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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    What the casa supervisor told me was, if you reached below half tank then that's the time to refill.
    wow...that's kinda like telling people to climb up a broken escalator so they can reach the second floor, since they can't or won't solve the problem.

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    #62
    Quote Originally Posted by onguy14344 View Post
    *tggerhapi, sir nagpalit na kayo ng Gas Tank, Charcoal Canister at Filler Cap? Di ba nasolusyunan ung problema?
    *onguy14344
    Yes sir, nakapagpapalit na ako twice na . yun first, pina remedyohan ko muna sa talyer, kaso ndi rin nagtagal nag leak ulit. then dinala ko na sa casa, pero hindi pinalitan yun Charcoal Canister & Filler Cap, kaya cguro bumalik yun problema after 8 months. And i happen to read this thread having similar problem. This time nun pinalitan yun Gas tank, pinalitan na din yun charcoal canister & filler cap. And now i have 2 defective gas tank at home. Since wala pang binigay na permanent solution, i always check the fuel tank for any signs of deformation.

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    #63
    Quote Originally Posted by tggerhapi View Post
    *onguy14344
    Yes sir, nakapagpapalit na ako twice na . yun first, pina remedyohan ko muna sa talyer, kaso ndi rin nagtagal nag leak ulit. then dinala ko na sa casa, pero hindi pinalitan yun Charcoal Canister & Filler Cap, kaya cguro bumalik yun problema after 8 months. And i happen to read this thread having similar problem. This time nun pinalitan yun Gas tank, pinalitan na din yun charcoal canister & filler cap. And now i have 2 defective gas tank at home. Since wala pang binigay na permanent solution, i always check the fuel tank for any signs of deformation.
    * tggerhapi,
    bigla akong napabuntung hininga dun sir. Meron po ba kayong binayaran sa casa nung palit lahat?

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    #64
    Hi! First time ko po mag post dito and I just replaced our tank about 3 months ago but before that I had the tank repaired sa shop, which didn't hold. pwede ko pa ba claim under warranty? at first akala ko may tinamaan yung tank pero the location of the dent made no sense then I read this post. May possible problem pala sa tank. nung pinareplace ko walang mention of a possible problem sabi ng tao nila tinamaan daw ng bato or something.

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    #65
    Quote Originally Posted by leumas08 View Post
    Hi! First time ko po mag post dito and I just replaced our tank about 3 months ago but before that I had the tank repaired sa shop, which didn't hold. pwede ko pa ba claim under warranty? at first akala ko may tinamaan yung tank pero the location of the dent made no sense then I read this post. May possible problem pala sa tank. nung pinareplace ko walang mention of a possible problem sabi ng tao nila tinamaan daw ng bato or something.
    Ano pong variant ang unit nyo? Gas or Diesel?

    Ano pong unit nyo? Innova, Fortuner or Hilux?

    Pag nagpalit kayo ng gas tank dapat palitan din yung Charcoal Cannister at Filler Cap kung hindi uulit ang problem within few months. Kung di napalitan yung Charcoal Canister at Filler Cap, silipin mo yung gas tank mong bago kung may deformation na, pag may deformation na bilang ka lang ng ilang buwan at magkakaroon na ulit ng leak yan dahil punit na yung pinaka-kanto.

    Ganyan din yung first gas tank replacement ko sabi ng casa tinaman daw ng bato kaya sa insurance ko pinadaan ang replacement. And then nagpagawa na ko ng skid plates to protect the tank pero umulit ang problem without a scratch sa skid plate, deform ulit ang gas tank while intact ang skid plates. Eto yung ipinalaban ko sa warranty claim on the 2nd gas tank, walang reason na tinamaan ng bato kasi buo ang skid plates.

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    #66
    hindi kaya dahil sa e-10 gasoline na kinakarga natin kaya nagkakaproblema ang mga gas tanks ng innova. may mga nabasa kasi ako na nakakasira daw ng gas tank ang gasoline na may e-10 blend.

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    #67
    Quote Originally Posted by dongding79 View Post
    hindi kaya dahil sa e-10 gasoline na kinakarga natin kaya nagkakaproblema ang mga gas tanks ng innova. may mga nabasa kasi ako na nakakasira daw ng gas tank ang gasoline na may e-10 blend.
    Surely it is not from the E10 blend. It was the negative pressure build up on the tank when the engine is running which causes the deformation on the tank floor (sucking the floor inward), and when the engine is off the negative pressure is then released slowly and the the tank floor flips back to its original position. Constant bending and flipping of the tank floor would result to permanent huge dent plus crack on the cornered bends just beneath the tank "front" support strap. The huge dent and crack would always be visible beneath the front support strap.

    The problematic leak area is uniform to every cases I have known and seen, and this is suppose to be a serious matter that Toyota should consider and have disclose.

    I have spent the effort to put skid plates on the gas tank to prove that the dent was not due to accident but rather a faulty fuel system which should be covered by warranty but still I battle my claim that took more than a month before they replace my 2nd gas tank plus charcoal canister and filler cap.

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    #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Surely it is not from the E10 blend. It was the negative pressure build up on the tank when the engine is running which causes the deformation on the tank floor (sucking the floor inward), and when the engine is off the negative pressure is then released slowly and the the tank floor flips back to its original position. Constant bending and flipping of the tank floor would result to permanent huge dent plus crack on the cornered bends just beneath the tank "front" support strap. The huge dent and crack would always be visible beneath the front support strap.

    The problematic leak area is uniform to every cases I have known and seen, and this is suppose to be a serious matter that Toyota should consider and have disclose.

    I have spent the effort to put skid plates on the gas tank to prove that the dent was not due to accident but rather a faulty fuel system which should be covered by warranty but still I battle my claim that took more than a month before they replace my 2nd gas tank plus charcoal canister and filler cap.
    can we write a letter to DTI regarding this?

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    #69
    Quote Originally Posted by dongding79 View Post
    hindi kaya dahil sa e-10 gasoline na kinakarga natin kaya nagkakaproblema ang mga gas tanks ng innova. may mga nabasa kasi ako na nakakasira daw ng gas tank ang gasoline na may e-10 blend.
    if that's true, then other car brands should have the same problem. If not...then the problem would be specific to toyota.

    if a gas tank can't handle ethanol blends, then it should be considered substandard. All the politics going on about where to source ethanol notwithstanding, we've already gone with E10 -- i hope we don't take a step back.

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    #70
    Ano pong variant ang unit nyo? Gas or Diesel?

    Ano pong unit nyo? Innova, Fortuner or Hilux?

    Pag nagpalit kayo ng gas tank dapat palitan din yung Charcoal Cannister at Filler Cap kung hindi uulit ang problem within few months. Kung di napalitan yung Charcoal Canister at Filler Cap, silipin mo yung gas tank mong bago kung may deformation na, pag may deformation na bilang ka lang ng ilang buwan at magkakaroon na ulit ng leak yan dahil punit na yung pinaka-kanto.

    Ganyan din yung first gas tank replacement ko sabi ng casa tinaman daw ng bato kaya sa insurance ko pinadaan ang replacement. And then nagpagawa na ko ng skid plates to protect the tank pero umulit ang problem without a scratch sa skid plate, deform ulit ang gas tank while intact ang skid plates. Eto yung ipinalaban ko sa warranty claim on the 2nd gas tank, walang reason na tinamaan ng bato kasi buo ang skid plates.[/QUOTE]

    Toyoyal Innova - Gas po. na palitan naman po tapos nung sinubukan ko po bukasan yng filler cap may pressure po pero palabas naman does it mean na ok na po yun? kailan ulit kailangan ipacheck/maintain yng charcoal cannister and filler cap?
    Thanks

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    #71
    Until now ba issue pa din ito sa mga new models? o na-address na ito ng toyota?

    Thanks!

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    #72
    Hello po mga kabayan,

    Bago lang po ako dito, OFW at bibili po ng 2nd hand na gas innova sa bakasyon ko po.

    Nirefer po ng kasamahan ko itong site na ito at kahit papano ay naging aware na rin po sa gasoline tank problem ng innova, salamat po sa tsikot.

    Ang tanong ko po, bukod sa gas tank e wala na po bang ibang problema sa innova gas? Sa mga nagpalit na po ng Tank, Charcoal Canister at Filler Cap, bumalik po ba ung problema? If di na po bumalik, magkano po kaya lahat ang magagastos if not under warranty na ung unit?

    Pasensya na po sa madaming tanong. Salamat po in advance.

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    #73
    double post

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    #74
    Gas tank assembly cost P20K++
    Charcoal Canister and Filler cap would probably cost around less than P5K.

    Other than the gas tank problem I would say the Gas variant 2.0 VVTi is a good engine. My car is now running 4 years on a 80Kms daily route with full load passengers and it never fails my expectation. I'm now on my 2nd set of clutch assemblies and 2nd set of brake pads.

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    #75
    ngayon ko lang nabasa ang issue na ito about sa innova... i just bought a 2nd hand innova 2005 model gas a/t. Pina lift ko po ito bago ko binili. katakot naman po kung magkaproblema agad ako sa gas tank...

    pwede po bang papalitan agad ang Charcoal Canister and Filler cap sa old gas tank?

    can anyone post a picture about the old and new Charcoal Canister and Filler cap?

    TIA

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    #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Gas tank assembly cost P20K++
    Charcoal Canister and Filler cap would probably cost around less than P5K.

    Other than the gas tank problem I would say the Gas variant 2.0 VVTi is a good engine. My car is now running 4 years on a 80Kms daily route with full load passengers and it never fails my expectation. I'm now on my 2nd set of clutch assemblies and 2nd set of brake pads.
    *Mile2,

    Thank you. Hopefully problem solved for the gas tank.

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    #77
    OMG! I hope this problem gets resolved soon. Maybe they should design a new tank with additional support so the metal panels will not bend. My dad is planning to get the Innova E gas variant... Maybe he should think twice...

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    #78
    Thank you for this thread. Am hoping, that with the ties the moderators have with TMP officials, a recall can be achieved.

    I own a 2nd hand '07 Innova V (gas) and experienced this gas leak problem earlier this year. As the cost of a new gas tank and the warranty expired, I opted to have it repaired outside by welding.

    Without replacing the charcoal canister and filler cap, the problem recurred three times now. I notice this happens when I go on long trips and have to fill the tank and on instances when I go through steep inclines like basements and parking buildings.

    How I wish I could bring it to Toyota and have it repaired without cost to me. Meanwhile, will try to replace the charcoal canister and filler cap as I have it welded.

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    #79
    *Dudoy,

    Replace the filler cap and charcoal canister so as not to have a repeat warped gas tank floor. They cost cheaper than having a gas tank repair every time.

    My gas tank don't experience anymore the mysterious warping of the gas tank floor ever since the Charcoal canister at the engine bay and filler cap were replaced.

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    #80
    sir mile 2, ask lang po, are the new model innova gas 2010 have the same filler cap and canister? or iba na ang sa 2010 model? thanks

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