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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    grabe sila... they should be thankful that the r&d of toyota is good in designing car....

    in my own computation. the fair insurance should be ranging from 30k to 35k..

    as for the credit line in bpi. the rate that was given to me for 1year is 4.6% vs their in-house of 6.1..
    bka im considering the alterra as good replacement... they suck talaga..

    to think that i have purchase toyota cars(not just one but total of 11) from that agent in the past ..

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    #2
    By law, they cannot force you to get their insurance and financing. but then again, they can always bump you off for another more willing sucker. nasasayo na yun, principio o fortuner? la kang magagawa, law of supply and demand e, pero sana may control ang dti para di abusuhin.

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    #3
    I just talked with one of Toyota agents here in Batangas. They will prioritize daw customers who will take their in house financing. Harang to ah.

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    #4
    ang sama ng ugali ng Toyota dealers. buti na lang at di ako bibili ng fortuner, kasi wala akong pera

    andy

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    #5
    In addition... Kung san daw mas kikita ang Toyota yun ang prority. Sheesh!!! kasi daw IMV project yun. Kawawa naman tayong consumer kung ipipilit nila yun.

    At least honest yung nakausap kong sales agent.

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    #6
    I agree with you when you say that some Toyota dealers practice unscrupulous selling....taking advantage of the Fortuner's popularity.

    My family went to Toyota Quezon Ave. yesterday ready to place an order for the 4x2 variant. They were appaled that the Sales person was quite hesitant to give a brochure. My mom told the "Marketing Professional"..." Bibili ako ng sasakyan niyo na halagang 1 milyon pero brochure na nagkakahalagang 50-70 pesos eh di mo ko mabigyan?" This guy goes on to tell my mom that the waiting time of the Fortuner is now up to 1 YEAR which again earned her ire. Who in the right frame of mind will pay 1.2 M just for their vehicle only to enjoy the fruit of their hard earned money a year after. "Para niyong pinatulog ang pera ko". And it doesn't stop there. This guy then says that there is a way to get this car earlier and that is to purchase it through in-house financing & in-house insurance. The waiting time would now be 3 months. My mom wanted the guy to elaborate some more so he gave a computation for a 1 1/2 year financing term. The interest rate used by toyota amounted to a whopping 14%. Again, my mom was quick to react..."My bank could approve me of a car loan with the same period for around 7-8 % interest rate, is there a lower rate you could provide for this?
    These were the exact words of this so called Marketing Professional. " Naku Ma'am baka mahirapan po kayo na makuha kagad yung unit ninyo dahil BINIBIGYAN PO NG PREFERENCE YUNG MGA IN-HOUSE FINANCING & INSURANCE WITH A HIGH RATE. IN FACT, MERON NA PONG MGA NAGBAYAD NA IN FULL CASH KASO UUNAHIN PO MUNA ITONG MGA IN-HOUSE FINANCING! PUWEDE KO PO KAYO BIGYAN NG MAS MALIIT NA RATE PERO MEDYO MATAGAL PO ANG HIHINTAYIN NINYO AT BAKA UMABOT PA PO NG PASKO!

    My Mom had enough of it. She got the quotation for reference puposes & prepared to leave already. Tapos humabol pa ng hirit it agent nila. Sabi niya " O AYAN MA'AM, BINIGYAN KO KAYO NG BROCHURE KAHIT WALA PA KAYONG RESERVATION AH! This time around my dad just got pissed of already.
    "T__G I_A ninyo feeeling niyo ginto yang Fortuner niyo at pati yang brochure niyo eh isusumbat mo sa amin! " Then they immediately walked out very frustrated with this dealership!

    I just wish Toyota would read this and realize what goes around comes around! Just because they had a new car at the right place at the right time doesn't mean they can screw around with the buying public!

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    #7
    tsk tsk tsk...

    that's why I don't like buying "new" vehicles. like when the Rav4 first went on sale - the waiting time was also long. but after a year or so, they were the ones who were giving freebies & offering lower rates.

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    #8
    yup, medyo garapalan na nga yung sales tactics ng toyota dealers over that fortuner. although lahat naman ng dealers ganyan (lalo na honda nung unang labas yung gen2 cr-v) pag may hot item

    i went to Toyota QA and presented myself as seriously considering the fortuner. i asked the sales agent if it was true that the waiting time was 3 months, and he said, "naku oo ser, mahaba na yung pila. 14 units lang kasi yung allocation ng diesel per month per dealer, tapos apat lang sa gas. pero ser, kung gusto niyo talaga, magagawan ko ng paraan yan para 1 month lang! basta kailangan financing atsaka insurance, di pwedeng hindi... blah blah"

    hehe. too bad, next year ko nalang titingnan ulit yang fortuner pag medyo mas nahihirapan na silang mag fill ng quota, belat sila!

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    #9
    Huwag na kayong maniwala sa mga sales tactic na yan. Lumang istorya na yan. Tingnan niyo Kia Sorento ngayon, after only 3 months sila na nanliligaw ngayon. Wait for it to cool down mga 3 months, sigurado wala ng pila yan. Pag lumabas na ang Isuzu Alterra and Nissan Xterra, baka mas maaga pa mawalan ng pila.

    Tubong lugaw talaga sila sa financing kaya syempre, tatakutin ka nila ng isang taon na pila.

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    #10
    pera...pera ang mahalaga kahit anong brand pa hehe

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    #11
    good day po ask ko lang po magkano comprehensive insurance ng vios 1.3e sino po ang may alam?? kasi nalalakihan po ako magbabayad plng po ako sa price na 38,881 for 1 yr only tama po ba talga ang price?????salamat po

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    #12
    bilhin ko na lang yung pajero ni woodfire kaysa humarap ako ng bwisit na mga salesmen.

    the only people who can teach toyota to find some manners is the buying public. if you guys decline to purchase the fortuner because of these tactics, then baka magbago ugali nila. until may pila pa yung mga sasakyan nila, di yan sila magbabago.

    as a marketing man with a long term approach to selling, it is my opinion they shoud even be more kind and apologetic for the long waiting list. these are the people that you have to be nice to, kasi sila rin ang bubuhay sa iyo in the long run.

    andy

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    #13
    pero in reality hotcake pa rin yan...we r but a miniscule percentage of the potential fortuner buyers hehe

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    #14
    incidentally, yug Kia Sorento meron ding 2 to 3-month waiting time. yung may immediate availability lang yung base-model LX. apparently, they're having a hard time shipping in units from South Korea.

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    incidentally, yug Kia Sorento meron ding 2 to 3-month waiting time. yung may immediate availability lang yung base-model LX. apparently, they're having a hard time shipping in units from South Korea.
    yup...

    fast moving pa rin ang Sorento. according to a friend of mine, nagtataguan pa nga ng stocks ng Sorento sa dealership.

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    #16
    anyway, i'd probably sooner get the fortuner than the sorento hehe

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    #17
    Malaki kasi kita ng mga agent kapag in-house financing. Even sa insurance kumikita din sila. Pera pera lang talaga.

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    #18
    The reason why they do this was maliit lang ang kita nila per unit sold, when i bought my Innova, my agent said he earned very little only plus 5k for the company(dealer), that's why they told me to get my insurance from them or else my unit will be given to others, so esep esep agad dapat dito...

    SO Maybe the best thing to do is to dump Toyota for now and get Isuzu ALterra... Hehe..

    WBR,

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Innova_Boy
    The reason why they do this was maliit lang ang kita nila per unit sold, when i bought my Innova, my agent said he earned very little only plus 5k for the company(dealer), that's why they told me to get my insurance from them or else my unit will be given to others, so esep esep agad dapat dito...
    and you actually believed him? 5K / unit... come on...

    in the case of Ford, the commission of the dealership is around P100K per Expedition.

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    #20
    Kung maganda lang talaga ang Alterra yun na lang ang pipiliin ko. Well, that's just me.

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