Suzuki or Subaru?

[yebo]

I was looking for a possible coding car and I came upon these 2. A 2014 Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.4 4wd and a 2011 Subaru Forester 2.0 AWD. Almost the same price. Which one would you choose? Why?

Going japanese this time. Still a big if though.

[GTi]

I was looking for a possible coding car and I came upon these 2. A 2014 Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.4 4wd and a 2011 Subaru Forester 2.0 AWD. Almost the same price. Which one would you choose? Why?

Going japanese this time. Still a big if though.

I think the 2.4 Grand Vitara was only ever available locally in RWD form.

There are droves of GVs for sale. Some of them very new. And they sell for cheap. I wonder why...

I'd go with the Forester for this one. If I were in your shoes looking for a gas coding car, I'd go all the way and get the turbo variant. It will burn a hole in my wallet either way. Might as well enjoy myself. [emoji23]

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[StockEngine]

I think the 2.4 Grand Vitara was only ever available locally in RWD form.

There are droves of GVs for sale. Some of them very new. And they sell for cheap. I wonder why...

I'd go with the Forester for this one. If I were in your shoes looking for a gas coding car, I'd go all the way and get the turbo variant. It will burn a hole in my wallet either way. Might as well enjoy myself. [emoji23]

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I think The GV is a gas guzzler kaya marami for sale...


the pre-2013 fb20 had some oil consumption issues... even if the 4at is ok. the engine might not be reliable in the long run. but if used 1x a week. maybe itll last forever...

[Walter]

The Suzuki Grand Vitara was also heavily discounted on it's last year or two before the all new model was released ...

Make sure to get the facelifted 2011-2012 Subaru Forester SH model ...

[Egan101]

I’d go with the Subie. How about looking at older generations of the CRV also?


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[yebo]

Oh i thought the 2.4 gv is 4wd. I even saw a 2016 model going for 550k with only 30kkm. Laki nga ng bagsak presyo ng gv that is why i am considering it. And wala naman ako nababasa na issue. I posted in case meron nga, like the oil consumption issue di ko nabasa yun.

Sa forester thread underpowered naman daw ang 2.0. Maganda sana yung 2.5xt kaso out of budget na. My absolute maximum limit is only 550k. I am looking nga sana in the vicinity of 450k only.

[yebo]

I’d go with the Subie. How about looking at older generations of the CRV also?


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Thanks for the suggestion but no. 2 reasons bro.
1, i am not a fan of honda's vtec. I've driven a 1.8s civic and i needed to rev to 3000+ rpm to get up a ramp. Hi revving low torque engine. Pass.
2, my coding car will also be my farm car. So i need something that can handle that. Only the vitara, jimny, forester, and 3-door pajero comes to mind. But the jimny and paj were vetoed by the other user since they were 3-doors.

[GTi]

Thanks for the suggestion but no. 2 reasons bro.
1, i am not a fan of honda's vtec. I've driven a 1.8s civic and i needed to rev to 3000+ rpm to get up a ramp. Hi revving low torque engine. Pass.
2, my coding car will also be my farm car. So i need something that can handle that. Only the vitara, jimny, forester, and 3-door pajero comes to mind. But the jimny and paj were vetoed by the other user since they were 3-doors.

Ah, so you need the 4x4? With the CRV, the 2.4 has torque. Have briefly driven the 3rd gen CRV 2.4 AWD. Basically the same engine also as our 7th gen Accord 2.4. Decent torque on the get go, and does not need to go beyond 2000rpm for a decent city pace (I have a pretty heavy foot). Very intuitive throttle response and transmission as well. Given also being a Honda that build quality is excellent and parts are easy to find.

For the GV, if you want 4x4, you'll have to go for the older 2.0 inline 4, 2.7V6, or the rarer 3.2V6.

Not a fan of the Nissan X-Trail?

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[Egan101]

Same with what GTi said, the CRV uses the K series engines like the Accord, not the R series on the Civic and L series of the City/Jazz. The 2.4L K24 has enough low rpm torque to give the CRV AWD some oomph. Ever considered a pickup for farm use?


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[yebo]

Same with what GTi said, the CRV uses the K series engines like the Accord, not the R series on the Civic and L series of the City/Jazz. The 2.4L K24 has enough low rpm torque to give the CRV AWD some oomph. Ever considered a pickup for farm use?


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Pass on the pickup. Too long, it won't fit in the garage. And UST parking.

Well if it's the v6 gv i will not mind the fc. As i said coding car only. The forester 2.5xt though is out of budget already.

Di ba viscous coupling pa din ang awd ng crv? So useless on sand or mud.

[GTi]

Pass on the pickup. Too long, it won't fit in the garage. And UST parking.

Well if it's the v6 gv i will not mind the fc. As i said coding car only. The forester 2.5xt though is out of budget already.

Di ba viscous coupling pa din ang awd ng crv? So useless on sand or mud.

Pass on the pickup. Too long, it won't fit in the garage. And UST parking.

Well if it's the v6 gv i will not mind the fc. As i said coding car only. The forester 2.5xt though is out of budget already.

Di ba viscous coupling pa din ang awd ng crv? So useless on sand or mud.

A pickup will fit in UST parking. We have a LWB Carnival. It is just as long as most pickups, and much wider. I've tried.

Gaano kalala ba ang off road conditions na plano mong isabak? Is it really that bad? Perhaps you can also check out off road videos of your prospects in Youtube to see how they fare.

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[yebo]

A pickup will fit in UST parking. We have a LWB Carnival. It is just as long as most pickups, and much wider. I've tried.

Gaano kalala ba ang off road conditions na plano mong isabak? Is it really that bad? Perhaps you can also check out off road videos of your prospects in Youtube to see how they fare.

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Half the time kasi it will be my wife who will use it. She did not like parking my bt50 pickup when we still had it.

During summers it is a loose gravel and dirt road. Rainy season it is manageable in most areas but there are a few stretches that really get muddy. But as long as you know where to thread (and don't slip off) you'll be ok. That is why i'm considering the vitara and forester over the other softroaders.

[dr. d]

i'm still wondering,
why TS put this in the toyota thread, when neither choice is a toyota...

[yebo]

^^ Ha? Sorry i thought i did go to the main car forum when i started the thread. My apologies sirs and maams.

[dr. d]

^^ Ha? Sorry i thought i did go to the main car forum when i started the thread. My spologies sirs and maams.

ok by me.
it was just a non-accusatory comment.
cars are cars, whichever page they are in.

[Walter]

No such thing as lifetime fluids in vehicles ... BMW and Mercedes owners learned this the costly way a decade or so ago ...

[Egan101]

Why not extend the budget a bit and get the Forester SJ platform? Used ones are being sold for less than 700k.


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[confused shoes]

I have both. The older 2.0L AWD Grand Vitara 2006 and 2017 Forester XT. Makupad ang 2.0L na Grand Vitara pero kung pang farm naman at gamit ni kumander, tamang tama lang. Matibay kahit tipid sa maintenance. Sa gas consumption? Parehas sila sa XT.

[GTi]

IMHO being primarily rear wheel driven and with a ladder frame chassis, the GV is the last true mainstream compact SUV (and not crossover). If off road prowess is the main priority, this would be on top of my list.

Just noticed that some 2009 Montero 4x4s are now going for 500+k. Have you considered this one? There's also the even cheaper 1st gen with the prehistoric 4M40.

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[Ry_Tower]

IMHO being primarily rear wheel driven and with a ladder frame chassis, the GV is the last true mainstream compact SUV (and not crossover). If off road prowess is the main priority, this would be on top of my list.

Just noticed that some 2009 Montero 4x4s are now going for 500+k. Have you considered this one? There's also the even cheaper 1st gen with the prehistoric 4M40.

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And 4wd is different from awd. If yebo can find a true 4wd vitara, that would be perfect for his needs.

Sayang di pwede 3door pajie eh.

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