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    I purchased a brand new INNOVA delivered on 26th June 2014.

    I noted there is a strange marking inside the plastic decorative part in front of the radiator in the first time I opened the hood.

    By common sense, such marking usually indicates a fault, or defect on a part which is rejected or to be repaired.

    I curious about why such marking exists in a brand new car, email with photos has been to Toyota Philippines for their comment, but the channel of communication seems blocked, no response has been received. Even the mobile no. 639297719600 shown the web page is unattended.

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    why not go back to the dealer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    why not go back to the dealer?
    +1

    too shorts

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    manufacturing instructions or markings?
    maybe the guy supposed to erase them, went for a bathroom break..

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    It's just some code. I often see that behind bumpers of brand new cars. Nothing biggie.

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    Mas nakakainis nga ang Mitsu. May Pentel marks lahat ng lug nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Mas nakakainis nga ang Mitsu. May Pentel marks lahat ng lug nuts.
    It's a mark para malaman nila if you removed the wheels, actually lahat ng nuts and bolts meron paint markings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    It's a mark para malaman nila if you removed the wheels, actually lahat ng nuts and bolts meron paint markings...
    Nakaka-OC kasi. Linis ng rims tapos may marka sa nuts . AFAIK only Mitsu marks its (lug) nuts :naughty2:

    Those are quality control marks actually just to double-check if kumpleto and tama ang parts na kinabit. May nakita pa akong Isuzu na may "Oil" then may katabing check sa diff nya.

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    May problem na bang nangyari related to that part since delivery date, 26th June 2014?

    Probably internal manufacturing code, part stock code, assembly code, etc. It does not automatically mean a defect.

    Just erase the marking if it bothers you.

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    maybe... production markings.

    QC markings. ie: dates of inspection, release, arrival of parts, etc.

    Part nos. / codes: also helps them to distinguish which parts will go together or
    what part should be attached to what part.

    no big deal... 'wag lang pentel marks at talagang ipabubura ko sa kanila.

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    I'm not saying it was aliens, but... it was aliens.


    Could be worse. In old US cars, workers used to leave paper build sheets and other such random stuff stuck to inside panels, to be covered up by insulation, under the interior paint, or sandwiched between steel parts.

    This is just a written inventory date (possibly for that batch of bumpers) that was left in a location where no owner would ever see it unless they got down on their hands and knees and looked underneath the car.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Solve for x=b2/11
    x=b/5.5 :D

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    I never saw similar markings in my previous cars and my new Wigo, but i have seen many markings such cross, circle, line drawn with pental pen in electronic circuit boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigT View Post
    I never saw similar markings in my previous cars and my new Wigo, but i have seen many markings such cross, circle, line drawn with pental pen in electronic circuit boards.
    same meaning.. manufacturing notes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigT View Post
    I never saw similar markings in my previous cars and my new Wigo, but i have seen many markings such cross, circle, line drawn with pental pen in electronic circuit boards.
    same meaning.. manufacturing notes..

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    Qc lang nila yan malamang.

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    try lang:

    acquired ang innova June 2014, markings says 11/26 or 11/29 which is more likely 2013 pa, new innova was released Q2 of 2014 (in between May to June 2014)

    Malamang naideliver yang mga yan November 2013 pa pero nailagay sa batch ng 2013 model na hindi pa dapat kaya minarkahan ng X kasi hindi pa nakarollout ang bagong innova.

    per my understanding lang and based sa nakikita kong sistema sa Sta. Rosa Plant.

    therefore, nothing serious - Hopefully, wala ka naman nakikita/nararamdamang issue.

    OT: every PMS ko sa Toyota nilalagyan ng pentel na white or liquid paper lahat ng lugnuts and bolt and nut na madadaanan ng maintenance service. nakakapagod ngang magbura.

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    Last edited by RomeoAlpha; February 2nd, 2015 at 11:02 PM. Reason: corrected some terms

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    if you really want to know, you can go to the plant and ask them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if you really want to know, you can go to the plant and ask them.
    I am in Visayas, I have tried to ask Toyota Philippines through email, but no response, even the mobile no. shown in their web page is unattended.

    All the parts are standarized, each has its part no. no need to do any marking by hand unless something unusual is noted, and if a fault was found in a particular part, worker can get a replacement easily, no need to mark it and put it back.

    The most suspicious/possible place where the marking was placed is the local dealer's workshop, if I go to ask them, the answer can only be perfunctory.

    Note: Please write in English, I can't read Tagalog.
    Last edited by bigT; February 3rd, 2015 at 12:34 PM. Reason: Note added

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigT View Post
    I am in Visayas, I have tried to ask Toyota Philippines through email, but no response, even the mobile no. shown in their web page is unattended.

    All the parts are standarized, each has its part no. no need to do any marking by hand unless something unusual is noted, and if a fault was found in a particular part, worker can get a replacement easily, no need to mark it and put it back.

    The most suspicious/possible place where the marking was placed is the local dealer's workshop, if I go to ask them, the answer can only be perfunctory.

    Note: Please write in English, I can't read Tagalog.
    i did say, "plant". not outlet, casa, salesroom, nor repair shop.
    i meant the facility that assembled the vehicle.
    and yes, my experience with company email and so-called dedicated phone lines, is also not happy.

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    ^Basically that.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigT View Post
    All the parts are standarized, each has its part no. no need to do any marking by hand unless something unusual is noted, and if a fault was found in a particular part, worker can get a replacement easily, no need to mark it and put it back.
    Having a simple delivery date on parts in a bin helps ensure that they use earlier batches first and don't mix them up on the line.

    And if the marking means there's a defect... that's a bumper. If your theory is correct, then there should be a paint defect on the outside of the X.

    Is there? Is it noticeable? From the pictures, it looks like a perfectly straight, perfectly smooth plastic bumper cover, to me. I wouldn't lose any sleep at all over it.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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