Is Toyota still forcing you to do 5,000km PMS?

[blacksun25]

there's no way for honda to know either. but it's still 10k for honda

re: Honda. perhaps they make profit from sources other than PMS. You have to consider the total cost of ownership in the long run. How are Honda's spare parts prices compare to Toyota's? How about the initial acquisition cost? Sino ba mas mura Honda o Toyota given na apples to apples ang unit na kino-compare?

Look at Mazda, they are offering free PMS. So where do you think Mazda gets resources/ funding to offer such? Again these are business decisions that these companies have to make. You, being the buyer, have the power to choose whether to patronize or not.

[iceblueyes]

there's no way for honda to know either. but it's still 10k for honda

Please, compare the sheer amount of volume of Toyota to Honda.
as of the latest sales report I bothered to google its 6x.

6x the chances for:
people to actually drive it in severe conditions while claiming normal
people to suffer breakage/wear & tear/whatever from said driving
people to complain/blog/facebook about it then try claim warranty

If you like Honda's PMS interval so much go get one. I don't see you complaining about Hyundai's and theirs is actually more ridiculous

[greatauror28]

Mga tsikoteers, alam nyo ba na sa Toyota Philippines lang ganyan?

Sa ibang bansa, like dito sa Canada, kahit ibang brand okay lang ikaw na lang mag change-oil, as long as you keep the receipt of the things you used (i.e. oil, filter, etc.) para may record ka when you did the oil change. Wala lang akong lugar and hindi ako mechanically-inclined sa makina ng cars kaya hindi ko pa magawa ng ako lang.

OA ang mga nagsasabi na severe driving conditions ang Pinas, eh traffic at init lang naman kalaban nyo jan. Compared dito freezing talaga and may road salt ka pang kalaban tapos nagto-tow pa ng fifth wheel, in addition to the traffic and init kapag summer/spring.

So in the end, yes business model yan ng TOYOTA PH lang, hindi Toyota worldwide. May nagsabi nga saken na yan ang pinakamalaking kita ng toyota - yang maintenance service nila.

Since nasa pinas kayo at wala kayong magagawa kundi sumunod sa 5K rule nila, magpa service na lang at baka magka aberya mahirap na.

Chill out guys!

[jmpet626]

Sa toyota balintawak pwede every 10,000kms amg imterval pag fully synth oil nilagay mo. Tried this with our Rav4 and Gasoline Fort.

[blacksun25]

Sa ibang bansa, like dito sa Canada, kahit ibang brand okay lang ikaw na lang mag change-oil, as long as you keep the receipt of the things you used (i.e. oil, filter, etc.) para may record ka when you did the oil change.

really? pano kaya nila nalalaman na yung oil eh pasok sa requirements nung car at kung nag change oil talaga yung owner? hehehe

if this business model eh i-adopt dito sa pinas, tingin ko marami magsasarang car dealerships. hehehe.

[vinj]

And who's that manufacturer that doesn't allow their cars to be taxis again?

Anyway, Toyota is taking the conservative stance and besides, their PMS charge isn't really expensive. If I recall correctly even, one 10K PMS charge for Hondas is almost equivalent to the 5K and 10k charge of Toyota combined (assuming the Toyota is using mineral oil and Honda uses full synth). Can someone reconfirm this? This was the case back in the early 00s when we still had our ES and CR-V and compared it against our Altis.

My ES was CASA maintained every 5,000kms because that's what i preferred and Honda did not even change a part (TDC sensor) that was subject to a recall until it malfunctioned in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night. That was the second to the last straw next to our brand new FD which had water leaking into the interior in strong rain.

Anyway, to the TS, no one's stopping you from buying Honda or Chevy and enjoying the 10K service interval. Those are good cars still and they're engaging to drive over the more generic Toyotas. However, do leave us alone with with our 5,000km service. Although yeah it is irritating if you're a heavy user but that's trade off to me after owning both Toyotas and Hondas amongst some. The Toyotas just gave us less problems in the long run and still cost less to maintain.

yup bet... Sabi nga nila bang for the buck ang baldwin. naghoard na nga ako eh... Whahahha
BTW just wondering ang Altis 11Gen ba ay BT223 din ba kaya ang oil filter???

Gen 10.5 and Gen 11 already use oil filter elements.

[yebo]

way back in 2000 when i bought my mitsubishi lancer, i asked the person in charge of handling warranty claims at mitsu q.ave. if i can have the PM done outside the casa. he told me ok lang after the 10k pm as long as the service record is rubber stamped and signed by the service shop (so hindi pwede yung tabi-tabi, dapat reputable din naman) and i keep the receipt including the receipt for the parts used. so ayun sa 15k pm sa labas na ako nagpa-pm. but that was back then, now it is different, they already require casa maintenance. sayang nga din naman yung business.

nowadays my favorite rant is the one against hyundai, or HARI in particular. i bought a 2011 grand starex (my 3rd hyundai) and i was told the warranty and pm schedule is as per normal, 3 years warranty and 5000km/6 months whichever comes first. ok, all good. then after 3 months i was told that because of their 5 year extended warranty i should now have my vehicle serviced every 5000 km/3 months! I protested, i told them i bought my vehicle before that policy came out so i will only avail of the 3 years warranty and follow the 5000km/6months rule. they said NO, 3 months or i lose my warranty. I followed 5000km interval, and each time (5000km, 10,000 km and 15000 km) their service manager would remind me (more like a threat) that i will lose the warranty if i do not bring it in every 3 months. i said "fnck you hari!" and took my business elsewhere. i save at least 50% having my gs serviced at another brand name casa where i bring my own oil and spare parts.

now i have a kia sorento, and it's 5000km/6 months mineral oil or 10,000km/6 months fully synthetic. i can bring my own oil and spare parts from outside vendors and pay only for the labor, no questions asked. i am very satisfied.

i am buying a pick up. i would have loved to have the ford ranger wildtrak, but ford sales sucks big time, asking for DI and forcing their in-house financing with double the interest rate of banks. so i said "fnck you ford!" and took my business to mazda where there is no DI and the in-house financing rate is the same as bank direct financing rates. and i get 3 years/60,000km FREE preventive maintenance including oils and spares. and i say it again, "fnck you ford!"

it all boils down to choices. if you continue to patronize blindly a brand then they will abuse your blind loyalty. so yes, i can sympathise with what the TS is trying to say.

FnCK YOU H.A.R.I.!
FnCK YOU FORD!

[_Qwerty_]

magkano PMS sa honda every 10K?

magkano PMS sa toyota every 5K?

Maintenance cost is part of owning a car and if you feel cheated to spend 2K to 3K every 6 months for 5K PMS, then nasa sayo yun, you can do your PMS every 12 months.. for some it's peace of mind knowing that every 6 months na che check yung sasakyan.. yung iba nga tuwing PMS lang nabubuksan yung hood eh..

[1D4LV]

my personal take.....
the 5k PM eh to each his own yan.
you bought a new car.
it has a warranty..
you have to abide with the terms and conditions needed for the warranty.
but you have a choice to give up these conditions in relation to the warranty.

the 5k kms can be cheap kesa sa in the future magkaproblema ang oto and hindi i honor ang warranty because of the failure to abide with the terms and conditions.

any new car owner can opt to have his car serviced kaagad outside of the casa kung talagang gusto nya.

again, imho.

[homhomnova]

jeep na lang para pwede kahit dalawang taon ang change oil.. walang normal at severe driving condition kundi any driving condition pwede..

hehehehe..