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May 23rd, 2014 03:05 AM #1mga boss tanong lang?
balak ko kaseng mglabas ng van byaheng cabanatuaan/baguio?
1. anu ba malakas sa ahunan? hatak?
2. anu ba malakas ang ac?
3. anu ba matipid sa diesel?
4. mura ang maintenance?
5. pwede bang imodify ang 15 seater para gawing 18 seater?
6. urvan or commuter? same 2014 model
salamat sa tulong mga boss.
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May 24th, 2014 03:10 PM #3tested na sa ahunan
lakas ng aircon.
ang urban.
sa parts yata mas mahal ang nissan kaysa sa toyota.
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May 24th, 2014 04:32 PM #4
1. Mas malakas siyempre new technology so Hi-Ace panalo dyan.
2. Mas malakas Nissan AC pero pero, hindi naman mahina AC nang Toyota. Hindi dapat deal breaker yan. Trust me.
3. Siyempre Toyota Hi-ace mas matipid. Malayo sa Nissan Urvan FC nila.
4. Tingin ko in the long run mas mura Nissan Urvan. But alaga sa oil filter at fuel filter lang need nang Toyota para matibay din makina. Sa ibang parts, mas mura Toyota kung replacements pag-uusapan. Mas madami din.
5. Puwede pero, pangit. Hindi yan designed dyan.
6. Hi-Ace siyempre. Urvan pupuwede lang kapag sobrang pangit fuel quality sa lugar niyo.
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May 25th, 2014 12:20 AM #6If you are not in a hurry, hintayin nyo na lang yung bagong NV350. Inuubos na lang nila ang inventories ng last gen Urvan at ilalabas na nila ang next gen Nissan Urvan (NV350).
Technologically, mas ok na ang new gen Urvan. The way I understand it it's the same engine but modernized and modified to be "Clean Diesel" and is fully Euro 4 compliant. Better FC as well. The Engine from the Hiace is still only just Euro2. Meron din syang Particulate filter so you can still use Euro2 or suspicious "dirty" diesel found on provinces w/o worries.
By 2016, all fuel stations should be Euro 4 compliant. Why settle for a non-Euro 4 engine? And who knows when will a politician start to implement to phase out non Euro-4 diesel engines. So, whether this is for the long-haul or you plan to sell after 5 years or so baka mahirapan na rin kayo maibenta yan as a 2nd-hand. Either that or the resale value would be significantly lower since it's only a Euro2 engine and perceived as a liability by the time you sell it.
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May 25th, 2014 02:28 AM #7mr. iceblue yup nakita ko na dito sa qatar yung nv350 halos ksing porma ng commuter, kaya lang yung look nya sa side parang hindi ako nagagandahan,
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May 25th, 2014 02:34 AM #8mr. ry tower salamat sa reply mo,
mga sir, go na ako sa hi ace commuter, aprove na rin ng bangko application ko,
anu pa po ba ang concern sa hi ace commuter? wala po kase ako sa pinas ngayon
ipapalabas ko lang a father ko.
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May 26th, 2014 12:54 PM #9
Power - Hiace
AC - Not sure as I dont know if the Commuter has the same AC vent layout as the Grandia and Super Grandia which are both good.
FC - Hiace
Maintenance - for the regular service quits lang. If you encounter fuel system problems or more complicated issues, the Urvan, being an oldschool diesel should be simpler to maintain in the long run.
Between the two, for personal use definitely Hiace as im happy with our Grandia but for business use or pangharabas, then id probably consider the Urvan more.
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May 26th, 2014 01:45 PM #10I don't own any of those vans, sir, pero based from my experiences in riding in them, as a passenger I would choose the Urvan.
If I will sit infront of the Commuter, ok lang. Pero the back is torture. Ang sikip ng leg room, ang tigas ng shocks. In fact I would prefer riding in the old Hiace Grandia kaysa sa Commuter. Nakakahilo.
The Urvan is better, well, way better for me. Mas maganda ang layout ng seats and legs have more room. Then ride is softer and parang akong dinuduyan.
Aircon, parang pareho lang in terms of coolness.
The only advantage of the Commuter for me is the looks. Mas gusto ko ang looks ng Commuter kaysa sa Urvan. No match ang Urvan for me in the looks dept. The Commuter has a boxy appeal na mas nagagadahan akong tignan kaysa sa looks ng Urvan na mukhang malamya. Then based from sitting in the front seat, parang mas matibay ang pakiramdam ko sa Commuter kaysa sa Urvan. Though I don't know the crash ratings of those vehicles, parang mas safe ang paki ramdam ko sa Commuter when I sat in the front seat.
Sa power, I haven't driven one but sa feel lang, parang mas malakas at mas mabilis mag accelerate ang Commuter either uphill or plain. Ang Urvan slow and steady and dahan dahan naggi gain ng momentum. Ang Commuter, ang bilis niya kaagad lalo kung mga 80 to 120 kph lang ang takbuhan.
So for me, if I want a passenger van, I would choose the Urvan. And I agree with sir vinj, for personal use, sa Commuter ako.
Well, the Grandia GL and Super Grandia are different story. If you put them in the picture, I wouldn't even look at the Urvan and Commuter.
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