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    toyota naka 3 models na ng AUV (Tamaraw FX -> Revo > Innova)

    yung isuzu naka 2 models na (Hi-Lander -> Crosswind)

    ang mitsu hindi pa pinapalitan ang adventure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    toyota naka 3 models na ng AUV (Tamaraw FX -> Revo > Innova)

    yung isuzu naka 2 models na (Hi-Lander -> Crosswind)

    ang mitsu hindi pa pinapalitan ang adventure!
    tama ka dyan pare ko, if u ask me Mitsu deserve what they're getting. We consumers deserve more than just facelift and cosmetic changes sa kotse. Konting R&D naman dyan Mitsu para umayos ang adventure. Sa sobrang tindi ng Mitsu magtipid sa development ng new models, binebenta pa nila brand new ang L300 van....ang lupit!! Only means one thing, tingin nila sa sa Phil car market basura kaya basura models nila dito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipstreamer
    tama ka dyan pare ko, if u ask me Mitsu deserve what they're getting. We consumers deserve more than just facelift and cosmetic changes sa kotse. Konting R&D naman dyan Mitsu para umayos ang adventure. Sa sobrang tindi ng Mitsu magtipid sa development ng new models, binebenta pa nila brand new ang L300 van....ang lupit!! Only means one thing, tingin nila sa sa Phil car market basura kaya basura models nila dito.


    The Adventure is still selling. It is still a very good buy. One way to look at it is the Adventure design continued to meet the competition head-on in all of its past flavors - FX/Revo and Highlander/Crosswind... not until the Innova. True, Toyota has taken a leap with Innova pero I think Mitsu may have done the right thing in waiting for a breakthrough from the competition before they release theirs. In as far as the Revo and Crosswind, they may have never necessitated the need to change the Adventure entirely - not like the Innova.

    I can be wrong. If after the Innova they still stick with it, then...

    PS. And by the way, I don't think cosmetic lang yung naging changes ng Adventure. Check the changes in suspension, seat comfort, temp insulation and noise/vibration reduction. Hindi lang grill/front facia ang pinalitan po.

    Ano nga kaya ang ipapalit nila sa Adventure? I think its really a model change this time. Could it be the new Asian SUV that they've hinted on in the news some months back?
    Last edited by RafRaf; September 27th, 2005 at 01:20 PM.

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    siguro ang target market na ng innova ay mpv segment...di na auv..for in comparison with the grandis ang innova...parang ganun

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy
    siguro ang target market na ng innova ay mpv segment...di na auv..for in comparison with the grandis ang innova...parang ganun
    Diba yung counterpart ng Grandis eh yung Previa? Well anyway tumawag yung salesman ng Diamond Motors samin the other day inooffer yung Grandis (1.4M) and Montero (1.5+M) eh di pa naman kami bibili.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Diba yung counterpart ng Grandis eh yung Previa? Well anyway tumawag yung salesman ng Diamond Motors samin the other day inooffer yung Grandis (1.4M) and Montero (1.5+M) eh di pa naman kami bibili.
    for me kasi,previa is a minivan by nature..kasama nyan sa market ng sedona,town&country,L300s,etc..

    while the grandis is a sort of an mpv(multi-purpose vehicle) not a minivan..5+2 seats car with van-like utility,sort of a wagon..

    ang alam ko spacegear parin ang minivan ng mitsubishi.

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    Originally posted by boybi

    toyota naka 3 models na ng AUV (Tamaraw FX -> Revo > Innova)

    yung isuzu naka 2 models na (Hi-Lander -> Crosswind)

    ang mitsu hindi pa pinapalitan ang adventure!

    IMO, it's a good thing because it demonstrates the reliability of the design. Kaya lang it's also a bad thing because it's getting to be a dinosaur. Apart from the facelifts, it's showing a lack of innovation for their AUV/DFW (Dynamic Family Wagon) line. Then again, depende siguro sa bansa, kasi mas maganda yung features ng Freeca sa Taiwan kaysa Adventure dito.

    As far as the engine goes, I have no complaints on the 4D56, although a turbo option for the Adventure would be nice.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; February 16th, 2005 at 09:45 PM.

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    siguro di na papalitan ng mitsubishi ang adventure... yung L300 nga nila eh di pa rin napapalitan hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by revoGSX
    siguro di na papalitan ng mitsubishi ang adventure... yung L300 nga nila eh di pa rin napapalitan hehe..
    OT: L300 came out nung kinder pa ako, now am graduating college, meron pa rin, same body. Yung adventure kaya? pag may apo na ako? hehehhehe

    tama si mazdamazda, they will study the Innova and get ideas for the adventure replacement. Adventure btw came out 1998, 2nd year hs pa ako nun. Gosh, tagal na pala.

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    i luv detailing,
    alan ba yung name ng agent ng diamond motoprs? me din tinatawagan. told him i'd wait for the fortrunner n xterra b4 i decide.

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    KCBoy: Nakalimutan ko. IMO The Fortrunner looks good.

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    San ba na conceptualize yung Innova? Sa Thailang ba? Wala bang R & D team yung Mitsu dito sa Asia? Kung paliitin na lang nila yung Grandis, palitan yung slidding door to standard doors, habaan ang hood, iksiin yung wheelbase, put a mivec engine, ayos all new Adventure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    San ba na conceptualize yung Innova? Sa Thailang ba? Wala bang R & D team yung Mitsu dito sa Asia? Kung paliitin na lang nila yung Grandis, palitan yung slidding door to standard doors, habaan ang hood, iksiin yung wheelbase, put a mivec engine, ayos all new Adventure!!!
    if my memory serves me right, sa indonesia naconceptualize ang innova, correct me if am wrong

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    innova's classification is wagon/suv ata eh. i just talked to a salesman yesterday and he said that hindi na raw AUV ang category ng innova. i think this is because of the excise tax being imposed on AUVs. ginagaya ng toyota ang style ng CR-V so they can lower their prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wac3
    innova's classification is wagon/suv ata eh. i just talked to a salesman yesterday and he said that hindi na raw AUV ang category ng innova. i think this is because of the excise tax being imposed on AUVs. ginagaya ng toyota ang style ng CR-V so they can lower their prices.
    MPV / Wagon na po ang Innova IMO.

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    Wac3: Mmm... Diba yung Innova 10 seater din? So I don't see they can find a loophole in the excise tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Wac3: Mmm... Diba yung Innova 10 seater din? So I don't see they can find a loophole in the excise tax.
    It is an 8 seater. Wala na maglalabas ng 10 seater (na siksikan). The tax loophole has already been plugged shut.

    Motioncars has categorized the Innova as a minivan. Same league as the Grandis.

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    Teka muna, verified ba yan. Ang hina naman ng intelligence ng Mitsu kung executives mismo ang pupunta sa Toyota.

    Anyway, gawain din ng company namin ang reverse engineering lalo na ang competitor namin ay ahead sa amin ng 10 years. In the end, we produced a product with similar capability but at cheaper price. Ang problem namin ay ang market share dahil huli na nga kami.

    I hope Mitsu will replace the Adventure soon with better engines, MIVEC and 4M41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker
    Teka muna, verified ba yan. Ang hina naman ng intelligence ng Mitsu kung executives mismo ang pupunta sa Toyota.
    yup, verified. sabi ng cousin ko who works at Toyota Otis, nagorder daw mga mitsu executives ng innova.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    yup, verified. sabi ng cousin ko who works at Toyota Otis, nagorder daw mga mitsu executives ng innova.
    Well I think it's a bad move by Mitsu It may result in bad publicity for them. Bakit kasi hindi na lang sila gumamit ng ibang tao.
    Last edited by Skywalker; February 17th, 2005 at 01:49 PM.

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