Is Toyota still forcing you to do 5,000km PMS?

[Walter]

Fuel quality here is just not the same as 1st world countries.

[keithdb]

To answer the TS,
NO, toyota is not forcing me to have oil change every 5,000 kms. I do however, keep a 5K/6 Mo. OCI, since i want a 2x a year check-up/oil change to ensure that the car is in its best running condition.
I am sure they have done studies why they recommend the 5k rule. But honestly, have you asked TOYOTA for their basis? or at least inquired with real experts if the 5k rule is actually reasonable?
Mas malala pa nga hyundai eh, why are you not ranting about hyundai?

[Vodka]

To answer the TS,
NO, toyota is not forcing me to have oil change every 5,000 kms. I do however, keep a 5K/6 Mo. OCI, since i want a 2x a year check-up/oil change to ensure that the car is in its best running condition.
I am sure they have done studies why they recommend the 5k rule. But honestly, have you asked TOYOTA for their basis? or at least inquired with real experts if the 5k rule is actually reasonable?
Mas malala pa nga hyundai eh, why are you not ranting about hyundai?

umm toyota fanboy? wait for my hyundai PMS rant thread

honda's is 10,000 / 6-months. so yes it's 2x a year

of course i've asked toyota for their basis! they just said "ganun talaga" dahil "severe" daw ang pilipinas. LOL

again the BASIS SHOULD BE the manuals with the PMS intervals determined by the car maker itself who actually designed the car i.e. the "real experts". and of course they have taken into account the local weather, as well as the long-term reliability of their product which of course WILL AFFECT their brand image. so yes they have studied this very well!

[keithdb]

Have you really ASKED Toyota? that answer you have given is made by someone who does not know what he is talking about.
The manual that you are talking about is a standard manual given globally.
Each country has different conditions so what is written in the manual may not be applicable to the destination country. The decision is left actually to the local subsidiary to determine what is most applicable to the location.
If you are really concerned about this, ask your question to TMP directly and not some low level CASA employee.
And please stop with name calling.

[artsky]

The first time I see this thread, I immediately had the impression that it was intended to stir a hornet's nest.

Obviously, non-toyota ang gusto ng threadstarter. I'd say go buy whatever brand it is and enjoy it. No need to bash the brand or look low on people who doesn't share the same interest as you. People who follow maintenance regimen as stated by the manufacturer isn't falling blind. They are just responsible car owners that put safety first before anything else.

[homhomnova]

umm toyota fanboy? wait for my hyundai PMS rant thread

honda's is 10,000 / 6-months. so yes it's 2x a year

of course i've asked toyota for their basis! they just said "ganun talaga" dahil "severe" daw ang pilipinas. LOL

again the BASIS SHOULD BE the manuals with the PMS intervals determined by the car maker itself who actually designed the car i.e. the "real experts". and of course they have taken into account the local weather, as well as the long-term reliability of their product which of course WILL AFFECT their brand image. so yes they have studied this very well!

nagtataka lang ako.. bakit kaya ang laki ng problema ni TS tungkol sa pms ng oto?

ni walang sumagot dito sa thread na OO pinilit sila ng toyota na mag pms ng 5k km.. ano kayang sagot ang gusto nyang malaman sa ating mga kapwa tsikoters?

tapos hyundai naman daw ang babanatan nya.. parang ang laki nga ng problema nya..

sabagay kaka join lang pala nya ngayong Feb.. baka hindi pa nakakapag back read..

ahihihi..

[JohnM]

^^Taken from the Ecosport thread:

i'm thinking about this or the chevy spin diesel

American brand fanboi?

[Vodka]

nagtataka lang ako.. bakit kaya ang laki ng problema ni TS tungkol sa pms ng oto?

ni walang sumagot dito sa thread na OO pinilit sila ng toyota na mag pms ng 5k km.. ano kayang sagot ang gusto nyang malaman sa ating mga kapwa tsikoters?

tapos hyundai naman daw ang babanatan nya.. parang ang laki nga ng problema nya..

sabagay kaka join lang pala nya ngayong Feb.. baka hindi pa nakakapag back read..

ahihihi..

hehe coz i don't like getting fncked by the big car companies

obviously there are 2 camps here, those who love getting eff'ed and those who don't. apparently the former outnumber the latter.

again, consumer rights and protection is low to nonexistent here in PH precisely because of people like you. everyday we all get fncked by big telcos (just see how slow internet is here in PH, not to mention the recent "fair-use" policies). we get fncked by the gov't (i'm now applying for a permit-to-carry and it takes over a month wtf!!!). corruption is rampant and is getting worse. WAKE UP PEOPLE WE DESERVE BETTER!

(sorry for the OT rant, PH society is really going down the drain)

[niky]

The funny thing here is:

again the BASIS SHOULD BE the manuals with the PMS intervals determined by the car maker itself who actually designed the car i.e. the "real experts". and of course they have taken into account the local weather, as well as the long-term reliability of their product which of course WILL AFFECT their brand image. so yes they have studied this very well!

And as far as I can tell, the recommended change interval for mineral oil (which is the standard oil for the 5k PMS) is 3,000 miles according to Toyota in the US... which is roughly... you guessed it... 5,000 kilometers. If you want to go to the 7,500 mile interval, you have to go synthetic. And even on synthetic, they recommend not going more than 5,000 miles (7,500 kilometers) during severe use.

Anlabo naman, oh.

[homhomnova]

hehe coz i don't like getting fncked by the big car companies

obviously there are 2 camps here, those who love getting eff'ed and those who don't. apparently the former outnumber the latter.

again, consumer rights and protection is low to nonexistent here in PH precisely because of people like you

Hehehe.. nakakaawa ka naman TS.. ang laki ng problema mo..

mag jeep ka na lang kaya para solb ang problema mo.. every 2 years pms..

ahihihi..

btw TS.. ano ba kotse mo ngayon if i may ask.. wala ka man lang kse naikwento na experience mo sa pms at puro documents hinahanap mo?

[lowslowbenz]

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GH

I vote to close this thread. Topic in here is irrelevant. Mag-a-away-away lang mga tao dito.

[cast_no_shadow]

Spare yourself from stress, wala rin naman pupuntahan yan. Magpa PM ka kung kelan mo gusto, drop the warranty since you don't want the terms of the dealer.

DON'T BUY TOYOTA!




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[Vodka]

MODERATORS:

Cathy
Clavel
GH

I vote to close this thread. Topic in here is irrelevant. Mag-a-away-away lang mga tao dito.

Agree, pls close the thread. Some posts have become totally devoid of logic

[jhnkvn]

Shet. Wag muna! Gonna back read! Parang ang saya dito.. parang yun Hyundai equivalent ng rack-and-pinion Elantra thingy..

[cast_no_shadow]

Shet. Wag muna! Gonna back read! Parang ang saya dito.. parang yun Hyundai equivalent ng rack-and-pinion Elantra thingy..

Double time bro!

Drop your 2 cents if you could.


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Please behave...

[lawrenz17]

to TS
dami na ata nagsabi na pumapayag naman ang toyota na 10k interval kung fully synthetic.anu pa nirereklamo mo mong 2 sides na nagpapauto at hindi?personally 5k interval ng toyota namen since diesel(innova) to.being a toyota owner for 7 years,first is our altis na kung kelan lang maisipan ipa change oil eh dun lang ipapa change oil(obviously wala pa kong alam dahil first car namen)never akong naka experience ng pag void ng warranty dahil lumagpas ako sa 5k interval,mineral oil nga lang din pala gamit sa altis namen.

btw 2 toyota casas na ang napagtanungan ko at ok lang sa kanila yung 10k interval for fully synthetic.

[K.I.L.L.]

How about producing an official letter / memo from Toyota on how they are requiring people to come in with their vehicles for 5,000 kms PMS?

I'm not a Toyota fan boy. Heck, our latest purchase last November was a Honda and a few months before that was a grey market Hyundai and we just follow whatever it is they require to keep the vehicle in warranty. We understand that different brands require different maintenance regimens so we just follow whatever the brand requires so we could have a worry-free vehicle as long as possible and save on repair bills should we need to invoke the warranty.

I mean seriously, I can't believe how the TS made a mountain out of a molehill. Now if the TS wants to cut costs on maintenance, then that's up to him but I don't see the point of calling people here names just because they do not agree on an opinion. Who made the TS an authority on the matter of PMS?

[lawrenz17]

How about producing an official letter / memo from Toyota on how they are requiring people to come in with their vehicles for 5,000 kms PMS?

I'm not a Toyota fan boy. Heck, our latest purchase last November was a Honda and a few months before that was a grey market Hyundai and we just follow whatever it is they require to keep the vehicle in warranty. We understand that different brands require different maintenance regimens so we just follow whatever the brand requires so we could have a worry-free vehicle as long as possible and save on repair bills should we need to invoke the warranty.

I mean seriously, I can't believe how the TS made a mountain out of a molehill. Now if the TS wants to cut costs on maintenance, then that's up to him but I don't see the point of calling people here names just because they do not agree on an opinion. Who made the TS an authority on the matter of PMS?

+1 on naming people and please just don't call other people "loved to be fncked" if they don't agree with you,we may not agree with you in this matter but if you read other topics regarding manufacturer's "kapalpakan" i'm sure iisa tayo ng sasabihin.

[dr. d]

i'm going to buy myself a toyota, because i like the product. casa PMS is just an incidental i can live with. no big deal..
choosing a car on the basis of what the PMS should be? that's.... ! heh heh.