Another transport strike set on Sept. 25-26

[17Sphynx17]

so.
who among us are going to loan them a milling bucks so's they can buy their new-generation jeep, collateral-free?

I was thinking about this and I wondered...

The jeep they currently have has little to no value other than scrap metal kgs for recycling/resmelting. But they currently, supposedly, have something on hand that is of value, the franchise of the jeep they hold in their hand, if they were legit operators.

What I don't quite understand is why the government doesn't put a buy back peso value on the franchise itself to compensate the franchise operator who may choose to a)upgrade or b)stop being a jeep operator altogether.

Also, instead of working with individual operators, why doesn't it work with jeepney groups as a cooperative/collective to be the transport "company" for the modern jeep/minibus so they can really regulate and go after heads of those groups instead of "unknowns".

The new franchise, they can opt to waive the renewal/upgrade franchise fee for the first five years as part of the modernization package to acquire the new jeeps/minibus. Them, after the loan term of the new keep, they can then have them finally pay the renewal fee for the next succeeding years?

I believe the above allows the government to rationalize routes altogether. IF Route A should only have 10 jeeps, then the organization will be responsible to man those routes to only have 10 jeeps, any additional jeep plying that route will mean they have violated their agreement and they will be penalized. (this is just an example). You can now also start implementing fixed pickup times for stops and no more random drop off points.

[KingoftheNorth]

I was thinking about this and I wondered...

The jeep they currently have has little to no value other than scrap metal kgs for recycling/resmelting. But they currently, supposedly, have something on hand that is of value, the franchise of the jeep they hold in their hand, if they were legit operators.

What I don't quite understand is why the government doesn't put a buy back peso value on the franchise itself to compensate the franchise operator who may choose to a)upgrade or b)stop being a jeep operator altogether.

Also, instead of working with individual operators, why doesn't it work with jeepney groups as a cooperative/collective to be the transport "company" for the modern jeep/minibus so they can really regulate and go after heads of those groups instead of "unknowns".

The new franchise, they can opt to waive the renewal/upgrade franchise fee for the first five years as part of the modernization package to acquire the new jeeps/minibus. Them, after the loan term of the new keep, they can then have them finally pay the renewal fee for the next succeeding years?

I believe the above allows the government to rationalize routes altogether. IF Route A should only have 10 jeeps, then the organization will be responsible to man those routes to only have 10 jeeps, any additional jeep plying that route will mean they have violated their agreement and they will be penalized. (this is just an example). You can now also start implementing fixed pickup times for stops and no more random drop off points.

From what I know, the "franchise" to operate a PUV (whether bus, jeep, taxi, etc.) is a mere privilege that can be REVOKED AT ANYTIME by government. You can't sell it, assign it to someone else or lease it without getting the prior approval of the agency which granted it so you cannot consider it strictly as "property" because it connotes something which you can exercise absolute rights as an owner of.

Yung transport coops talaga is the way to go for modernization together with rationalization of the transport routes.

[17Sphynx17]

From what I know, the "franchise" to operate a PUV (whether bus, jeep, taxi, etc.) is a mere privilege that can be REVOKED AT ANYTIME by government. You can't sell it, assign it to someone else or lease it without getting the prior approval of the agency which granted it so you cannot consider it strictly as "property" because it connotes something which you can exercise absolute rights as an owner of.

Yung transport coops talaga is the way to go for modernization together with rationalization of the transport routes.

Ah, what i was thinking for buyback is because they also spent on the franchise 'rights' as an operator. Sothe government can place a fixed value on it, but limit the purchase between current registered operator and government only.

Between operators, no sale is allowed. Selling your franchise to another party would be tantamount to getting an auto revocation, since the franchise was assigned specifically to the person or entity.

This will also cleanse the system as i recall some operators that ply the road only bought their franchise from another via and 'internal agreement' but that in itself is illegal or should be illegal because the franchise is non transferrable.

Just my thought on the matter.

But, with the coop being the company specifically awarded to ply the route, i really think that will better professionalize the operations and make it easier to chase after who is responsible and liable for any issues along said route.

[Little Missy]

so.
who among us are going to loan them a milling bucks so's they can buy their new-generation jeep, collateral-free?

I read somewhere that the govt will give a loan through Landbank. So the 1 million something jeepney that they can barely afford will now be nearing 2 million because of interest.

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[dr. d]

Nag announce pala ng coding suspension MMDA for PUVS... Pucha naman nagiisip ba mga yan? Wala na nga sila sa daan dahil strike eh. Bakit hinde private ang i-lift nila suspension?


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i thought they lifted the coding scheme today for all vehicles...?
i swear i read it somewhere earlier, but i can't seem to remember where...

addendum:
PU vehicles nga. ayon kay ted faylon.
so the question begs, "why only PU?"

[Egan101]

i thought they lifted the coding scheme today for all vehicles...?
i swear i read it somewhere earlier, but i can't seem to remember where...

Only for public utility vehicles


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[shadow]

i thought they lifted the coding scheme today for all vehicles...?
i swear i read it somewhere earlier, but i can't seem to remember where...

Only for PUVs, ang galing talaga


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[falken]

Nag announce pala ng coding suspension MMDA for PUVS... Pucha naman nagiisip ba mga yan? Wala na nga sila sa daan dahil strike eh. Bakit hinde private ang i-lift nila suspension?


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Dapat lifted for all. Some Puvs might not be joining the strike.

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[Little Missy]

Pinapayagan nga ang China na gahasain ang natural resources natin, I doubt that this admin has the environment in mind diyan sa modernization na yan. The skeptic and anti duterte in me thinks may makikinabang diyan.

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[Little Missy]

Okay naman yung modernization. Sana lang mas may way para hindi mawalan ng kabuhayan ang marami. Alam naman natin mas marami mahirap sa bansa. Kasi para kanino yung progress, para lang sa mga may kaya? Wala na ngang traffic, wala nang pangit na jeep, pero ang dami namang gutom. Hindi dahil tamad sila, tinatanggalan sila ng opportunity (take for example magsasaka).

Tapos yung mayayamang negosyante, mga politiko payaman ng payaman.


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[Verbl Kint]

I haven't seen anything realistic coming from the government to help jeepney drivers and operators survive the planned "modernization". And truth be told, the only thing that will be modernized is the vehicle, the old routes, franchises, and the stop-anywhere system isn't actually in the cards.

I know a few jeepney drivers, they really subsist on nothing more than their daily take. Kaya nga may karatula na "Barya lang po sa umaga" kasi wala talagang naiiwan para panukli kinabukasan.

And if the rumors are true, the ones who stand to gain the most from this push to "modernize" would be cronies from the Davao bloc. Eh kung ganon din lang, mas gugustuhin ko pang makakita ng jeepney sa kalsada kesa yumaman mga kampon ni Duterte.

[victorevolution]

I haven't seen anything realistic coming from the government to help jeepney drivers and operators survive the planned "modernization". And truth be told, the only thing that will be modernized is the vehicle, the old routes, franchises, and the stop-anywhere system isn't actually in the cards.

I know a few jeepney drivers, they really subsist on nothing more than their daily take. Kaya nga may karatula na "Barya lang po sa umaga" kasi wala talagang naiiwan para panukli kinabukasan.

And if the rumors are true, the ones who stand to gain the most from this push to "modernize" would be cronies from the Davao bloc. Eh kung ganon din lang, mas gugustuhin ko pang makakita ng jeepney sa kalsada kesa yumaman mga kampon ni Duterte.

davao bloc, ayala, lopez or sino pa man mayaman. mas gugustuhin ko na sila mag ayos kaysa mga kupalero na piston.

any problem with that eh di sali ka sa npa.

modernization, parang kalesa lang yan, ayaw mo magbago eh di mamatay ka sa huli.

true malayo pa autonomous public transpo, pero its a start.

parangppv first gen lang yan, crosswind, tamaraw fx, asan na nga ulit sila, di mo na makita sa kalye.

screw the uv and old jeepney.

[minicarph]

Kung ako senyo mag business na kayo kesa naguusap dito

Madami na daw nagtatayo ng motorcycle and van training school sa mga outskirts ng Manila, yun tipong may mga cones and tracks, to supply the accredited drivers na gagamiten sa modernization

It’s in play na as we speak. Lots of conio are investing in these schools hihi

[Little Missy]

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[Little Missy]

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[minicarph]

fyi lang para sa mga hinde makaintinde: PUV Modernization | LTFRB

On 19 June 2017, the Department of Transportation issued Department Order No. 2017-011 (Re: Omnibus Guidelines on the Planning and Identification of Public Road Transportation Services and Franchise Issuance) or the Public Utility Vehicle Modernization Program (PUVMP), a flagship program of the Duterte administration which envisions a restructured, modern, well-managed and environmentally sustainable transport sector where drivers and operators have stable, sufficient and dignified livelihoods while commuters get to their destinations quickly, safely and comfortably.
The PUVMP is not merely a vehicle modernization program. It is a comprehensive system reform that will entirely change the public land transportation industry. It features a regulatory reform and sets new guidelines for the issuance of franchise for road based public transport services. It devolved the function of route planning to the local government units as they are more versed in the terrain and passenger demand within their respective territorial jurisdiction. The LGUs are required under the program to submit their own Local Public Transport Plan (LPTRP) as a pre-requisite for the opening of PUV franchises within their jurisdiction. Route rationalization studies will also be conducted to determine the appropriate mode, quantity and service characteristics of the public transport service in each corridor which will make the routes more responsive to passenger demand and ensure that the hierarchy of roads and modes of transportation are followed.

“IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM REFORM THAT WILL ENTIRELY CHANGE THE PUBLIC LAND TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY.”
Among the major components of the PUVMP is fleet modernization. New vehicle standards are being developed which is based on extensive consultations with involved government agencies, jeepney associations and local and international manufacturers. The modern PUV are designed to be environment-friendly, safe, secure and convenient with due consideration to our Persons-with-Disabilities (PWDs) passengers. The PUVMP also encourages industry consolidation or the strategic merging of smaller transport industry players to form into a consortium either by forming cooperatives or corporations. The PUVMP likewise adopts a Vehicle Useful Life Program which consists of policies and programs that deal with different stages of the vehicle’s useful life. This includes the provision of a Motor Vehicle Type Approval System for new vehicles, maintenance programs and improvement of Motor Vehicle Inspection System and a Scrappage Program for end-of-life vehicles.

In order to soften the impact and assist small operators who will be affected by the PUVMP, a special loan program with Landbank and DBP is being proposed which will provide access to operators and drivers to adequate funding. Stakeholders will also have access to various trainings and social support programs which will be offered to enable them to be competent, self-sufficient and well-equipped with the necessary technical knowledge and skills.

The DOTr, LTFRB, LTO and OTC, as well as the other concerned agencies will conduct a Pilot Implementation in order to review and assess whether the new policies are responsive and efficient in achieving the program’s intended outcomes. The success of the program will revolutionize road-based public land transportation and will usher in an improved riding experience for the benefit of our present and future generations of Filipino passengers.

[Little Missy]

Tapos na kami pag usapan yan huli ka na

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[sparc179]

Tapos na kami pag usapan yan huli ka na

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Savage ni LM ngayon ah, hope you've had your morning drink already madame.

Has there been any updates, did the government give any concessions or replied to any demands made by the protesters?

Wala atang balita? Just curious.

[dr. d]

so, was monday's puj strike a success?
aside from inconveniencing the commuting public, what else did the recent puj strike result in?
for heartless me, 'twas less traffic on the road...

[KingoftheNorth]

Savage ni LM ngayon ah, hope you've had your morning drink already madame.

Has there been any updates, did the government give any concessions or replied to any demands made by the protesters?

Wala atang balita? Just curious.

According to interviews given by Martin Delgra.....WALA.

so, was monday's puj strike a success?
aside from inconveniencing the commuting public, what else did the recent puj strike result in?

Honestly, I don't think the PUJ operators are "all in". Transport strike pero mayamaya lang pumapasada na ulit. And no I don't think they will win any concessions.