Beep Card

[kagalingan]

Haaaay buhay. Basta ito ayala and pangilinan joint venture eh grabe kalakas sa gatasan.

Their company lagi involve very very poor service lalo na si ayala.

Year 2015 pala ito nagsimula panahon ni noynoy.

Gawin nyo na smartphone apps para wala na gastos physical card.

[LOLZ]

Haaaay buhay. Basta ito ayala and pangilinan joint venture eh grabe kalakas sa gatasan.

Their company lagi involve very very poor service lalo na si ayala.

Year 2015 pala ito nagsimula panahon ni noynoy.

Gawin nyo na smartphone apps para wala na gastos physical card.

Beep Rides is not from ayala i think but a new thing by the bus operators and has a less reasonable card issuance fee (80 pesos vs 50/(30 or 20 pesos pag lrt ang nagissue) for the old Beep(tm)) waving the card fee for either would be desired though since pandemic naman.Smartphone based tap payment probably can be done as well since nababasa ng phone ung beep card so most likely nfc based sya although kailangan nilang gumawa and mag support ng android/ios app.

[kisshmet]

Haaaay buhay. Basta ito ayala and pangilinan joint venture eh grabe kalakas sa gatasan.

Their company lagi involve very very poor service lalo na si ayala.

Year 2015 pala ito nagsimula panahon ni noynoy.

Gawin nyo na smartphone apps para wala na gastos physical card.

Not all celfons owned by the masa are NFC (near field communication) enabled

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[Lew_Alcindor]

Dami reklamo eh nung nagpunta kayo sa Japan ganyan din naman sistema pero enjoy kayong lahat.

Pero seriously, gobyerno ang may shortcoming dito. Expect ba nila na libre yang card na yan eh hindi naman yan mina-magic lang para ma-produce.

Kung gusto nila libre ibigay, i-subsidize nila o bayaran nila yung 80 per card for the people. Eh kung puro libre na lang ang hihingin sa private sector, paano sila mabubuhay.

Dito mo makikita yung kakulangan sa planning o baka kulang lang sila sa foresight.

[cast_no_shadow]

Dami reklamo eh nung nagpunta kayo sa Japan ganyan din naman sistema pero enjoy kayong lahat.

Pero seriously, gobyerno ang may shortcoming dito. Expect ba nila na libre yang card na yan eh hindi naman yan mina-magic lang para ma-produce.

Kung gusto nila libre ibigay, i-subsidize nila o bayaran nila yung 80 per card for the people. Eh kung puro libre na lang ang hihingin sa private sector, paano sila mabubuhay.

Dito mo makikita yung kakulangan sa planning o baka kulang lang sila sa foresight.

Those who do vacations abroad and purchase beep cards are not the same persons na umaangal for the mandatory beep cards here for their daily commutes.

Pero I agree kulang talaga sa planning, ora-orada ang decisions kaya sabog sa implementation.


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[shadow]

Subsidize nila hinde pwedeng puro libre.


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[dr. d]

sa HK,
octopus card is 150 HKD, of which 100 is for rides and purchases, and 50 is for the card itself that is refundable naman upon surrender.
and the "charge" lasts at least 2 years.
since we used to HK regularly, i do not bother refunding it. the cards still work when i go back the next year.
i don't have to make pila to that masungit na speak-chinese-only old lady manning the card purchase window at the airport.
heh heh.

is our beep card rechargeable?

[kisshmet]

The electronic chips cost money..the plastic that holds that chip cost money..the people that manufacture that card are paid wages..the shipment of those cards from manufacturer to end user cost money

When dutertes govt claim that they dont know it cost something and that cost will be passed on consumers is a BIG LIE coz 12% of that goes to the govt as Value Added Tax

To ride along peoples desire to freeload is the perfect way for the current admin to LOOK GOOD

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[kagalingan]

To LOLZ,

may sticker nakalagay ngayon.

"Bayanihan Card, Ayuda mula sa ayala at metro pacific"

[yapoy86]

sa HK,
octopus card is 150 HKD, of which 100 is for rides and purchases, and 50 is for the card itself that is refundable naman upon surrender.
and the "charge" lasts at least 2 years.
since we used to HK regularly, i do not bother refunding it. the cards still work when i go back the next year.
i don't have to make pila to that masungit na speak-chinese-only old lady manning the card purchase window at the airport.
heh heh.

is our beep card rechargeable?

sana ganun ginawa nila.. "refundable" para ingatan ng mga riders yung card.. problem is wala naman refund process para sa cards.. tapos yung beep card for MRT is different sa beep card for bus..

kung same cards sana mas ok kasi madami naman bumili ng MRT cards dati.. yun lang NLEX SLEX magkaiba pa ng card eh.. only shows na walang silbi regulators..

[LOLZ]

sa HK,
octopus card is 150 HKD, of which 100 is for rides and purchases, and 50 is for the card itself that is refundable naman upon surrender.
and the "charge" lasts at least 2 years.
since we used to HK regularly, i do not bother refunding it. the cards still work when i go back the next year.
i don't have to make pila to that masungit na speak-chinese-only old lady manning the card purchase window at the airport.
heh heh.

is our beep card rechargeable?

Not sure on the Bus only Beep Rides but the regular beep card have an expiry of two years with an option to renew for another year for 10 pesos. Card issuance and recharge in lrt/mrt could be done with either kiosks or the regular teller(if you want change for large bills).

To LOLZ,

may sticker nakalagay ngayon.

"Bayanihan Card, Ayuda mula sa ayala at metro pacific"

I think that's only for 100k cards but hopefully by then the gov't has already made arrangement to subsidize the fee to the more reasonable 20/30 pesos that they have been doing with LRT/MRT issued cards since nde naman fair na private lahat gagastos sa project ng gov't.

sana ganun ginawa nila.. "refundable" para ingatan ng mga riders yung card.. problem is wala naman refund process para sa cards.. tapos yung beep card for MRT is different sa beep card for bus..

kung same cards sana mas ok kasi madami naman bumili ng MRT cards dati.. yun lang NLEX SLEX magkaiba pa ng card eh.. only shows na walang silbi regulators..

ung Beep ng LRT gamit na ng ilang P2P buses sa edsa before covid pero dahil walang nirequire na specific na payment system na gamitin ang gov't gumawa ng bago ung ibang operators(beep rides).

[17Sphynx17]

I wasn't really much into the loop about this pero nung nakita ko sa news, I was honestly surprised na may Beep Card and meron pa Beeprides. Napa WTF na lang ako.

Dapat nung simula pa lang sinabi na nila na papayag sila kung iisa lang ang gagamitin, which is beepcard for the "other' buses and PUVs. For "our" convenience tapos hindi nila limit to a specific method na "centralized" or iisa lang. Defeating the purpose.

Yung 80php card fee plus load, I sort of understand. May nagsabi na dito about the production cost of the card itself. Ang di ko alam is wala ata itong "card refund fee" like other countries.

The model already exists everywhere else. Hindi man lang kaya gayahin yung guidelines ng government when "regulating" this when it was being hard implemented na due to COVID?

Nung sinabi nila na "FREE" kaagad ito as a reflex dahil sa complaints, part of me already thought mali din ito. But if bibigyan na lang nila ng incentives yung BEEP CARD company mismo to pay them back, I guess it works out in that way between BEEP and government for this part when they start implementing the "FREE" release of how many cards there will be that are FREE. But that doesn't help those that paid for it prior though.

I honestly had hopes for Tugade's management pero he is becoming more and more "reactionary" than visionary. To only "appease" now than stand ground because, as it looks like, there was little to no planning prior to implementation by the concerned agencies. Ika nga, walang usapan sa stakeholders, the company and the consumers/commuters in this case at all even from the beginning.

On the part of the company, malabo nga naman pumalag sila ngayon na nagdeclare government na free dapat yan and "make it free".

Hindi nga dapat gawin gatasan yung public, pero di din naman dapat ginagatasan ng government ang private company din.

I get the intention but still, they had all of 6 months to prepare their plans since kanya kanya sila departments with their focuses on what part of the industries here they cover... pero wala e, on this specific part.

Same goes for what we see with Autosweep and Easytrip FORCED implementation when we all know na hindi nga maayos yung scanners with the RFIDs. Ewan ko lang kung yung new "series" ni Easytrip will be better but that goes the same for this. Medyo sure ako iaatras nila yung deadline and move it next year dahil sa hindi pa din lahat may sticker to remove cashless completely, or dahil limited stocks yung stickers, or sasabihin government to "avoid crowding" we are extending the deadline. Nasa utak ko na maririnig natin ito come november 2020.