Is Toyota still forcing you to do 5,000km PMS?

[Retz]

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The last time i check it is under 40k pms replace all fluids including the coolant.


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[yebo]

My Fortuner service manual states service interval of THREE MONTHS/5000 km.

Nakakaawa ka naman.

[homhomnova]

Ito naman experience ko...During the 5000 pms ko at Toyota Naga, i was told kung mineral oil gagamitin ko 5000kms interval, but if Fully Synthetic naman oil ang gamitin ko every 10,000 kms... Yan mismo ang sinabi sa akin ng mga gumagawa dun.

yan din ang basehan ko sa pag change oil. Actually, napaka simply ng tanong ni TS.. oo o hindi lang ang sagot..

Kaya ang sagot ko sa tanong nya ay HINDI. Ginagawa ko yun dahil yun ang gusto ko at yun ang sa alam kong makakabuti at makakapagpahaba sa buhay ng sasakyan ko..

If you don't believe in something bakit mo gagawin? At kung ayaw mo sa product at service including their business policy ng isang brand, we have all the options to choose what best fit into our needs/wants..

btw.. curious lang ako.. ano kaya itsura ng mineral oil after 10k km? Eversince kse di ko pa nasubukan paabutin ng 6k ang OCI ko. Yung 5k km nga lang ang lapot na at maitim na kulay.

[dr. d]

btw.. curious lang ako.. ano kaya itsura ng mineral oil after 10k km? Eversince kse di ko pa nasubukan paabutin ng 6k ang OCI ko. Yung 5k km nga lang ang lapot na at maitim na kulay.[/QUOTE]

hindi ko rin alam.. siguro pomadang itim!

[jmpet626]

btw.. curious lang ako.. ano kaya itsura ng mineral oil after 10k km? Eversince kse di ko pa nasubukan paabutin ng 6k ang OCI ko. Yung 5k km nga lang ang lapot na at maitim na kulay.

hindi ko rin alam.. siguro pomadang itim![/QUOTE]



Mineral ba yung oil na nilalagay ng Honda from Factory? If yes, yung friend ko na girl na bumili ng New Honda Jazz naka lampas na ng 12k yung oil niya bago siya nagpa change oil ulit. Reklamo niya nawalan ng hatak yung engine so pag check ko ng Oil below E line na ng dipstick yung oil at sobrang lapot na sobrang itim. Di ata siya na inform na kailagan din pala i change oil ang brand new na oto.

[chookchakchenes]

Mineral ba yung oil na nilalagay ng Honda from Factory? If yes, yung friend ko na girl na bumili ng New Honda Jazz naka lampas na ng 12k yung oil niya bago siya nagpa change oil ulit. Reklamo niya nawalan ng hatak yung engine so pag check ko ng Oil below E line na ng dipstick yung oil at sobrang lapot na sobrang itim. Di ata siya na inform na kailagan din pala i change oil ang brand new na oto.

Sa mga second-hand car seller, pinagmamalaki ang lady-driven. Pero ako takot pag babae usually may-ari kotse. Malinis ang interior pati alaga sa car wash pero ang engine poorly maintain.

[dr. d]

Sa mga second-hand car seller, pinagmamalaki ang lady-driven. Pero ako takot pag babae usually may-ari kotse. Malinis ang interior pati alaga sa car wash pero ang engine poorly maintain.

"lady-driven" can go either way... even to extremes. and i have seen examples of both.
the only situation i like "lady driven" is when the lady is small and petite. that way, hindi lundo ang driver's seat. beyond that, it's time to empty the caviar..

[Vodka]

yan din ang basehan ko sa pag change oil. Actually, napaka simply ng tanong ni TS.. oo o hindi lang ang sagot..

Kaya ang sagot ko sa tanong nya ay HINDI. Ginagawa ko yun dahil yun ang gusto ko at yun ang sa alam kong makakabuti at makakapagpahaba sa buhay ng sasakyan ko..

If you don't believe in something bakit mo gagawin? At kung ayaw mo sa product at service including their business policy ng isang brand, we have all the options to choose what best fit into our needs/wants..

btw.. curious lang ako.. ano kaya itsura ng mineral oil after 10k km? Eversince kse di ko pa nasubukan paabutin ng 6k ang OCI ko. Yung 5k km nga lang ang lapot na at maitim na kulay.

yeah but what if a customer wants a certain toyota or hyundai vehicle but is turned off by the PMS policies???

as for the oil, i'm not a tribologist, you're not either, so we really can't comment on the characteristics of the oil after a certain number of kilometers. as i've said, the very smart engineers WHO ACTUALLY BUILT THE ENGINE have indicated the recommended PMS intervals in their manuals.

[dr. d]

as i've said, the very smart engineers WHO ACTUALLY BUILT THE ENGINE have indicated the recommended PMS intervals in their manuals.[/QUOTE]

ah... no. not necessarily.
the smart engineers may have come up with something.. but someone else made and edited that manual to say this or that..

[Vodka]

as i've said, the very smart engineers WHO ACTUALLY BUILT THE ENGINE have indicated the recommended PMS intervals in their manuals.

ah... no. not necessarily.
the smart engineers may have come up with something.. but someone else made and edited that manual to say this or that..[/QUOTE]


what i mean is that the company who built the car knows it best and has indicated the recommended PMS interval in their documentation. i'm sure you get my point

don't forget that these intervals can affect the long-term reliability of their product which in turn WILL DEFINITELY impact their brand image so i'm sure they have studied this very well

[kevinworld]

I prefer using mineral oil and changing it every 5000 Km
At least labas yung dumi in a short interval.

Aabutin mo ng 10,000 km. Dumi = dumi kahit synthetic ang gagamitin mo.
Synthetic is better if you tow, race and drive to the limits.

For normal driving conditions in the city, ok na multigrade mineral
Palitan mo plus check up vehicle in casa.

We all know that mineral oil last 5000kms. No need to extend its life.
Sa Hyundai dito sa Amin. Kailangan synthetic talaga sa casa oil change. Can't argue or your warranty be void.

[jmpet626]

Pa PM din nung discount coupon!

First 100,000kms ng Rav4 ko every 10k PMS interval sa casa while using FS oil and di naman kami pinilit na isingit pa yung 5k. Now nasa 115k na mileage pinabuksan ko yung valve cover sobra linis pa ng mga singit singit.

[renzo_d10]

I've come across this certain Vios driven HARD by an elderly woman once, last month.

At a certain bridge I was running at 70kph when she was flashing her lights for me to move. Well, being hard-headed, I just stepped on the gas and just planned on leaving her behind. But to my surprise, she was just a shy car away from me despite my 3-digit speed. And as soon as the traffic came to a halt, I saw the elderly woman that was behind the wheel. Hehe.

I guess not all cars driven by women are driven slowly heheh and according to my friends who have had encountered her in the past, it was normal for her to drive like that. Way to go grandma!

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[dr. d]

I've come across this certain Vios driven HARD by an elderly woman once, last month.

At a certain bridge I was running at 70kph when she was flashing her lights for me to move. Well, being hard-headed, I just stepped on the gas and just planned on leaving her behind. But to my surprise, she was just a shy car away from me despite my 3-digit speed. And as soon as the traffic came to a halt, I saw the elderly woman that was behind the wheel. Hehe.

I guess not all cars driven by women are driven slowly heheh and according to my friends who have had encountered her in the past, it was normal for her to drive like that. Way to go grandma!

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[homhomnova]

yeah but what if a customer wants a certain toyota or hyundai vehicle but is turned off by the PMS policies???

as for the oil, i'm not a tribologist, you're not either, so we really can't comment on the characteristics of the oil after a certain number of kilometers. as i've said, the very smart engineers WHO ACTUALLY BUILT THE ENGINE have indicated the recommended PMS intervals in their manuals.

As I've said.. customers have all the options.. they can shop around and get the equivalent product of other brand that suits their wants.. but if the customer really want the product of toyota or hyundai or any other brand, they have to abide by the company's policies.. and if you feel that you are getting cheated by these companies, then there are legal remedies that you can pursue..

I believe companies won't change their policies or business model just to suit up what some customers want..

[Vodka]

As I've said.. customers have all the options.. they can shop around and get the equivalent product of other brand that suits their wants.. but if the customer really want the product of toyota or hyundai or any other brand, they have to abide by the company's policies.. and if you feel that you are getting cheated by these companies, then there are legal remedies that you can pursue..

I believe companies won't change their policies or business model just to suit up what some customers want..

you still don't get it. PMS policies are ok as long as they have a BASIS! i.e. if technical manual says 10,000 then i'm not gonna argue that it should be 20,000 !!!

but if casa just sets arbitrary PMS intervals for MONEY-MAKING PURPOSES then that's a different thing!

and no, each car is unique, there are no equivalent models on another brand. SIMILAR models perhaps

anyway i can understand why you're siding with the Big Car Companies, the psychology of this has been eloborated on in the previous posts

[homhomnova]

you still don't get it. PMS policies are ok as long as they have a BASIS! i.e. if technical manual says 10,000 then i'm not gonna argue that it should be 20,000 !!!

but if casa just sets arbitrary PMS intervals for MONEY-MAKING PURPOSES then that's a different thing!

and no, each car is unique, there are no equivalent models on another brand. SIMILAR models perhaps

anyway i can understand why you're siding with the Big Car Companies, the psychology of this has been eloborated on in the previous posts

hey.. i am not siding with any of those companies.. you just have to be broad minded.. for me i don't see it as money-making because that is what i want and that is what i believe would do good for my car.. and I understand that the basis for that in general is for the warranty of the car to be intact.. i guess when you negotiated and bought your car before the dealership explained to you all their policies.. if you don't understand that then you have a problem..

[Vodka]

hey.. i am not siding with any of those companies.. you just have to be broad minded.. for me i don't see it as money-making because that is what i want and that is what i believe would do good for my car.. and I understand that the basis for that in general is for the warranty of the car to be intact.. i guess when you negotiated and bought your car before the dealership explained to you all their policies.. if you don't understand that then you have a problem..

that kind of reasoning is exactly why i'm saying we're all doomed

[Bin Diesel]

that kind of reasoning is exactly why i'm saying we're all doomed

AMEN.

too short.

[homhomnova]

that kind of reasoning is exactly why i'm saying we're all doomed

ang gusto cguro ni TS mag agree ang bawat isa sa gusto nya..

kawawa naman itong si TS.. ang laki ng problema nya sa napaka simpleng bagay..

kung ayaw mo wag mo.. ganun lang kasimple yun..

tsk tsk tsk..

cmon TS.. wake up.. baka nananaginip ng gising itong si TS..