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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    oh you like that they scam other people, but not you

    how can you like a brand like that? that's specifically why i avoid toyota
    Just saying that I do not or will not follow Toyota if they implement an every 3 months PMS interval

    Basta ako 5t Kms or 6 months.

    And if they did implement, on a strict basis, maybe I'd stop buying them.

    As far as I can see, they don't implement that crap.

    So everything's good.

    Unlike, Honda or Hyundai.

    Others' experience may vary, though.
    Last edited by leonleon; August 8th, 2018 at 03:53 PM.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    yes 2hrs per day.. but how about the weekends? mineral oils are good 100-150hrs according to henson*

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    Well, that's the average, basing on the current odometer reading and how many years the vehicle's been used and the average speed based on MID reading.

    Unfortunately, I don't keep detailed records.

    No time nor inclination.

    Hehehe.
    Last edited by leonleon; August 8th, 2018 at 03:54 PM.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    mineral oils are good 100-150hrs according to henson*

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    150 hours of use?

    So if I drive an average of 2 hours a day in metro traffic, the mineral oil is just good 75 days?

    Or 2.5 months?

    Hmmmm....

    20 kms per day average runs, in 2.5 months, 1500 kms.

    I have to change oil every 1500 kms, now.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    you didnt answer my question... ilang operatings hours for mineral oil?

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    i don't know, i'm not a tribologist

    my car maker specifies API-xx (mineral or otherwise, it doesn't specify) and change every 10,000km or 6mo whichever comes first when driving under non-"severe" conditions.

    so i just follow that. been doing that w/ several cars already. everything's been fine

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by leonleon View Post
    150 hours of use?

    So if I drive an average of 2 hours a day in metro traffic, the mineral oil is just good 75 days?

    Or 2.5 months?

    Hmmmm....

    20 kms per day average runs, in 2.5 months, 1500 kms.

    I have to change oil every 1500 kms, now.
    remove the coding day and weekends, 19-20weeks?

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    Last edited by StockEngine; August 8th, 2018 at 10:21 PM.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    how many hours can you use mineral oil? 100? 200? 300? say a 4liter sump

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    sirit na! (share it already, please!).
    excited na kami sa sagot.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sirit na! (share it already, please!).
    excited na kami sa sagot.
    no answer from toyota about the hours...

    one guy says 100-150 hrs (2005). but this was before api-sn thats required for some toyotas now. oils have indeed improved since then, see photo below.

    follow manufacturer recommendation.




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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    no answer from toyota about the hours...

    one guy says 100-150 hrs (2005). but this was before api-sn thats required for some toyotas now. oils have indeed improved since then, see photo below.

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    Are there any vehicles equipped with hour run meters? Counterpart of the odometer? That cannot be reset? We can talk all we want about the number of hours before oil needs to be changed, but unless we can monitor it accurately, everything is an exercise in futility, in my opinion. And there must be a good reason why car manufacturers don't put one -- the hour run meter -- in our cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Are there any vehicles equipped with hour run meters? Counterpart of the odometer? That cannot be reset? We can talk all we want about the number of hours before oil needs to be changed, but unless we can monitor it accurately, everything is an exercise in futility, in my opinion. And there must be a good reason why car manufacturers don't put one -- the hour run meter -- in our cars.
    maybe they did not think our edsa traffic could possibly exist.
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Are there any vehicles equipped with hour run meters? Counterpart of the odometer? That cannot be reset? We can talk all we want about the number of hours before oil needs to be changed, but unless we can monitor it accurately, everything is an exercise in futility, in my opinion. And there must be a good reason why car manufacturers don't put one -- the hour run meter -- in our cars.
    my elantra has an hour meter... whats your car? any info from your mid?

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Are there any vehicles equipped with hour run meters? Counterpart of the odometer? That cannot be reset? We can talk all we want about the number of hours before oil needs to be changed, but unless we can monitor it accurately, everything is an exercise in futility, in my opinion. And there must be a good reason why car manufacturers don't put one -- the hour run meter -- in our cars.
    the trailblazer has this feature, though not really sure if it can't be reset.
    even the total fuel consumed is being logged on its MID.

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    #32
    Ano ba iyan???



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    #33
    I'm due for 30k PMS for my Altis. I wonder how much it would cost I can't PMS outside because I have an in process warranty appeal

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    #34
    you can go to 1st post.. nanduon price

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    Not accurate. I was quoted P12,686.86 for my 25k PMS. I had to request my SA to remove unnecessary items/service to cut the bill in half.

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    #36
    I don't get the 30k check up charge:

    Php450 times 3.8 for Php 1,710???

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    Gasket & Oil filter charge are reasonable.
    Price of the 5w-30 oil (if synthetic/ semi synth) is reasonable (but I'll stick with mineral based)
    The misch Php 500 is probably the infamous "rags" etc. charge

    I'm not sure what "TSLC" stands for...
    The rest you can actually DIY*.


    *Actually, we do our own oil changes & filter replacements on our out of warranty cars.

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm due for 30k PMS for my Altis. I wonder how much it would cost I can't PMS outside because I have an in process warranty appeal

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    P3,562 for my Altis' 30k km PMS in Toyota BGC if you net out the unnecessary stuff.

    Actual invoice was P6,195 since I let my SA charge all the unnecessary stuff (brake stop squeal, engine detailing) then I had wheel alignment and rotation pa.

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    P3,562 for my Altis' 30k km PMS in Toyota BGC if you net out the unnecessary stuff.

    Actual invoice was P6,195 since I let my SA charge all the unnecessary stuff (brake stop squeal, engine detailing) then I had wheel alignment and rotation pa.

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    True. If you just love driving and dont mind about maintenance, it will really cost one a massive "chunk" of cash. I grew up in a car shop and do most of the PMS... PMS is the cash crop & milking cow of most casas in the Philippines.. unless, of course, if your unit is a lemon, then its a different story. havent had problems with my cars maintained at home.. I just get the OEM parts then install them at home...

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