2006 2.4L Accord, 2007 2.4L Camry Observations?

[Rediesel]

Are the performance of these engines ok? Do I still need to go one up to the V6's or these 2.4s are enough.

Owners please share your thoughts and experiences on these vehicles.

[AG4]

Are the performance of these engines ok? Do I still need to go one up to the V6's or these 2.4s are enough.

Owners please share your thoughts and experiences on these vehicles.

By the way the all-new Camry 2.4 should be getting the stronger 170PS version of the 2.4 liter VVTi engine now being used in the all-new Rav-4 and Previa.

The facelifted(buttlifted) Accord will also get an updated engine, a 170PS 2.4 liter i-VTEC.

[Camgen6]

Are the performance of these engines ok? Do I still need to go one up to the V6's or these 2.4s are enough.

Owners please share your thoughts and experiences on these vehicles.

USDM versions, Test drive ko ang 06 Accord ilang beses na w/ 2.4 I4 166hp, it is actually my first choice, with more power compared to the 07 Camry 2.4 I4 with 158hp. Yes these 4 cylinders are more than adequate enough for performance, mas sportier ang ride ng Accord, mas luxurious ang ride naman ng Camry. But the 6 cylinders are very smooth and powerful. I chose the Camry 4 cyl. because it has nice features like 7 airbags, Tire Pressure Monitoring System, at ang Audio (my own opinion) sounds better specially the bass, with MP3 capability, MP3 jack at ang volume it turns up as you drive faster and turns down as you come to a stop.

[Camgen6]

By the way the all-new Camry 2.4 should be getting the stronger 170PS version of the 2.4 liter VVTi engine now being used in the all-new Rav-4 and Previa.

The facelifted(buttlifted) Accord will also get an updated engine, a 170PS 2.4 liter i-VTEC.

Sir AG4, ano ang ibig sabihin ng PS at papaano i-convert sa horsepower?

[niky]

Almost the same as hp... about 0.98 HP = 1 PS

And yes, the 2.4 versions are more than powerful enough for local conditions, and with this size of car, offer the proper balance of power and fuel efficiency for everyday use.

[Rediesel]

What I meant was is it powerful enough in the US's freeways. Sorry if I got you confused. I'm quite familiar with the K24 iVtec, pero application niya e sa CRV, so far medyo ok naman kaya lang sometimes parang kulang sa hatak lalo na kung naka aircon. Pero pag binirit hanggang sa Vtec turning point e malakas, malakas din sa gasolina.

*Boss medyas,

Camry po ba niyo e CE, LE, SE o XLE, invoice niyo po ba nakuha? Ano options pinalagay niyo.

Actually nakaka intrigue yung bagong 3.5 V6 ng Camry sarap sigurong i long drive, 6 speed shiftable automatic yata ang transmission. Kaya lang mahal ng gas $2.9 - $<3.0 / gallon.

Any news kung merong bagong Accord by the end of the year, I was projecting to buy a new car sa thanks giving holiday, para year end sale habol ko na rin pihado makukuha ko ng invoice at low APR.

[niky]

It should be. The 2.4 on the 2004 Camry can cruise at 80-100mph very quietly. If the newer one has a slight bump in power... it should be even better.

Of course, for most Americans, the 11-second plus 0-62mph (0-100 km/h) time of the AT Camry 2.4 is "unbearably slow", but it's perfectly acceptable for daily use.

[Rediesel]

11 secs +? damn, ganon ba kabagal, the CRV with 2.4 is rated at 8.1 M/T- 9.5 secs A/T. considering its an SUV (brick not aerodynamic).


According to Motortrend.com
"With either a five-speed manual or optional four-speed slushbox, Honda coaxes V-6-like performance from an efficient I-4. Manually rowing gears in the CR-V, we almost felt we were driving a Civic Si. Our track testing said we were fairly close: From a standstill, 60 mph came in a scant 8.1 sec and the quarter mile passed in 16.1 sec at 85.2 mph. Who says a four-banger can't keep up with bigger boys?"

[mazdamazda]

11 secs +? damn, ganon ba kabagal, the CRV with 2.4 is rated at 8.1 M/T- 9.5 secs A/T. considering its an SUV (brick not aerodynamic).

9.5s for the A/T? C! Magazine puts the 2.4L CR-V's 0-100kph at around 12s+.

[niky]

Testing discrepancies. I keep forgetting some testers can't launch FFs and some can't launch ATs.

I've fallen for that, too. The RS times are listed anywhere from 8.2 - 9+

Okay, I've looked it up. Officially, 0-60 of the 5AT 2.4 Camry is 8.75 seconds. Still "slow" ( ) by American standards, but not horrible.

Still, not exactly what I'd expect of a 160hp front wheel drive mid-sizer. realistically, it should pull just under 10.

[mazdamazda]

Well... your 0-100kph is also dependent on how much abuse you want your clutch & tranny to take. Hehe.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Most tests done normally involved whatever each gear can take without hitting the red line.

Actual times may vary. But they should be somewhat proportional across vehicles. For example, My 06 Sonata is A/T only and is a hair slower in 0-60mph times with the A/T Accord V6.

With a 0-60 mph of 6.8 sec (Motor Trend), it's also a hair slower than the M/T Mazda6 V6 (6.67 sec) and quicker than the A/T Mazda6 V6.

The latter checked out when a driver with a nice blue M/T Mazda6 V6 and I had a friendly mile-long race from a stoplight. We were virtually neck to neck up to 100mph when we both quit and slowed down.

[niky]

The problem is, launching an FWD vehicle... or any vehicle, for that matter... isn't entirely easy. You don't just drop the clutch at high rpms or floor it right after tipping the clutch in... you have to find the ideal combination of revs, throttle position and clutch engagement to get the launch right.

On an AT, while you may not have to balance the clutch, you still have to find the optimum RPM at which to torque brake the thing. (worn clutches are one thing, but boiling ATF is a smell to behold!).

[Jun aka Pekto]

On an AT, while you may not have to balance the clutch, you still have to find the optimum RPM at which to torque brake the thing. (worn clutches are one thing, but boiling ATF is a smell to behold!).

That's what street starts are for. Start off normally and then punch it. None of us think cooking the transmission over a stoplight race is worth it.

I'm wondering if the Mazda 6 has a speed governor. The driver gestured to me with a slash to the neck shortly before we both slowed down. He was about a car length ahead up to that point when I pulled even.

[Camgen6]

Sir Rediesel,
LE kinuha ko at naka $2,000.00 off the MSRP so very close sa Invoice. Wala akong option na pinalagay yun lang floor mat. Halos kumpleto na kasi eh, so ang kailangan upgrade ko na lang ay new set wheels.

Yes, sa freeway more than adequate ang power niya.

Nakaka temp nga ang Camry V6 with 6 sp auto

[Rediesel]

nakakita na nga ako ng titanium silver na camry LE gwaping nga, parang lexus na ang styling hindi katulad ng previous model na pang lolo ang porma.

ano kaya LE + TRD 18" mags pogi siguro.

[Camgen6]

Kita ko kahapon sa harap ng Cosco, naka display, Titanium Silver at naka 20" Wheels.

[niky]

That's what street starts are for. Start off normally and then punch it. None of us think cooking the transmission over a stoplight race is worth it.

I'm wondering if the Mazda 6 has a speed governor. The driver gestured to me with a slash to the neck shortly before we both slowed down. He was about a car length ahead up to that point when I pulled even.

I don't doubt it does. Many FF cars have speed limiters at 130 or thereabouts.

You can tell who the speed demons in here are... (guilty, your honor! )

[Jun aka Pekto]

I don't doubt it does. Many FF cars have speed limiters at 130 or thereabouts.

You can tell who the speed demons in here are... (guilty, your honor! )

OT
The way the Mazda 6 pilot looked at his gauges (probably with surprise) and then slowed down rapidly, I'm also thinking he hit the speed governor. I've never seen a speed governor in action before especially on a sports sedan like a Mazda 6. But, the exhaust note from the Mazda 6 did become labored and different from the increasing pitch when it was still accelerating. My driver seat was just behind the Mazda 6's exhaust. So, I can hear that car's exhaust note quite clearly. I remember thinking, "Time to shift gears, buddy". It didn't occur to me then that he hit a speed wall.

Looking around the web..... C&D reported a 120mph governed speed limit on the wagon V6. I'm assuming that applies to the hatchback as well. My 2.5L Ford Contour is also speed-governed with a max speed of 115mph. That 2.5L Duratec is capable of a lot more. The 2.5L Contour SVT has the governor removed and it's top speed is 143mph. I imagine the 3.0L Duratec (on the Mazda 6 V6) is similarly capable.

Anyway, that's becoming old news. I saw my first Nissan Altima 3.5 SE-R yesterday and got smoked by it too. But, there's no shame in being beaten by a car that cost $10k more than mine. Not many midsize sedans can run with, much less beat, a Nissan Altima 3.5 SE-R.

[niky]

Agh... don't tease me... Altima SE-R... drooooooollll...

True, the SE-R is ridiculously expensive, but even the SE is supposed to be a rocket. There are quite a few stories amongst the Nissan groups of stock Altimas smoking stock 350Zs....

***sigh*** too bad the Altima will never get here. We might get the Maxima in 2.5 and 3.0 trim, but the Altima seems destined to never see our shores.