeks to reward citizens who apprehend drivers or operators of smoke-belching vehicles.

A TEACHER party-list Reps. Mariano Piamonte, Jr. and Julieta Cortuna authored House Bill 4932, which seeks to tap the support of ordinary citizens in going after smoke belching vehicles.

"With too many laws bound to be implemented, it is easy for those concerned to say that it is hard for them to implement all laws effectively, and indeed it is," Piamonte said.

"You still can see smoke belching vehicles running around the streets of Metro Manila and elsewhere. These scenarios can breed some suspicion that authorities are lax in enforcing the law."

Under the bill, any individual who spots a vehicle on the road emitting black smoke is given the authority to apprehend its driver or operator.

The arresting individual shall bring the apprehended/arrested driver and vehicle to a nearby police station. The owner of the vehicle shall be booked for violation of the Clean Air Act.

The vehicle, meanwhile, shall be temporarily impounded.

The bill provides a reward of P10,000 to the arresting individual for every legitimate apprehension of smoke belching vehicle. The Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) shall determine the legitimacy of such apprehension.

The DENR shall provide the reward, free of tax, to the apprehending individual.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/11/22/14/bill-gives-citizens-power-arrest-drivers-smoke-belching-vehicles

Eh? Yeah, it gives additional rights to the citizenry... thing is, what about the implementation?

Lets say some well meaning, patriotic citizen pulls over your typical smoke screening bus. Tells the driver that he is making an arrest based on the law these two congressmen passed. Bus driver pulls out his steel pipe and whacks patriotic citizen in the head. Bus conductor gets screwdriver and repeatedly stabs patriotic citizen. Result? A screaming new headline. Another scenario, patriotic citizen who survived the bus driver and conductor, suddenly does the same to the DPWH dumptruck filled with workers on their way to wreck our roads in the name of reblocking. What do you think will happen next?

Lets all be realistic here. IS THIS EVEN DOABLE?

If the LTO was RELIGIOUSLY doing its job of EMISSION TESTING, there would be no need for these type of silly legistations (and ASBU units of LGUs too).

Just my 3 cents

[ess]

Lets say some well meaning, patriotic citizen pulls over your typical smoke screening bus. Tells the driver that he is making an arrest based on the law these two congressmen passed. Bus driver pulls out his steel pipe and whacks patriotic citizen in the head. Bus conductor gets screwdriver and repeatedly stabs patriotic citizen. Result? A screaming new headline. Another scenario, patriotic citizen who survived the bus driver and conductor, suddenly does the same to the DPWH dumptruck filled with workers on their way to wreck our roads in the name of reblocking. What do you think will happen next?

Here's what I think will happen:

The patriotic citizen stops the smoke belching bus and attempts to make an arrest.
The bus driver and conductor laughs.
Passengers in the bus whip out their cellphones and starts to take a video of the incident.

The patriotic citizen stands his/her ground and continues to try to make the arrest.
In the mean time, MMDA are just outside the bus doing nothing. Heck, maybe they're also shooting their own video.

An hour later, the video goes viral. The patriotic citizen suddenly games "bad" fame -- amalayer fame. Anti-poor. Nang-aapi ng bus driver na nagtratrabaho lang para pakainin ang pamilya.

[chua_riwap]

In the mean time, MMDA are just outside the bus doing nothing.
.

....... ignores everything & continue selling bibingka.

[threadstone]

http://www.investphilippines.info/ar...e-Belching.pdf


Saw this article on the internet and I think it's a nice read.

[Sleepcare]

Isa lang masasabi ko sa thread na to:

Kawawa naman kaming mga naka-Crosswind.

[crosswind]

Isa lang masasabi ko sa thread na to:

Kawawa naman kaming mga naka-Crosswind.

Kung alaga sa maintenance ang crosswind mo
hindi naman mageemitt ng black smoke haha

[Sleepcare]

Kung alaga sa maintenance ang crosswind mo
hindi naman mageemitt ng black smoke haha

Biruan lang naman yun sir. Alam naman nating mahilig kasing pag-tripan ang Crosswind kapag tungkol sa smoke belching ang usapan.

[confused shoes]

^^Pwede rin kayo na ring mag aresto sa sarili nyo.

[boy astig]

Isa lang masasabi ko sa thread na to:

Kawawa naman kaming mga naka-Crosswind.

Hindi naman sir !!! Hilander owner here. Proper maintenance, calibration and 2T lang ang katapat nyan.