Toyota Hiace Commuter/GL Grandia/Super Grandia Owners & Discussions Thread [Merged]

[carlocaraddict]

.. bihisan mo ref mo .. ganon siguro pero sideways ..

:lol:

[mazdamazda]

Imagine if it were equipped with body kits... ano kaya itsura nito?

[carlocaraddict]

swak!!

[pissword]

oo nga wala bang 3.0L engine ito? ang ganda niya gusto ko hahaha

[takeshi07]

parang commuter lang din yung seats nya

[carlocaraddict]

parang commuter lang din yung seats nya

yung sa commuter variant, bench type.

[odell]

better than the commuter of course.. pero parang bus na tignan :D hehehehe ok family car but if its for family hauling.. i'd pick the apv

[badkuk]

ung shape nya...you'd think they'd stack it on top on one another like bricks when they shipped it here B)

i like the old hiace' body better

[OTEP]

Wow, ok siya. However, the more I thought about it, parang hindi din siya makakalamang masyado sa MB100. Biggest lamang niya na siguro is yung Toyota name and potentially excellent reliability.

Not that I'm nitpicking but:
*The rear seats don't fold down for hauling stuff. They don't seem to recline fully either.
*The engine is still in the middle (I prefer the true front engine lay out of the MB100).
*No body side mouldings
*No foglamps
*No rear undermirror
*Still rear-wheel drive resulting in high floor and difficulty in backing up on steep driveways
*Still no alloy wheels for the price

Anyways, it's still one of the best brand new maxivans in the market today.

[isketi]

oo nga wala bang 3.0L engine ito? ang ganda niya gusto ko hahaha

Not that I'm nitpicking but:
*The rear seats don't fold down for hauling stuff. They don't seem to recline fully either.
*The engine is still in the middle (I prefer the true front engine lay out of the MB100).
*No body side mouldings
*No foglamps
*No rear undermirror
*Still rear-wheel drive resulting in high floor and difficulty in backing up on steep driveways
*Still no alloy wheels for the price
Anyways, it's still one of the best brand new maxivans in the market today.

Baka nga siguro may higher end variant pa na ilalabas. Sana lagyan nila nung 3.0L D4D engine tapos may A/T option pa. Winner na talaga yun.

[pixelparadigm]

Isn't it that the RWD layout is beneficial to these types of vehicles? It would result to lighter steering and upward inclines wouldn't be much of a worry. A FWD layout for this type of vehicle isn't that desirable due to their long wheelbase.

[mbt]

well, FWD may grant even more interior space by making a lower floor possible (this may make loading stuff into the cargo bay easier too), since there's no need for a prop shaft and rear diff and axle. it will also have better traction in slippery situations (on a wet road, but especially on a snowy or icy road).

on the other hand, RWD may mean more neutral handling and less understeer (because of more even weight distribution), but this isn't a given because RWDs may be tuned for understeer regardless.

that said, i dont think FWD/RWD matters too much for this van. it's already plenty big enough inside as it is, so the packaging advantages of FWD aren't as useful for an application like this. and you won't exactly be driving this van like a race car right hehe (save for emergency situations where rear wheel-drive may mean more agility).

biggest downside to this all-new Grandia, imo, is the lack of folding, sliding, tumbling, or easily-removable seats. it's 2005 already hehe, seats should be 2005-smart :D

[isketi]

...biggest downside to this all-new Grandia, imo, is the lack of folding, sliding, tumbling, or easily-removable seats. it's 2005 already hehe, seats should be 2005-smart :D

The best seating configuration for me so far is that of the Kia Pregio GS, all bench type fully reclining (parang kang may kama) and folding 4th row seat for increased cargo space.

[BlueBimmer]

mukhang value for money ito if for hauling a bunch of people or family around...hmmm oks to pang kasalan hehe

[eggman]

So nilagyan ng ABS at dual airbags ang Hi Ace.Pero i hate talaga yung seats,ginaya yung sa Urvan Estate at medyo mahina yung makina lalo na medyo mabigat ang Hi Ace ngayon.may Super Grandia na parating pero baka next year pa raw.So far mag Pregio o Urvan Estate nalang kayo.Mukhang ambulance ang Hi ace parin(BAKIT KAYA?).

[OTEP]

Isn't it that the RWD layout is beneficial to these types of vehicles? It would result to lighter steering and upward inclines wouldn't be much of a worry. A FWD layout for this type of vehicle isn't that desirable due to their long wheelbase.

Lighter steering is the job of the powersteering system. The system can be tuned to deliver the desired weight.

Upward inclines are not a problem since most of the vehicle's weight (nearly 60% in the MB100, I think) is sitting on the drive wheels.

U.S. minivans have a longer wheelbase than the MB100 whose wheelbase is similar to a compact sedan (the long overhangs just make it look long) and yet they use front-drive.

In any case, the FWD layout does reward you with a lower step-in height, less driveline noise (though the noisy flywheel does seem to cancel this) and less loss of power as it is transmitted to the driveline (more hp actually reaches the wheels).

Fitting non-folding rear seats is kinda stupid, though. Maybe Toyota can refit the base model's folding rear seats for customers who want a folding rear seat. Nissan allows you to exercise this option for their Urvan Grand Estate models.

[OTEP]

Sana maging available option ito:

[glntVR]

galing ah! napagkasiya nila yung CR dyan! astig. Sana nga may mga ganyan din dito!

[mbt]

nakupo, baka ang bantot/baho niyan sa loob kapag gamitin yung protalet na yan hehehe

[carlocaraddict]

Sana maging available option ito:

astig!