Toyota GR Sport/GR-S

[foifoi05]

Toyota PH quietly introduces Corolla Cross GR-S for P1.774-M | TopGear PH

gawin nalang nila standard yung ganyang grille as a facelift even on the cheaper non hybrid variant, alisin nalang mga sporty tack-ons. Looks miles better.

[AG4]

same with the Corolla Cross.

pero sa byahe ko (+ subd namin) madalas ako makakita ng Cross and Rav-4)

naaawa nga ako sa sis ko.... QC-Bulacan, gusto nya ng Cross kaso wala pa syang nakikita na actual unit sa kalsada. pati Toyota Q. Ave walang demo unit.

Toyota sold 102 Rav4 units and 1539 Corolla Cross units in 2021.
*The Corolla Cross numbers, that's just 39 more units than the veteran EcoSports's 2021 total sales.

Now for the faster selling subcompact and compact CUVs/SUVs...
Geely Coolray: 3221 units sold in 2021
MG ZS: 4158 units sold in 2021
Ford Territory: 6881 units sold in 2021

[ice15]

Toyota sold 102 Rav4 units and 1539 Corolla Cross units in 2021.
*The Corolla Cross numbers, that's just 39 more units than the veteran EcoSports's 2021 total sales.

Now for the faster selling subcompact and compact CUVs/SUVs...
Geely Coolray: 3221 units sold in 2021
MG ZS: 4158 units sold in 2021
Ford Territory: 6881 units sold in 2021

the Corolla Cross (especially the hybrid) is not readily available sa Toyota.

in some cases, the wait is more than 2 months. madalas pa nga daw, you don't get to choose the color.

[AG4]

the Corolla Cross (especially the hybrid) is not readily available sa Toyota.

in some cases, the wait is more than 2 months. madalas pa nga daw, you don't get to choose the color.

If that's the case, the Corolla Cross GR-S variant might be a unicorn.

[Egan101]

Unless you’re a sucker for Toyota body kits, you’d wait for 2 months or more for a unicorn with not much to be impressed with.

For the same amount of money, a CRV 2.0L gas version would offer more space, comfort, and utility. If you want performance, get something with a more potent engine.


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[ice15]

I remember when we were looking at a Corolla Cross unit from a Toyota dealer.

They didn't have anything on display and the unit we were looking at was for delivery (they were detailing it and the owner will pick it up the next day)

The agent was pushing us to get an Innova or Fortuner instead as units are readily available.

[ice15]

2022 Toyota Corolla Cross GR Sport Hybrid now in PH | Autoindustriya

[ice15]

Toyota PH launching Corolla Altis GR Sport this month | Autoindustriya

[Egan101]

Toyota PH launching Corolla Altis GR Sport this month | Autoindustriya

This or the new Civic? The base Civic 1.5L turbo is priced at 1.29M.


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[ice15]

^for me... the sad part sa article is that discontinued na manual na Corolla.

the base 1.6 E is no longer offered with a six-speed manual.

[yapoy86]

sa segment ng altis medyo naiiwan ang toyota.. hehe

ganda ng bagong honda civic ha mas gusto ko yun design now.. siguro kasi may edad na hehe.. yung mazda 3 din elegant yung sedan..

[Egan101]

sa segment ng altis medyo naiiwan ang toyota.. hehe

ganda ng bagong honda civic ha mas gusto ko yun design now.. siguro kasi may edad na hehe.. yung mazda 3 din elegant yung sedan..

1.3M for a big compact sedan with a small engine and some body kits??? It’s asking for too much but a lot of people would get it. Marami dito sa atin may hard-on for body kits - all show and no go. Hehehe


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[AG4]

^for me... the sad part sa article is that discontinued na manual na Corolla.

It was bound to happen.

I guess the (shrinking) compact sedan segment's move upmarket made it pointless for them to keep the manual transmission. Buyers/ fleet buyers would rather get the cheaper Vios. I doubt Toyota was keeping the manual transmission for car enthusiasts.

[ice15]

It was bound to happen.

I guess the (shrinking) compact sedan segment's move upmarket made it pointless for them to keep the manual transmission. Buyers/ fleet buyers would rather get the cheaper Vios. I doubt Toyota was keeping the manual transmission for car enthusiasts.

agree, I was also wondering why they kept the manual version.

[jut703]

^for me... the sad part sa article is that discontinued na manual na Corolla.

We all want a manual on the internet but noone buys them in real life sans the fleet operators.

There are upmarket MTs available (GRY, 86, MX5, STi, CTR) for the well-to-do enthusiasts. The middle class car enthusiast market is too small for manufacturers to order MT versions of econoboxes. There’s always the used car market for those who cling to the stickshift.


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[ice15]

We all want a manual on the internet but noone buys them in real life

agree.

sana manual, pero in real life, automatic binili
sana may AUV (Adventure and Crosswind) pa, pero in real life, naka-Innova/Xpander/Avanza

[jut703]

agree.

sana manual, pero in real life, automatic binili
sana may AUV (Adventure and Crosswind) pa, pero in real life, naka-Innova/Xpander/Avanza

I had a manual Altis and a CVT Civic, the Civic was still way more fun than the Altis.

There’s a lot more to a fun car than just a stick shift. I was also mulling between a manual MX5 and an IS350, and the latter was more fun for me.

Different strokes for different folks, but the market in general has walked away from the MT.


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[yapoy86]

eh kasi nga lagi traffic.. pero sa ibang bansa yata mabenta pa din manual..

pero ako, i want a hilux 4x4 manual.. hehe

[Wh1stl3r]

Manuals used to be quicker than A/Ts a looong time ago. In those days most A/Ts only had 4 forward gears and M/Ts usually had 5. Aside from the additional driveline loss from having a slushbox vs a manual, the A/Ts also shifted slower. But nowadays manuals are actually slower vs CVTs, DCTs and modern 7/8/9/10 speed A/Ts. M/Ts no longer have the advantage they have because they now shift slower in comparison. And whatever power you save in less driveline loss is be negated by the additional ratios that modern automatics have. So from a performance standpoint no sense in getting the M/T.

[Egan101]

1M+ for an MT compact is a hard sell. Nobody would be interested. Dami na 2.0L MT compacts na introduce locally but Di talaga bumenta.

Accord 2.0L MT
Civic FD 2.0L MT
Focus 2.0L MT
Impreza 2.0L MT

For those interested in an MT compact with a bit of performance for an affordable price, any one of those would be something worth considering.


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