Subic Hilux Surf

**parakitoJDM** · March 20th, 2006 10:34 PM

hi guys, my dad a 2nd. hand car to replace the tough running FX. though this one has more than double the mileage. it is ways leagues much better in over-all refinement. in things like All power + SunRoof and A/T, 4x4. do have some problems though like front tires uneven wear, not strong enough AC etc, and how to use the 4WD? what are the limits in speed of the 4L or 4H? would be happy to know if there are other Subic Hilux owners out there. or can anyone let me the link of other similar threads. thanks in advance.

**toyboxph** · March 21st, 2006 01:10 PM

you don't ever need to engage the 4wd on concrete roads. if your hi lux' 4x4 is part time 4wd system, never ever engage it on concrete roads. mapupudpod axle gears nun sa front wheel. and you don't really need 4x4 sa daily driving. lalakas lang consumption mo sa fuel. you will only need 4x4 on muddy roads, loose gravel, pulling trailers on dirt roads, inclines, basta abnormal situations lang. yung 4L setting ginagamit lang pag pulling trailers, pulling out of sticky, muddy roads on inclines. BOTTOMLINE: STAY ON 2H. Yung mga soft raoders like CRV, escape, outlander, rav4, pang snow and heavy rains lang yung 4x4 system nila. usually called all wheel drive or full time system - not for serious off roading. i believe yung hilux surf system is for offroading - part time with 4L.

**parakitoJDM** · March 21st, 2006 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by toyboxph

you don't ever need to engage the 4wd on concrete roads. if your hi lux' 4x4 is part time 4wd system, never ever engage it on concrete roads. mapupudpod axle gears nun sa front wheel. and you don't really need 4x4 sa daily driving. lalakas lang consumption mo sa fuel. you will only need 4x4 on muddy roads, loose gravel, pulling trailers on dirt roads, inclines, basta abnormal situations lang. yung 4L setting ginagamit lang pag pulling trailers, pulling out of sticky, muddy roads on inclines. BOTTOMLINE: STAY ON 2H. Yung mga soft raoders like CRV, escape, outlander, rav4, pang snow and heavy rains lang yung 4x4 system nila. usually called all wheel drive or full time system - not for serious off roading. i believe yung hilux surf system is for offroading - part time with 4L.

thanks ToBoxPH. can u let me know the recommended max. speed for each say 4L & 4H? eg. what if ur' threading up Baguio and its raining so the road is really slick. isn't it safer to use 4H mode?

**tebs** · March 21st, 2006 07:23 PM

it varies from vehicle to vehicle (re: max speed for 4H and 4L). you can just "feel" when the engine's speed is fast already for a given gear. just like when shifting on 2H.

you can use 4h and 4L, as long as you have manual locking hubs and it is set on free, on concrete roads. other than that, there will be parts that will be damaged.

going up baguio, you can put it in 4H, but don't lock the front hubs. baka lalo ka lang madulas. delikado. you can even put it in 4L pag di kaya umakyat. para more torque.

just remember, when on paved roads, always set front locking hubs to free. when you have an automatic kind. disregard everything i said. you must not use your 4H and 4L on paved roads.

**parakitoJDM** · March 21st, 2006 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by tebs

just remember, when on paved roads, always set front locking hubs to free. when you have an automatic kind. disregard everything i said. you must not use your 4H and 4L on paved roads.

sori more questions (i'm a newbie on 4WD vehicles), so since its Automatic transmission there's no front locking hubs?

**alwayz_yummy** · March 21st, 2006 10:31 PM

hubs are independent of the tranny..

pag auto-locking, ung front hub is either may nakasulat ng "auto-free hub" basta wala kang iikutin sa center ng front tires..other wise its a manual locking hubs...

coming from sa delica with auto-free hubs, ang disadvantage nga is the "binding" when in 4-wheel mode...theres no way of having 2L in a vehicle with auto-lock hubs... now that nga the advantage of the manual hubs

**tebs** · March 22nd, 2006 08:11 PM

try to look at your front tires. sa gitna ng wheels mo, tingnan mo kung may parang knob or switch dun na nakasulat- "free" and "lock"

pag wala, and may cover lang dun, most probably, you have an automatic locking hubs.

**parakitoJDM** · March 22nd, 2006 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by tebs

try to look at your front tires. sa gitna ng wheels mo, tingnan mo kung may parang knob or switch dun na nakasulat- "free" and "lock"

pag wala, and may cover lang dun, most probably, you have an automatic locking hubs.

i can't see anything written something like "free or lock".

**alwayz_yummy** · March 22nd, 2006 09:19 PM

basta pag may pwedeng maikot sa hubs mo, isa lang ibig sabihin nyan: manual hubs yan...

**tebs** · March 23rd, 2006 11:37 PM

pag wala, automatic hubs yan. don't use your 4H and 4L on concrete. you can only use it sa mga dusty, muddy, rocky/pebbly, grassy and other less traction surfaces.