Vios 1.3 M/T faster than Mazda 3 2.0R!

[Starex_Gold]

Holy Sh!t

Less than 10 seconds?

Jesus Christ anong modifications ng Vios mo?

[ghosthunter]

Sub-10 seconds? Bull. I've been doing acceleration testing for the past 5 years... and that claim just makes me laugh.

I've driven various ZZ-powered Toyotas. I've tested various methods of launching. And there's no way of getting below 10 seconds on a stock 1.3.

A stock 1.3 is within the 12-13 second range if you drive it right. The slow 20-80 time is because he wasn't "launching", meaning he had to slog through the entire first gear. To get anywhere under 12 seconds, you have to launch at a catastrophic 5000+ rpms on the tachometer and slip the clutch brutally to keep the engine spinning through first gear and up into the powerband right away.

Maybe someone flat-shifting through the transmission will get near 11... on a cool day with a fresh engine and a stripped interior. Someone who doesn't care about grinding the transmission to dust. But under 10 seconds? Whoever claims that can set an appointment with us at Speedlab for V-Box testing. Hell... let's put money on the table on the results... shall we?

Hey! Do I hear a bet for a stock Vios 1.3E (factory equipped as-is) to do sub 10 seconds 0-100kph?

My money is on Niky. (niky! you're treating us for pizza)

When do we test? (not that we haven't done enough in the past)....

[ghosthunter]

Holy Sh!t

Less than 10 seconds?

Jesus Christ anong modifications ng Vios mo?

Easy lang yan.... downhill yung track, parang yung flyover sa edsa/ortigas, towards greenhills. hehehe

[ghosthunter]

Holy Sh!t

Less than 10 seconds?

Jesus Christ anong modifications ng Vios mo?

Easy lang yan.... downhill yung track, parang yung flyover sa edsa/ortigas, towards greenhills. hehehe

[ghosthunter]

Review: Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation) - Pinoy Auto Blog
my vios 1.3E can do also less than 10 seconds ;)

From your link...

The E variant comes with a 1300 cc VVT-i engine, which provides just 85 horses under the hood. This is hardly racetrack material, but if you consider the power-to-weight ratio, you would be amazed at what the car can do. The 1.3 variant Vios has been known to reach 190 Kph at clear NLEX, SCTEX and SLEX stretches. I haven’t personally tried this, but I can say I can personally attest to the less-than-10 seconds zero to 100 acceleration.

There was no instrumented test done by the article's author to support his claim of sub-10 secs on the 0-100kph.

A standard Vios 1.3E can't launch properly to get sub-10 figures.

[jhnkvn]

Let's do some simple math:

Mazda3 2.0L 147 hp * 6500RPM 1365kg curb weight = 0.048848 power to weight ratio
Vios 1.3L 85hp * 6000RPM 1075kg curb weight = 0.035865 power to weight ratio

Sino ba bumobola sayo na masmaganda power to weight ratio ng Vios? You're also looking at the 2004 Mz3 that won TONS of awards for its chassis balance.. hell, sa sobrang ganda sa 2011 US Mz3 rides on the same chassis -- "Why fix if it isn't broke". Normal suspension is stiff versus the more accomodating Vios.. and it has a bigger brother called the MazdaSpeed3 while the Vios only has the TRD version. Am I missing something?

[Chikselog]

Di kaya sya yung nasa isang youtube video na nag 200 na vios, pero downhill naman kaya nag 200?

"Bilis ng Vios ko!!":bwahaha:
:peace:

[Starex_Gold]

Hey! Do I hear a bet for a stock Vios 1.3E (factory equipped as-is) to do sub 10 seconds 0-100kph?

My money is on Niky. (niky! you're treating us for pizza)

When do we test? (not that we haven't done enough in the past)....

Magkano pusta mo, GH?

[Slyfox168]

easy lang guys . that blog is not mine ;) --- Review: Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation) - Pinoy Auto Blog

i also experience it with my vios 1.3e. modification i change my stock air filter to knn

maniwala man kayo o hindi ok lang sa akin yon dahil nag sang ayon lang ako sa writer ng blog.

hindi po ako yon sa you tube he he he

I mentioned doing about 8 seconds 20kph-80kph with the mazda 3 2.0... I did about 15 seconds on the vios! hehe It takes forever.

hindi lang ako maniwala dito sa 15 sec.

[Battlestar]

Okay lang yan slyfox. At least you admittedly naman na hinde sa'yo ang blog. Dito kase sa tsikot pag nagkamali ka lang, expect some gang up. Okay lang sana kung isa, kaso madame sumasawsaw :-)

[foresterx]

i think the correct question would be which is less slow.j/k

Sub-10 seconds? Bull. I've been doing acceleration testing for the past 5 years... and that claim just makes me laugh.

I've driven various ZZ-powered Toyotas. I've tested various methods of launching. And there's no way of getting below 10 seconds on a stock 1.3.

A stock 1.3 is within the 12-13 second range if you drive it right. The slow 20-80 time is because he wasn't "launching", meaning he had to slog through the entire first gear. To get anywhere under 12 seconds, you have to launch at a catastrophic 5000+ rpms on the tachometer and slip the clutch brutally to keep the engine spinning through first gear and up into the powerband right away.

Maybe someone flat-shifting through the transmission will get near 11... on a cool day with a fresh engine and a stripped interior. Someone who doesn't care about grinding the transmission to dust. But under 10 seconds? Whoever claims that can set an appointment with us at Speedlab for V-Box testing. Hell... let's put money on the table on the results... shall we?

i agree with this, i seriously doubt a stock 1.3 vios can do 0-100km in under 10 seconds. maybe going downhill it might.

btw slyfox how did you time your 0-100km run?

[ghosthunter]

easy lang guys . that blog is not mine ;) --- Review: Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation) - Pinoy Auto Blog

i also experience it with my vios 1.3e. modification i change my stock air filter to knn

maniwala man kayo o hindi ok lang sa akin yon dahil nag sang ayon lang ako sa writer ng blog.

You used the blog as some "reference" to the sub-10 performance of the Vios, hence the question for you to verify your claims.

BTW, the article's author admits that he didn't do any instrumented testing on the performance so his words in the article on the Vios' performance is not worth anything.

[Ry_Tower]

i think the correct question would be which is less slow.j/k

hehe, +1 on this.

[Slyfox168]

i think the correct question would be which is less slow.j/k




i agree with this, i seriously doubt a stock 1.3 vios can do 0-100km in under 10 seconds. maybe going downhill it might.

btw slyfox how did you time your 0-100km run?

i time it with my watch po. downhill would more faster for 1.3E vios maybe hehehe :D to tell you guys the truth ako mismo hindi din mapaniwala sa bilis ng vios noon kagaya din ninyo ngayon.

syanga pala may 1.3 vios ba kayo?

[foresterx]

my uncle used to have one 2005 or 2006 model ata yon, sold it na and got an xtrail. i've driven that so many times before i got a car, i seriously doubt it would run less than 10 seconds 0-100km/h even with the best driver driving it there is no way it can. i'll even put money on that. it's either you didn't time it properly or your watch is broken, unless you have brought it to the track and you were timed properly i can guarantee you that there is no way your car can run less than 10 sec. 0-100km/h. i'm not bashing the vios, all i'm saying is there is no way it can do what your saying in stock form.

[Starex_Gold]

syanga pala may 1.3 vios ba kayo?

1.5G A/T.

But can't hit 100km/h in less than 10 secs.

[Slyfox168]

dont know about the 1st gen vios performance mine is 2nd gen vios.

peace

[mda]

As far as I know, same lang yung engine/transmission combination. Weight issues aside, performance *SHOULD* (guys correct me if I'm wrong) be negligible.

[Ry_Tower]

As far as I know, same lang yung engine/transmission combination. Weight issues aside, performance *SHOULD* (guys correct me if I'm wrong) be negligible.

Yes tama ka dyan.

[foresterx]

As far as I know, same lang yung engine/transmission combination. Weight issues aside, performance *SHOULD* (guys correct me if I'm wrong) be negligible.

correct, even so i've driven a bunch of 2009/10 1.5 vios since most of our company cars are toyota's. 1.5's still can't do less than 10sec. 0-100km/h. i even did a hard launch on one of our company cars, revv it up to 5k then slip the clutch then power shift up to 3rd gear and still wouldn't go under 10sec.