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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman
    so if youre after with totota's D4d then better buy nalang innova or Hilux. the same lang ba yung price hilux 4x4 sa Fortuner 4x2 D4d?
    I went for my end-user-based parameters: Im not an off-roader; need a 7-seater for the wife, the restless kids, and kid's stuff; need on a daily drive basis (translated to fuel economy); latest diesel engine technology, decent engine power, ride height, looks (of course!), INTIMIDATION FACTOR (which the Fortuner delivers), price, and satisfaction. Apparently, it was all ticked on the YES box.

    Not sure about the price compa though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patron
    I went for my end-user-based parameters: Im not an off-roader; need a 7-seater for the wife, the restless kids, and kid's stuff; need on a daily drive basis (translated to fuel economy); latest diesel engine technology, decent engine power, ride height, looks (of course!), INTIMIDATION FACTOR (which the Fortuner delivers), price, and satisfaction. Apparently, it was all ticked on the YES box.

    Not sure about the price compa though.
    Congrats on your new ride!!! Another Fortunate owner of the most awaited vehicle.

    I would just like to commend you on your so called "end-user based parameter". Very well categorized. For me these are also the main reasons why I prefer and patiently waiting for it.

    By the way which dealer you got ur unit from and what kind of deals you got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram 001
    Congrats on your new ride!!! Another Fortunate owner of the most awaited vehicle.

    I would just like to commend you on your so called "end-user based parameter". Very well categorized. For me these are also the main reasons why I prefer and patiently waiting for it.

    By the way which dealer you got ur unit from and what kind of deals you got?
    Thanks a lot for the commendation At the end of a working day, it all boils down to these parameters. Got it from TQA (huwag maingay) IHF/IHI nga lang, but the deal's sweet and it's worth it.

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    *bry...we couldn't wait anymore after so many "colorful" experiences with the dealers so we opted to get the 2.5 D4D unit instead. Also, we wanted to beat the price increase and the e-vat and since the opportunity to get the unit was already in front of us, we got it immediately.

    The 2.5 D4D being underpowered seems very subjective...subjective to one's normal driving habit. If you're the go go type of driver then i think you'd be better off with the 3.0 for more low end pull or the 2.7 VVTi. My father and I have been continually learning the art of economical driving so the 2.5 D4D was a wise choice for us instead of waiting again for the gas model. There are 6 of us in the family and pulling power is pretty good with all of us in it. Hindi matulin pero hindi bitin...it's a good balance actually. Acceleration to around 60-70 kph is good though we haven't ventured towards the triple digit mark. We're still learning from the vehicle since this was a big adjustment for us. Ride was a little bouncy but tolerable. Idling sound is typical of a diesel engine but conversations inside the car are still audible probably due to very good sound insulation in the firewall, engine bay, and the interiors. 1st and 2nd rows are roomy and i've found out that the 3rd row is quite inhabitable...way much better than my sister's CR-V. Controls were within reach and operability was ok. It was easy to familiarize ourselves with the controls since they have large buttons. Forward visibility was excellent though we really have to adjust with the height. I think the design needs no further explanation. All in all we're very happy with the Fortuner...in fact, it's first night in our garage was spent with me sleeping inside it. As to maintenance, we've learned that as long as you keep the vehicle in check at hindi mapapabayaan then, maintenance will be very much be competitive with the gas variant. We've had 2 diesel powered vehicles before and experienced no major problems. Travelling at 50-60 in EDSA with low engine revolutions yielded 8.1 to 8.6 km/l (a very good rating i must say)

    So sorry for the lengthy post but now i understand why the Fortuner had this great hype. Guys patience lang din!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo
    *bry...we couldn't wait anymore after so many "colorful" experiences with the dealers so we opted to get the 2.5 D4D unit instead. Also, we wanted to beat the price increase and the e-vat and since the opportunity to get the unit was already in front of us, we got it immediately.
    Good and practical decision. You may also call it a blessing in disguise for getting the 2.5; very, very economical. Economy was my prime factor in choosing the 2.5 because I drive everyday; imagine a mileage of 76T km in 2 years for my altis. I also own an altis 1.6VVTi which is very economical; so, I thought that the 2.7 would nearly double my fuel consumption kahit na VVTi ito, coming from a 1.6. I find the price of the 3.0 high (I can buy 2 vehicles with its price) plus I really do not need a 4x4. As proven with my first test, it almost equals the fuel consumption of my altis. Congratulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by attynorby
    Good and practical decision. You may also call it a blessing in disguise for getting the 2.5; very, very economical. Economy was my prime factor in choosing the 2.5 because I drive everyday; imagine a mileage of 76T km in 2 years for my altis. I also own an altis 1.6VVTi which is very economical; so, I thought that the 2.7 would nearly double my fuel consumption kahit na VVTi ito, coming from a 1.6. I find the price of the 3.0 high (I can buy 2 vehicles with its price) plus I really do not need a 4x4. As proven with my first test, it almost equals the fuel consumption of my altis. Congratulations!
    also for practical reasons as to why i'm in line for the 4x2 d4d. pareho tayo attynorby. i drive a lot, mostly along the southern part of the ssh. also, i believe the term "underpowered" depends on your driving needs. if you're the kind of person who always wants to be the "first" when the traffic light turns green or always overtaking left and right along the highway then the 4x2 d4d is not for you. for my needs, dinaman ako mahilig makipagkarera at hindi ako off-roader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs
    also for practical reasons as to why i'm in line for the 4x2 d4d. pareho tayo attynorby. i drive a lot, mostly along the southern part of the ssh. also, i believe the term "underpowered" depends on your driving needs. if you're the kind of person who always wants to be the "first" when the traffic light turns green or always overtaking left and right along the highway then the 4x2 d4d is not for you. for my needs, dinaman ako mahilig makipagkarera at hindi ako off-roader.
    a trip to tagaytay & baguio will reveal what underpowered really means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    a trip to tagaytay & baguio will reveal what underpowered really means.
    my unit is 2.5D , I went to baguio 5 times already via naguillian road , my last trip on board is 5 adults (medium built) + 1 child, walang problema sa akyatan, kayang kaya, nasa D palagi pa yun gear

    toyota hi-ace engine is 2.5D4D din, eh 15 person seating capacity, d2 cguro mahihirapan sa akyatan

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    a trip to tagaytay & baguio will reveal what underpowered really means.
    underpowered nga siya siguro when overtaking sa tagaytay and baguio, i don't know. ok pa rin sa akin kasi i don't frequent baguio (last trip ko dun was 1987) and sa tagaytay, say 6x/year.
    anyway, if i get my 4x2 d4d, punta kami baguio para masubukan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo
    *bry...we couldn't wait anymore after so many "colorful" experiences with the dealers so we opted to get the 2.5 D4D unit instead. Also, we wanted to beat the price increase and the e-vat and since the opportunity to get the unit was already in front of us, we got it immediately...........
    So sorry for the lengthy post but now i understand why the Fortuner had this great hype. Guys patience lang din!
    *allenjo,.. WELL SAID and JUSTIFIED. I guess all the lucky Fortuner owners are as satisfied (based on real-world use) as you.
    Tsikoteers, I move to nominate allenjo for the "Monthly Fortuner Owners Club Review" e-version.

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    You dont need 160hp if the traffic is crawling, 102hp is powerful enough for 10kph to 15 kph traffic.
    Fortuner 3.0V - 0 to 100 kph - 13.4 secs
    Fortuner 2.7G - 0 to 100 kph - 9.68 secs
    Fortuner 2.5G - 0 to 100 kph - ??? (maybe same with innova 2.5)

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    #12
    got this Fortuner info. from another forum . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by NNNNNNNN

    I was at Toyota in Saudi this morning to bring my toyota car for a 15T kms. PM, I was a little bit surprised in their showroom because there are couple of Saudi guys wrapped around in one car which is I can say is rare here. I found out that the Toyota Fortuner is now out in Saudi Market starting Oct. 1 at yon pala ang pinagkakaguluhan nila. Tapos bigla rin silang nag-alisan isa-isa nong makasakay na at ma-feel na yong interior. Take note that the forturner here is made in Thailand and the price for the V6 engine, gasoline variant is a whooping SAR 104,000 cash price which is equivalent to PHP 1,560,000 at the present rate (no diesel variant is avalailable here so far). Medyo na-curios din ako kasi nga in the first place toyota forturner ang first choice ko. So I asked some of the Saudi's how they find the fortuner, they told me that it is so crampy inside and not comfortable for their family. Ang ginawa ko pumasok din ako sa fortuner, umupo, feel the inside, in fairnerss to fortuner owners, talagang crampy ang 2nd & 3rd row seats nya given the fact na maliit na tao lang ako. Pero talagang maganda ang interior look at saka interior nya, class ang dating . . . . .
    A Fortuner with a 4.0 li. V-6 VVTi petrol engine for P1.56M hmmm . . . . this is in the price range of the 3.0 D-4D already. Mura naman kasi fuel sa middle east so engine displacement isn't an issue with them. No gas-guzzlers tax there. So if you put this price into perspective, di ba mahal ang Fortuner dito sa atin?
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger
    got this Fortuner info. from another forum . . .

    A Fortuner with a 4.0 li. V-6 VVTi petrol engine for P1.56M hmmm . . . . this is in the price range of the 3.0 D-4D already. Mura naman kasi fuel sa middle east so engine displacement isn't an issue with them. No gas-guzzlers tax there. So if you put this price into perspective, di ba mahal ang Fortuner dito sa atin?
    .

    Would u believe, sa Dubai (UAE) 2 months na ang pila sa Fortuner 4.0l V6 Gas? Just got the info today.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Clean
    You dont need 160hp if the traffic is crawling, 102hp is powerful enough for 10kph to 15 kph traffic.
    Fortuner 3.0V - 0 to 100 kph - 13.4 secs
    Fortuner 2.7G - 0 to 100 kph - 9.68 secs
    Fortuner 2.5G - 0 to 100 kph - ??? (maybe same with innova 2.5)
    from C! Magazine?

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    guys,

    san makakabili ng takip sa front wheel tire nya kc ung putik napasok sa bumper.
    thanks

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    *katsudon...i asked the same thing to the Toyota agent and asked why i didn't have this...they gave no logical explanation for it. It's similar to the CR-V front suspension case kung saan may holes in the wheel wells but nonetheless they had explanations leading to suspension design...but for the fortuner wala silang maisagot.

    I think Thailand already has a cover for this but not yet introduced here in the Phils. I told myself that this makes for a good DIY project. Pag-aaralan ko pa muna

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo
    *katsudon...i asked the same thing to the Toyota agent and asked why i didn't have this...they gave no logical explanation for it. It's similar to the CR-V front suspension case kung saan may holes in the wheel wells but nonetheless they had explanations leading to suspension design...but for the fortuner wala silang maisagot.

    I think Thailand already has a cover for this but not yet introduced here in the Phils. I told myself that this makes for a good DIY project. Pag-aaralan ko pa muna
    Bad trip naman yun. lagi pa naman maputik dinadaanan ko. since got the unit 2weeks ago been going from manila to province for 2 trips which already has rougly 2,000 KM in odometer.

    already service the 1st 1,000 at casa but somobra ako since the total km for the 1st 1,000 is 1,400 heheh..

    Well pwede cguro ung cripsol for DIY.

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    *attynorby...true it was a blessing having to beat all the price related hoopla of the fortuner. We didn't regret getting the unit! I think the perception of being underpowered is relative to how one drives in a day to day scenario. Based on my actual driving experience, the power of the 2.5 Diesel engine is adequate for City driving and your occasional spirited highway sprint. All in all it was a great buy...after the 5 month wait, we can sleep soundly now! I assume you also got the 2.5 D4D unit as well? I'm looking into the possibility of making my own wheel well splash cover on the front passenger side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo
    I assume you also got the 2.5 D4D unit as well? I'm looking into the possibility of making my own wheel well splash cover on the front passenger side.
    Yes, I really sought for the 2.5. Order na rin ako ng wheel well sa iyo, hehe! Seriously, post kapag nagawa mo na. Easy driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenjo
    *attynorby...true it was a blessing having to beat all the price related hoopla of the fortuner. We didn't regret getting the unit! I think the perception of being underpowered is relative to how one drives in a day to day scenario. Based on my actual driving experience, the power of the 2.5 Diesel engine is adequate for City driving and your occasional spirited highway sprint. All in all it was a great buy...after the 5 month wait, we can sleep soundly now! I assume you also got the 2.5 D4D unit as well? I'm looking into the possibility of making my own wheel well splash cover on the front passenger side.
    *attynorby... WE SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT. 'NUFF SAID.
    kindly update me whatever u can come up with the wheel well splash cover.

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