Is Toyota still forcing you to do 5,000km PMS?

[homhomnova]

Pa PM din nung discount coupon!

First 100,000kms ng Rav4 ko every 10k PMS interval sa casa while using FS oil and di naman kami pinilit na isingit pa yung 5k. Now nasa 115k na mileage pinabuksan ko yung valve cover sobra linis pa ng mga singit singit.

sir.. ikaw magpi print nun sa website tapos dadalhin mo yun pag pms mo..

try mo sir sa website ng toyota balintawak (toyotabalintawak.com.ph).. pwede rin yan sa Toyota North Edsa kse sister company yung dalawa..

alam ko ganun din sa Toyota Shaw at Otis.. di ko lang sure kung ganun din sa ibang casa..

[Vodka]

^^Taken from the Ecosport thread:


American brand fanboi?

see i'm not a Honda boy! hahaha

[Vodka]

Anyway, the TS' first point has been rebuffed already as his claim that Toyota doesn't allow 10K service was proven otherwise. I was at Toyota today and the SA confirmed also that the PMS if the car is using fully synthetic oil is 10,000kms. 5,000kms if you're using mineral.

I don't think my earlier question has been answered so we can probe on who's really screwing who. What's the average 10K PMS cost of the Honda or Chevy which the TS prefers?

In the case of my Altis 1.6L (serviced at toyota shaw)
25K service - Php 2,371.50 (1,471.50 labor and oil filter + P900 approx for the semi-synth oil i brought in).
30K service - Php 3,420.00 (2,520 labor and oil filter + P900 approx oil)
Total: P 5,791.50 for the last 10,000kms.

1) again i don't necessarily prefer honda/chevy. i'm just citing those 2 for comparison and contrast for OBVIOUS reasons. i'm actually looking into buying a ford but will have to look into their PMS policies first

2) toyota manuals do not specify nor discriminate between dino juice or fully-synth. and for the millionth time honda PMS is 10,000 km using DINO JUICE. so what's that point of mine that has been rebuffed again?

again if you want me to shut up just show me any document that says that you can't use dino juice for 10,000 kms. i'll even mix a vodka cocktail for you

cheers

[Vodka]

nagtataka lang ako.. bakit kaya ang laki ng problema ni TS tungkol sa pms ng oto?

ni walang sumagot dito sa thread na OO pinilit sila ng toyota na mag pms ng 5k km.. ano kayang sagot ang gusto nyang malaman sa ating mga kapwa tsikoters?

tapos hyundai naman daw ang babanatan nya.. parang ang laki nga ng problema nya..

sabagay kaka join lang pala nya ngayong Feb.. baka hindi pa nakakapag back read..

ahihihi..

hehe coz i don't like getting fncked by the big car companies

obviously there are 2 camps here, those who love getting eff'ed and those who don't. apparently the former outnumber the latter.

again, consumer rights and protection is low to nonexistent here in PH precisely because of people like you. everyday we all get fncked by big telcos (just see how slow internet is here in PH, not to mention the recent "fair-use" policies). we get fncked by the gov't (i'm now applying for a permit-to-carry and it takes over a month wtf!!!). corruption is rampant and is getting worse. WAKE UP PEOPLE WE DESERVE BETTER!

(sorry for the OT rant, PH society is really going down the drain)

[homhomnova]

hehe coz i don't like getting fncked by the big car companies

obviously there are 2 camps here, those who love getting eff'ed and those who don't. apparently the former outnumber the latter.

again, consumer rights and protection is low to nonexistent here in PH precisely because of people like you

Hehehe.. nakakaawa ka naman TS.. ang laki ng problema mo..

mag jeep ka na lang kaya para solb ang problema mo.. every 2 years pms..

ahihihi..

btw TS.. ano ba kotse mo ngayon if i may ask.. wala ka man lang kse naikwento na experience mo sa pms at puro documents hinahanap mo?

[lowslowbenz]

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I vote to close this thread. Topic in here is irrelevant. Mag-a-away-away lang mga tao dito.

[cast_no_shadow]

Spare yourself from stress, wala rin naman pupuntahan yan. Magpa PM ka kung kelan mo gusto, drop the warranty since you don't want the terms of the dealer.

DON'T BUY TOYOTA!




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[Vodka]

MODERATORS:

Cathy
Clavel
GH

I vote to close this thread. Topic in here is irrelevant. Mag-a-away-away lang mga tao dito.

Agree, pls close the thread. Some posts have become totally devoid of logic

[jhnkvn]

Shet. Wag muna! Gonna back read! Parang ang saya dito.. parang yun Hyundai equivalent ng rack-and-pinion Elantra thingy..

[cast_no_shadow]

Shet. Wag muna! Gonna back read! Parang ang saya dito.. parang yun Hyundai equivalent ng rack-and-pinion Elantra thingy..

Double time bro!

Drop your 2 cents if you could.


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[_Cathy_]

Please behave...

[lawrenz17]

to TS
dami na ata nagsabi na pumapayag naman ang toyota na 10k interval kung fully synthetic.anu pa nirereklamo mo mong 2 sides na nagpapauto at hindi?personally 5k interval ng toyota namen since diesel(innova) to.being a toyota owner for 7 years,first is our altis na kung kelan lang maisipan ipa change oil eh dun lang ipapa change oil(obviously wala pa kong alam dahil first car namen)never akong naka experience ng pag void ng warranty dahil lumagpas ako sa 5k interval,mineral oil nga lang din pala gamit sa altis namen.

btw 2 toyota casas na ang napagtanungan ko at ok lang sa kanila yung 10k interval for fully synthetic.

[K.I.L.L.]

How about producing an official letter / memo from Toyota on how they are requiring people to come in with their vehicles for 5,000 kms PMS?

I'm not a Toyota fan boy. Heck, our latest purchase last November was a Honda and a few months before that was a grey market Hyundai and we just follow whatever it is they require to keep the vehicle in warranty. We understand that different brands require different maintenance regimens so we just follow whatever the brand requires so we could have a worry-free vehicle as long as possible and save on repair bills should we need to invoke the warranty.

I mean seriously, I can't believe how the TS made a mountain out of a molehill. Now if the TS wants to cut costs on maintenance, then that's up to him but I don't see the point of calling people here names just because they do not agree on an opinion. Who made the TS an authority on the matter of PMS?

[lawrenz17]

How about producing an official letter / memo from Toyota on how they are requiring people to come in with their vehicles for 5,000 kms PMS?

I'm not a Toyota fan boy. Heck, our latest purchase last November was a Honda and a few months before that was a grey market Hyundai and we just follow whatever it is they require to keep the vehicle in warranty. We understand that different brands require different maintenance regimens so we just follow whatever the brand requires so we could have a worry-free vehicle as long as possible and save on repair bills should we need to invoke the warranty.

I mean seriously, I can't believe how the TS made a mountain out of a molehill. Now if the TS wants to cut costs on maintenance, then that's up to him but I don't see the point of calling people here names just because they do not agree on an opinion. Who made the TS an authority on the matter of PMS?

+1 on naming people and please just don't call other people "loved to be fncked" if they don't agree with you,we may not agree with you in this matter but if you read other topics regarding manufacturer's "kapalpakan" i'm sure iisa tayo ng sasabihin.

[dr. d]

i'm going to buy myself a toyota, because i like the product. casa PMS is just an incidental i can live with. no big deal..
choosing a car on the basis of what the PMS should be? that's.... ! heh heh.

[Vodka]

people,

what happened to the reading comprehension skills?

toyota doesn't let you go 10,000 on non-FS dino juice. while honda does. this is the whole point of this thread conveniently summarized in this one paragraph.

i don't care about FS oil okay. clear now? no wonder yota is letting you go 10k on FS coz it costs heck of a lot more

FWIW, again FWIW! (DO NOT READ TOO MUCH INTO THIS PARAGRAPH). here's my jazz's L13A engine with 9 years and 130,000 kms on it. DINO JUICE since day1, i repeat DINOJUICE NON-FS! 10,000 or 6-months intervals. still runs like a champ. DOES NOT BURN OIL, the level on the dipstick doesn't move at all over the 6-month cycle.

and my previous corolla i also did the 10,000 / 6-months using DINO JUICE until i sold it when it was 10yo. still rolling to this day. apparently my PMS habits did not destroy it prematurely

so contrary to popular belief a car doesn't spontaneously explode when you run it 10,000/6mo between oil changes. yes folks it's called "oil change" not "change oil" LOL

[chookchakchenes]

Kahit sa honda nambobola din. Sa honda spa sinabihan ako na 10,000 kms or every 6months fully synthetic. Pero if i use mineral oil every 3months or 3,000kms. Ano ako hunghang! Hindi ko sinunod.

May sales quota ang service ng casa kaya ganyan. Ibenta ang mamahalin na langis/service/hanapan ng sira kahit wala para mareach quota. (ingat kayo pag sinabihan kayo sira suspension, underchasis.....yan ang trabaho magastos na gusto ng casa)

[willyfernando]

If I may share my point on the topic, I recently bought a van from Hancars and their PMS is pegged at 5k for the next 5 years or so. Judging on the quotation of the package per 5k PMS it would more or less cost me PHP5,600 thereabouts per visit. Naturally this would dent my wallet but looking at the local conditions of our traffic and road maintenance I just psyched myself to look at it as a 1+ PESO/kilometer preventive expense. A stick of cigarette may be more expensive than the oil I will spend per/km on a vehicle that plays so much role in our lives. Heck even a can of soda is more expensive than that and it can kill you overtime and yet some or most of us couldn't get by w/o them. It doesn't matter if it's a HONDA or TOYOTA or any other brand, it's how you value your prized car and how much you are willing to spend on it just to get the most out of its service life.

[iceblueyes]

you conveniently ignore some of the points raised here like the sheer volume of toyota cars on the road compared to your beloved honda.
Yes, they profit from it but I would rather think its a preventive move by them for possible warranty claims on breakdowns.
Like they may even have adopted his policy based on a decision related to their previous sludging issues. Prevention>cure.

anyways, I'm still confused on what you are trying to say.
That Honda is gracious enough to let you use mineral/regular/dino oil even with 10k pms intervals?
Well good for them, siguro naman mas kaya nilang pumayag na lang dito kaysa may ma-turnoff pang potential buyer.

[yebo]

Para matigil na lahat mag MAZDA na kayo. FREE PM FOR 3 YEARS.

haha!