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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Edit: It seems this post should have been posted at the dealership woes thread. Sorry

    BTW, Toyota Makati and Bicutan are honest dealers of course since they are owned by Toyota. They will never demand any add-ons from you. Depending on the agent, some may ask for a downpayment for you to be placed in the "list"(yeah right what list?) and some wont require any down to include you in it. The downside, your reservation will take months and months, if not a year to process. The sales agents there wont be calling you for months on end, with any sort of updates or news at all. It is in your interest to keep on pestering them daily and let them know you are still alive.

    On the other hand, if you go to the other dealers, the only recourse to get a unit is by accepting-or more like swallowing-their preposterous offer to you of lots of accessories or add-ons (tv,dvd,leather seats,gsm alarm,etc),insurance, and financing+chattel mortgage, which can all inflate the sticker price by Php250,000+. No that's not a joke or exaggeration. A dealer just quoted me that two days ago. All I can say is -go to hell-.
    Last edited by number001; February 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 PM.

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    *katsudon/ rexxxs; Congrats and enjoy your new rides! Dont forget to visit http://fortunerclub.10.forumer.com/v...8573dd6ca2ae2c

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    #3
    1.summer75 - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    2. Monseratto - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    3. andre - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    4. trader - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    5. vicoyski - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    6. lara - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    7. jackaroo - 3.0V D4D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    8. hyperev - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    9. spiff41398 - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    10. Forza – 3.0V D4D, Super White II
    11. jad - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    12. fortfan - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    13. greenlight - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    14. fortuner13 - 2.5G D4D, Black Mica
    15. toadstool - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    16. JunDC – 3.0V D4D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    17. retinasurgeon - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    18. allenjo - 2.5G D4D, Dark Gray
    19. patron - 2.5G D4D, Black Mica
    20. magikels - 2.7 vvti Extreme Black
    21. Pilgrim - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    22. Kurosaki Ichigo - 3.0V D4D, Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    23. attynorby - 2.5G D4D, Silver Metallic
    24. big_jo - 2.5G D4D, Silver Metallic
    25. seanjedi - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    26. kent - 2.5G D4D , dark gray
    27. liliputman - 3.0V D4D, Brown Metallic
    28. Ram_001 - 2.5G D4D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    29. tocloy – 2.5 G D4D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    30. bilog - 2.7 G vvti super white
    31. beebs-2.7 G vvti super white
    32. mechanixx-3.0 metallic brown (how come lagi ako wala!)hehe
    33. Shockz - 3.0 V D4D, Silver Metallic (ako din nawala sa listahan eh)
    34. IWC-3.0V D4D, Super White
    35. Conix - 2.7G Super White
    36. herbularyo - 2.5G D4D Black Mica
    37. letranboy- 2.7 vvti Greyish Brown
    38. SPEEDYG77 - 2.7G vvti Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    39. konde - 2.7 vvti extreme black
    40. franci_rod - 2.5G D4D Silver Metallic (nilipat ko lang sarili ko from Future owners)
    41. katsudon_ph -3.0 diesel Dark Gray
    42. Rexxxs - 2.5 D4D Gray Mica
    43. mbclubph - 2.5 Black Mica
    44. LIM 88 - 2.7 vvti silver metallic
    45. ? next
    Future Fortuner Owners (tsikoteers):

    1. Bry – 2.5G White
    2. bigbrother - 2.7G Dark Gray
    3. hector angel - 2.7G Black or White
    4. Vmax - 3.0V Dark Gray
    5. Onestab - 3.0V Black
    6. 4wrider - 2.7G Dark Gray Metallic or Brown Metallic
    7. kmo - 2.7G Silver or Dark Gray
    8. wilcats - 2.7G Black or Dark Gray

    note: baka naman nag add kayo dito wla naman
    kayong fortuner ah. dont Lie

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    #4
    at last i will be included in the list on an almost 9 month wait, my ride will be release next week my agent just called me. just finalizing some papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by letranboy
    1.summer75 - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    2. Monseratto - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    3. andre - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    4. trader - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    5. vicoyski - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    6. lara - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    7. jackaroo - 3.0V D4D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    8. hyperev - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    9. spiff41398 - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    10. Forza – 3.0V D4D, Super White II
    11. jad - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    12. fortfan - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    13. greenlight - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    14. fortuner13 - 2.5G D4D, Black Mica
    15. toadstool - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    16. JunDC – 3.0V D4D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    17. retinasurgeon - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    18. allenjo - 2.5G D4D, Dark Gray
    19. patron - 2.5G D4D, Black Mica
    20. magikels - 2.7 vvti Extreme Black
    21. Pilgrim - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    22. Kurosaki Ichigo - 3.0V D4D, Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    23. attynorby - 2.5G D4D, Silver Metallic
    24. big_jo - 2.5G D4D, Silver Metallic
    25. seanjedi - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    26. kent - 2.5G D4D , dark gray
    27. liliputman - 3.0V D4D, Brown Metallic
    28. Ram_001 - 2.5G D4D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    29. tocloy – 2.5 G D4D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    30. bilog - 2.7 G vvti super white
    31. beebs-2.7 G vvti super white
    32. mechanixx-3.0 metallic brown (how come lagi ako wala!)hehe
    33. Shockz - 3.0 V D4D, Silver Metallic (ako din nawala sa listahan eh)
    34. IWC-3.0V D4D, Super White
    35. Conix - 2.7G Super White
    36. herbularyo - 2.5G D4D Black Mica
    37. letranboy- 2.7 vvti Greyish Brown
    38. SPEEDYG77 - 2.7G vvti Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    39. konde - 2.7 vvti extreme black
    40. franci_rod - 2.5G D4D Silver Metallic (nilipat ko lang sarili ko from Future owners)
    41. katsudon_ph -3.0 diesel Dark Gray
    42. Rexxxs - 2.5 D4D Gray Mica
    43. mbclubph - 2.5 Black Mica
    44. LIM 88 - 2.7 vvti silver metallic
    45. ? next
    Future Fortuner Owners (tsikoteers):

    1. Bry – 2.5G White
    2. bigbrother - 2.7G Dark Gray
    3. hector angel - 2.7G Black or White
    4. Vmax - 3.0V Dark Gray
    5. Onestab - 3.0V Black
    6. 4wrider - 2.7G Dark Gray Metallic or Brown Metallic
    7. kmo - 2.7G Silver or Dark Gray
    8. wilcats - 2.7G Black or Dark Gray

    note: baka naman nag add kayo dito wla naman
    kayong fortuner ah. dont Lie

    Can you include me in the list?
    batman 007 - 2.5G D4D Black Mica
    I got mine Oct.3, 2005

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    ako rin nex week na, 2.7 gas dark grey last january 25 ko pina reserve

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    #7
    Right choice beakris and bigbrother! Not the D4D ( Diesel engine waiting 4 dissection ) Angkop ba ang term(dissection) sa ooperahan hehehe.

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    The 3.0 D4-D does not have the bad reputation (underpowered and the "problem") of the 2.5 D4-D. Its too bad Toyota did not release a 3.0 D4-D in 4x2 form. The 3.0 D4-D 4x4 just cost way too much to justify the cost,otherwise I would have gone for it. Btw, the difference is about Php 305,000 when compared to the 2.7 vvti.

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    #9
    Don't get confused about technical issues (D4D) and personal issues (financial capability, choice of vehicle, no. of vehicles owned, etc). It is most prudent and sensible not to extrapolate your anti-D4D sentiments into other people's personal matters and taste. If you have grievances against the D4D, channel it appropriately, and not get personal and just step into other people's toes. Just a reminder.
    Last edited by patron; February 25th, 2006 at 05:00 PM.

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    Guys, anyone with a 2.7 vvti 4x2 unit? Can you pls comment on the vehicle's power in terms of acceleration and esp. on incline with a full load of passengers or cargo. Pls pls I need your valuable inputs before making a decision.

    People with 4x4 units are also most welcome to comment on their unit's performance esp. the engine given the abovementioned parametes.


    Thanks in Advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    Guys, anyone with a 2.7 vvti 4x2 unit? Can you pls comment on the vehicle's power in terms of acceleration and esp. on incline with a full load of passengers or cargo. Pls pls I need your valuable inputs before making a decision.

    People with 4x4 units are also most welcome to comment on their unit's performance esp. the engine given the abovementioned parametes.


    Thanks in Advance.
    Hi number001! It seems you are bent on making a well informed decision... Good for you!

    My officemate has a 2.7G. In terms of power, it's almost the same as a 3.0V. The difference in their HP ratings is nearly negligible. But, the 2.7G, of course, has a lighter curbweight. One thing I like about the 2.7G is that it's a lot quieter. What would you expect from a petrol engine?

    We haven't really compared the performance of our vehicle in terms of steep inclines. But, based on the figures, the 2.7G will be revving high in order to achieve the torque needed to overcome steep inclines. The 3.0V being a diesel workhorse will achieve high torque at a lower RPM. So, at steep inclines, the 3.0V will have some advantage (especially on a slippery incline, since it's 4x4).

    If you don't really need 4x4, the 2.7G (VVTi) is the best value for money there is...
    Last edited by vicoyski; February 26th, 2006 at 07:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    Guys, anyone with a 2.7 vvti 4x2 unit? Can you pls comment on the vehicle's power in terms of acceleration and esp. on incline with a full load of passengers or cargo. Pls pls I need your valuable inputs before making a decision.

    People with 4x4 units are also most welcome to comment on their unit's performance esp. the engine given the abovementioned parametes.


    Thanks in Advance.
    Hi, i'm using an V variance, i came from an 03 trooper.

    take off wise, the trooper gave a more powerful response, say 10-20%. but the trooper doesnt have a top end or whatever you call it. after 140 kph it becomes slower to accelerate, but with the Fortuner, 4 kame sa car, easy un 170 kph at skyway (2 AM).

    the same with uphill, the Trooper has more edge. but maybe it's because the fortuner is 4x4 & the Trooper is 4x2? by the way, i change the tires for both my unit from 265/70/16 to 275/70/16 AT. with the trooper it did not have any loss in take off but w the Fortuner, the loss is obvious.

    i'm also curious with the 2.7 VVTi 4x2 Fortuner as it almost has similar HP but with a lower Torque. i was thinking maybe it being a 4x2 might compensate from lack of load.

    Btw, pls give your opinion on the shocks of old man.

    Thanks

    KST

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    1.summer75 - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    2. Monseratto - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    3. andre - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    4. trader - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    5. vicoyski - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    6. lara - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    7. jackaroo - 3.0V D4D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    8. hyperev - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    9. spiff41398 - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    10. Forza – 3.0V D4D, Super White II
    11. jad - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    12. fortfan - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    13. greenlight - 2.7G VVTi, Silver Metallic
    14. fortuner13 - 2.5G D4D, Black Mica
    15. toadstool - 3.0V D4D, Silver Metallic
    16. JunDC – 3.0V D4D, Dark Gray Mica Metallic
    17. retinasurgeon - 2.7G VVTi, Black Mica
    18. allenjo - 2.5G D4D, Dark Gray
    19. patron - 2.5G D4D, Black Mica
    20. magikels - 2.7 vvti Extreme Black
    21. Pilgrim - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    22. Kurosaki Ichigo - 3.0V D4D, Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    23. attynorby - 2.5G D4D, Silver Metallic
    24. big_jo - 2.5G D4D, Silver Metallic
    25. seanjedi - 3.0V D4D, Black Mica
    26. kent - 2.5G D4D , dark gray
    27. liliputman - 3.0V D4D, Brown Metallic
    28. Ram_001 - 2.5G D4D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    29. tocloy – 2.5 G D4D, Grayish Brown Metallic
    30. bilog - 2.7 G vvti super white
    31. beebs-2.7 G vvti super white
    32. mechanixx-3.0 metallic brown (how come lagi ako wala!)hehe
    33. Shockz - 3.0 V D4D, Silver Metallic (ako din nawala sa listahan eh)
    34. IWC-3.0V D4D, Super White
    35. Conix - 2.7G Super White
    36. herbularyo - 2.5G D4D Black Mica
    37. letranboy- 2.7 vvti Greyish Brown
    38. SPEEDYG77 - 2.7G vvti Dark Grey Mica Metallic
    39. konde - 2.7 vvti extreme black
    40. franci_rod - 2.5G D4D Silver Metallic (nilipat ko lang sarili ko from Future owners)
    41. katsudon_ph -3.0 diesel Dark Gray
    42. Rexxxs - 2.5 D4D Gray Mica
    43. mbclubph - 2.5 Black Mica
    44. LIM 88 - 2.7 vvti silver metallic
    45. monpogi - 2.7G VVTi Dark Gray Mica Metallic

    Future Fortuner Owners (tsikoteers):

    1. Bry – 2.5G White
    2. bigbrother - 2.7G Dark Gray
    3. hector angel - 2.7G Black or White
    4. Vmax - 3.0V Dark Gray
    5. Onestab - 3.0V Black
    6. 4wrider - 2.7G Dark Gray Metallic or Brown Metallic
    7. kmo - 2.7G Silver or Dark Gray
    8. wilcats - 2.7G Black or Dark Gray

    Sama na po ako dito mga kuya. I got mine last friday from Toyota Ortigas habang nagkakagulo ang mga tao sa EDSA.

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    #14
    So if you have nothing good to say about the Fortuner... get out of this thread!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelparadigm
    So if you have nothing good to say about the Fortuner... get out of this thread!?
    'Di naman... It's good if we find-out what's wrong with our rides. It's quite helpful if we share the problems that we find. It'll help others prevent the same occurrence on their rides. But, it's better to post comments in such a way that it will indeed be helpful to the readers.

    Posting something negative for the purpose of trashing someone's choice is, however, unacceptable.

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    *Vicoyski, Fortuner V yong iyo diba? Nakagamit ka na ba ng VVTi? Compare to D4d 3.0 malaki ba ang agwat nila sa hatak and top speed? Im asking this coz my bayaw bibili daw sya ng VVTi sabi ko kasi talo ka sa performance may 3yrs warranty naman sugalan mo nalang, kung matapat na sirain yong unit mo benta nalang nya sakin he he he.
    Price dif. kasi nila sa tingin ko sulit sa D4d 3.0 kasi 4wd at mas malakas diba?

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by larshell
    *Vicoyski, Fortuner V yong iyo diba? Nakagamit ka na ba ng VVTi? Compare to D4d 3.0 malaki ba ang agwat nila sa hatak and top speed? Im asking this coz my bayaw bibili daw sya ng VVTi sabi ko kasi talo ka sa performance may 3yrs warranty naman sugalan mo nalang, kung matapat na sirain yong unit mo benta nalang nya sakin he he he.
    Price dif. kasi nila sa tingin ko sulit sa D4d 3.0 kasi 4wd at mas malakas diba?
    'Di naman nagkakalayo ang power ng 2.7G & 3.0V. The 2.7G is a very good choice, from a practical point of view. Also, pwede mo kagad ihataw ang 2.7G from a coldstart. The 3.0V still needs some time to get its temp up to optimum operation.

    But, if you've got the money to spend and you feel the need to have a 4x4 tranny (when I say need, it may be for actual use or psychological fulfillment), the 3.0V might suit you better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicoyski
    'Di naman nagkakalayo ang power ng 2.7G & 3.0V. The 2.7G is a very good choice, from a practical point of view. Also, pwede mo kagad ihataw ang 2.7G from a coldstart. The 3.0V still needs some time to get its temp up to optimum operation.

    But, if you've got the money to spend and you feel the need to have a 4x4 tranny (when I say need, it may be for actual use or psychological fulfillment), the 3.0V might suit you better.
    bosing vicoyski, matanong ko lang, nung nagpare-paint ka ng gasgas mo sa kasa, did you leave your car? or did you got it the same day? Tanong ko lang, plano ko kc pa-re paint yung nagasgas sa akin tomorrow eh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magikels
    bosing vicoyski, matanong ko lang, nung nagpare-paint ka ng gasgas mo sa kasa, did you leave your car? or did you got it the same day? Tanong ko lang, plano ko kc pa-re paint yung nagasgas sa akin tomorrow eh!!
    I left my unit on a Friday and got it on a Monday. It stayed at Toyota Bicutan for the weekend. I guess, in your case, the length of stay at the service dealer will also depend on how many and which specific panels need to get painted.
    Last edited by vicoyski; February 27th, 2006 at 09:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicoyski
    I left my unit on a Friday and got it on a Monday. It stayed at Toyota Bicutan for weekend. I guess, in your case, the length of stay at the service dealer will also depend on how many and which specific panels need to get painted.

    Thanks for the reply bossing!!!

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