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    Count me in as well;

    E2E - 3.0 V D4-D, Dark Grey Mica Metallic.

    Thanks.

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    Wow, it's been a while! abnormal kasi yung naging DSL provider ko, ayaw gumana ng Tsikot. Ngayon naka-PLDT myDSL na ko, and everything seems to be working fine again

    May question lang ako, although let me know if nasagot na to before in this forum:

    Aside from [P]ark, [R]everse, [D]rive, Para san ba talaga yung 3,2,1 dun sa kambyo? Is it for going uphill, downhill, slippery roads, or what?

    I also haven't tried the 4wd stick shift, when do I need to use it? Going uphill?

    Sensya na, d ko pa po talaga alam ang mga yan -_-' After all, we're here to learn!

    Thanks everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurosaki_ichigo
    Wow, it's been a while! abnormal kasi yung naging DSL provider ko, ayaw gumana ng Tsikot. Ngayon naka-PLDT myDSL na ko, and everything seems to be working fine again

    May question lang ako, although let me know if nasagot na to before in this forum:

    Aside from [P]ark, [R]everse, [D]rive, Para san ba talaga yung 3,2,1 dun sa kambyo? Is it for going uphill, downhill, slippery roads, or what?

    I also haven't tried the 4wd stick shift, when do I need to use it? Going uphill?

    Sensya na, d ko pa po talaga alam ang mga yan -_-' After all, we're here to learn!

    Thanks everyone!
    [L] is the first gear, used mostly for going up steep uphills, utilizing engine braking for continous downhills (to prevent overheating the brakes), and off-road purposes (used in conjunction with the transfer case setting - [LL] ). The [3-D] is the setting or gear used for normal driving. Use this when driving on normal conditions. As for the [2], it is used for purposes somewhere between those intended for the [L] or [3-D] settings.
    Last edited by number001; March 22nd, 2006 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    [L] is the first gear, used mostly for going up steep uphills, utilizing engine braking for continous downhills (to prevent overheating the brakes), and off-road purposes (used in conjunction with the transfer case setting - [LL] ). The [3-D] is the setting or gear used for normal driving. Use this when driving on normal conditions. As for the [2], it is used for purposes somewhere between those intended for the [L] or [3-D] settings.
    I see, cool, thanks But what exactly is the difference between engine braking and the normal braking? I used to think there was only one kind

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurosaki_ichigo
    I see, cool, thanks But what exactly is the difference between engine braking and the normal braking? I used to think there was only one kind
    Normal braking makes use of your vehicle's disc or drum brakes. When going down from Baguio, constant use of the brakes will wear out your brake shoes earlier than usual.

    As I understand it, engine braking makes use of the higher torque of your engine's lower gears to slow down the vehicle. Using engine braking during downhill drives will relieve your brake shoes from over use. Of course, you still have to use normal braking... Have you noticed how going downhill on your 2nd gear tends to make your engine hum louder and slow the vehicle down? That is engine braking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicoyski
    Normal braking makes use of your vehicle's disc or drum brakes. When going down from Baguio, constant use of the brakes will wear out your brake shoes earlier than usual.

    As I understand it, engine braking makes use of the higher torque of your engine's lower gears to slow down the vehicle. Using engine braking during downhill drives will relieve your brake shoes from over use. Of course, you still have to use normal braking... Have you noticed how going downhill on your 2nd gear tends to make your engine hum louder and slow the vehicle down? That is engine braking...
    I see, cool, thanks! But I think I have to read up on this more in order to grasp the whole idea. I'm not really planning to go to Baguio but I was just really curious and I wanted to be ready when the need arises.

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    Hello there, my Mom drives a 2.5G D4-D in Grayish Brown Metallic. I guess I'm an owner by inheritance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    [L] is the first gear, used mostly for going up steep uphills, utilizing engine braking for continous downhills (to prevent overheating the brakes)
    Bakit sabi sa kabilang forum eto:

    "For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission. "
    any comment?

    Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by conix
    Bakit sabi sa kabilang forum eto:

    "For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission. "
    any comment?

    Thanks...
    Thats true. Mas mura ang brake pads. Ang point naman ng engine braking is to help your brakes from overworking and also overheating. Brakes will fail or loose its effectivity when the pads and disc/drum gets overheated. Thats is for safety reasons, not money. Mas mahal ang buhay natin kesa transmission di ba?

    And besides, hindi naman makakasira ng transmission ang engine braking eh. A/T trannies have its own internal brake to prevent overloading the gears when enginebraking. The tranny brake activates when it is needed via sensors or when you put your gear in "P".

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    Quote Originally Posted by shockz
    Thats true. Mas mura ang brake pads. Ang point naman ng engine braking is to help your brakes from overworking and also overheating. Brakes will fail or loose its effectivity when the pads and disc/drum gets overheated. Thats is for safety reasons, not money. Mas mahal ang buhay natin kesa transmission di ba?

    And besides, hindi naman makakasira ng transmission ang engine braking eh. A/T trannies have its own internal brake to prevent overloading the gears when enginebraking. The tranny brake activates when it is needed via sensors or when you put your gear in "P".
    Ok, good point...

    ciao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by conix
    Bakit sabi sa kabilang forum eto:

    "For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission. "
    any comment?

    Thanks...
    I remember that the above comment was not about engine braking. It was made in the context of just stepping on the brakes and leaving the A/T gear in D rather than shifting to N when stopped at an intersection. Constant shifting from D to N and vice versa might cause damage daw to the transmission solenoids, or something...

    When going down Baguio, should your brake pads fail (due to over-use going downhill) - you could fall off a cliff... Now, should your transmission fail during engine braking (which is most unlikely) - your gear should lock-up and your vehicle will literally grind to a halt. However, for the latter, you may very well live to have the damage fixed...
    Last edited by vicoyski; March 25th, 2006 at 11:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicoyski
    I remember that the above comment was not about engine braking. It was made in the context of just stepping on the brakes and leaving the A/T gear in D rather than shifting to N when stopped at an intersection. Constant shifting from D to N and vice versa might cause damage daw to the transmission solenoids, or something...

    When going down Baguio, should your brake pads fail (due to over-use going downhill) - you could fall off a cliff... Now, should your transmission fail during engine braking (which is most unlikely) - your gear should lock-up and your vehicle will literally grind to a halt. However, for the latter, you may very well live to have the damage fixed...
    actually, i've got that comment from AI and the question is:

    Quote from: on February 21, 2006, 08:32:07 am
    "which is better for the enginge and fuel consumption? lately ive been enginge braking instead of normal braking. is this good for the engine? will it damage something? i drive an A/T..
    Answer:
    For an Automatic, it's cheaper to replace your brake pads than your transmission."


    well for one wala naman syang nabanggit na downhill kaya siguro yun ang sagot nya...

    and here is the link:

    http://www.autoindustriya.com/yabbse...=21084;start=0

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    Forunter owners, meron pa kong question. Kasi I'm used to driving our old CRV this way, and now my Fortuner 3.0 D4D:

    While driving relatively fast, I see the red stoplight or I need to stop, I put the stick to [N]eutral, and then just let go of the accelerator and just use the momentum take me forward; gamit na lang ng brakes in case I need to stop. I do this with my Fortuner, but is this ok? I mean will it damage the car in any way? (Freewheeling ba tawag dito, I forgot...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurosaki_ichigo
    Forunter owners, meron pa kong question. Kasi I'm used to driving our old CRV this way, and now my Fortuner 3.0 D4D:

    While driving relatively fast, I see the red stoplight or I need to stop, I put the stick to [N]eutral, and then just let go of the accelerator and just use the momentum take me forward; gamit na lang ng brakes in case I need to stop. I do this with my Fortuner, but is this ok? I mean will it damage the car in any way? (Freewheeling ba tawag dito, I forgot...)
    Freewheeling wont cause any damage to your engine but will wear out your brakes. This is also unsafe and not advisable. If you get into a situation where you need power to avoid an accident, then it will take you a second or so to react as you need to shift back into gear. The very minimal fuel savings you get by freewheeling is negligible against any risk plus wearing out your brakes prematurely will cost you more in the end. Engine braking is still the best practice for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurosaki_ichigo
    Forunter owners, meron pa kong question. Kasi I'm used to driving our old CRV this way, and now my Fortuner 3.0 D4D:

    While driving relatively fast, I see the red stoplight or I need to stop, I put the stick to [N]eutral, and then just let go of the accelerator and just use the momentum take me forward; gamit na lang ng brakes in case I need to stop. I do this with my Fortuner, but is this ok? I mean will it damage the car in any way? (Freewheeling ba tawag dito, I forgot...)
    I do this with my CRV (manual transmission), in a way. But, never when I'm about to stop. I do it only during long highway drives. I speed-up to 100kph, set the gear to neutral and wait for the speedometer to read 80kph before accelerating up to 100kph again. It helps improve consumption.

    But, you don't need to do this with your Fortuner, if your purpose is to improve fuel consumption. Leaving the A/T shift at D and stepping-off the gas (coasting), you will notice that the tachometer will drop to 1000rpm, whatever speed you're at. It's about the same rpm if you leave the stick at neutral. Just step on the gas when you feel that you're already going too slow. Coasting this way will help improve your consumption.
    Last edited by vicoyski; March 22nd, 2006 at 11:05 PM.

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    Thanks to everyone who sent replies regarding freewheeling I'll try to remember your tips, kaya lang mahirap na tanggalin pag naging habit na talaga...pero I'll definitely try ;)

    Walang sumagot nung mga tanung ko regarding sa automatic transmission gears na [3][2][1] ah, kaya post ko ulit!

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    You may overtax your breaks, better use the engine break by not putting it in "N", at least you don't have to push your brake pedal harder.

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    nabasa ko yung sa net na bad daw sa engine yung nuetral while running. damage daw yung piston or something

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    Updated owner's list - Mar 22, 2006

    1.summer75 - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    2. Monseratto - 3.0V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    3. andre - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    4. trader - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    5. vicoyski - 3.0V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    6. lara - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    7. jackaroo - 3.0V D4-D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    8. hyperev - 3.0V D4-D, Black Mica
    9. spiff41398 - 3.0V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    10. Forza – 3.0V D4-D, Super White II
    11. jad - 3.0V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    12. fortfan - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    13. greenlight - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    14. fortuner13 - 2.5G D4-D, Black Mica
    15. toadstool - 3.0V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    16. JunDC – 3.0V D4-D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    17. retinasurgeon - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    18. allenjo - 2.5G D4-D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    19. patron - 2.5G D4-D, Black Mica
    20. magikels - 2.7G VVTi Black Mica
    21. Pilgrim - 3.0V D4-D, Black Mica
    22. Kurosaki Ichigo - 3.0V D4-D, Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    23. attynorby - 2.5G D4-D, Silver Metallic
    24. big_jo - 2.5G D4-D, Silver Metallic
    25. seanjedi - 3.0V D4-D, Black Mica
    26. kent - 2.5G D4-D Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    27. liliputman - 3.0V D4-D, Brown Metallic
    28. Ram_001 - 2.5G D4-D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    29. tocloy – 2.5G D4-D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    30. bilog - 2.7G VVTi, Super White II
    31. beebs-2.7G VVTi, Super White II
    32. mechanixx-3.0V D4-D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    33. Shockz - 3.0V V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    34. IWC-3.0V D4-D, Super White II
    35. Conix - 2.7G VVTi, Super White II
    36. herbularyo - 2.5G D4-D, Black Mica
    37. letranboy- 2.7G VVTi, Greyish Brown Metallic
    38. SPEEDYG77 - 2.7G VVTi, Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    39. konde - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    40. franci_rod - 2.5G D4-D, Silver Metallic
    41. katsudon_ph - 3.0 V D4-D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    42. Rexxxs - 2.5G D4-D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    43. mbclubph - 2.5G D4-D, Black Mica
    44. LIM 88 - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    45. monpogi - 2.7G VVTi, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    46. KST - 3.0V D4-D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    47. bigbrother - 2.7G VVTi, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    48. Batman 007 - 2.5G D4-D, Black Mica
    49. Chen - 3.0V D4-D, Silver Metallic
    50. Chrisrhob - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    51. E2E - 3.0 V D4-D, Dark Grey Mica Metallic

    Future Fortuner Owners (tsikoteers):

    1. Bry – 2.5G White
    2. bigbrother - 2.7G Dark Gray
    3. hector angel - 2.7G Black or White
    4. Vmax - 3.0V Dark Gray
    5. Onestab - 3.0V Black
    6. 4wrider - 2.7G Dark Gray Metallic or Brown Metallic
    7. kmo - 2.7G Silver or Dark Gray
    8. wilcats - 2.7G Black or Dark Gray

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    hello!

    i saw a stainless steel billet grille for fortuner this afternoon. meron na ba nagpa install sa inyo? how much po? yung horizontal yung design ng grille tapos its just a bolt-on. sobrang mahal dito sa gensan, 10k tapos d pa kasali yung sa ibaba na front grille.

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