Innova gas or diesel for the second time

**chyll2** · June 26th, 2014 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by kimpuy30

According to my uncle parang "lethargic" daw ang gas variant ng Innova kapag ginagamit nya for long drives (ex Manila - Olongapo). True po ba mga sir?

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lethargic is a correct word to describe it if sanay na yung driver sa Diesel engine. I myself looks for the torque. Parang may kulang everytime I try a gasoline SUV

**kimpuy30** · June 26th, 2014 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by chyll2

lethargic is a correct word to describe it if sanay na yung driver sa Diesel engine. I myself looks for the torque. Parang may kulang everytime I try a gasoline SUV

My uncle is not a fan of diesel powered automobiles sir. Never sya bumili ng diesel cars since his first car in mid 90s according to him.

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**vvti2.0** · June 26th, 2014 06:55 AM

Di sya lethargic in long drives, lethargic sya in city drives due to the throttle delay ng drive by wire, di lang sa gas ito evident kahit sa diesel ng innova.. Kung highway drive, wala ihahabol ang d4d sa VVTi na innova.. pero yun nga, wala yung sudden kick na feeling mo ambilis, and siempre yung malakas na tunog ng makina na feeling natin ambilis na ng takbo ng diesel hehehe...

**Lew_Alcindor** · June 26th, 2014 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by kimpuy30

My uncle is not a fan of diesel powered automobiles sir. Never sya bumili ng diesel cars since his first car in mid 90s according to him.

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Let him try a diesel vehicle. Iba na din diesel vehicle ngayon lalo na yung D4d, CRDi, and the likes. Emission levels have improved because of technology.

I am not really bothered by the throttle lag or turbo lag even when trying to overtake. I make sure I have enough space plus some allowance when overtaking.

**vvti2.0** · June 26th, 2014 01:19 PM

Iba yung throttle lag sa turbo lag sir, yung throttle lag, walang response talaga yung makina for around 2 to 3 seconds pag apak mo hehehe....

Napansin ko sa D4D and VVTi ng innova, halos parehas lang ang takbo ng dalawa, response ng engine ganun rin, wala lang yung sudden kick ng D4D sa VVTi pag apak mo, pero after the sudden kick, yung usad parehas na..

**homhomnova** · June 26th, 2014 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Terrence

If given the second chance to buy an innova, what will you choose gas/diesel variant and m/t or a/t ? I just need your inputs guys on this. thanks.

naiingayan ako sa diesel at malakas ang vibration ng makina ng diesel lalo na pag high rpm.. kaya gas pa rin ako.. better riding comfort and less headache pag nagkaka edad na.. eversince gas ang sasakyan ko at happy pa naman ako so far..

Kung magdi diesel man ako mas gusto ko yung old school diesel kse yun talaga ang subok na matibay.. yung mga bago ngayon na crdi though maganda sya pagbago pero masyadong sensitive..

**Lew_Alcindor** · June 26th, 2014 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by vvti2.0

Iba yung throttle lag sa turbo lag sir, yung throttle lag, walang response talaga yung makina for around 2 to 3 seconds pag apak mo hehehe....

Napansin ko sa D4D and VVTi ng innova, halos parehas lang ang takbo ng dalawa, response ng engine ganun rin, wala lang yung sudden kick ng D4D sa VVTi pag apak mo, pero after the sudden kick, yung usad parehas na..

Yes I know. I am still not bothered by throttle lag. Exaggeration naman at yung 2 to 3 seconds na lag. May sira na yun kung ganun.

**Lew_Alcindor** · June 26th, 2014 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by vvti2.0

Iba yung throttle lag sa turbo lag sir, yung throttle lag, walang response talaga yung makina for around 2 to 3 seconds pag apak mo hehehe....

Napansin ko sa D4D and VVTi ng innova, halos parehas lang ang takbo ng dalawa, response ng engine ganun rin, wala lang yung sudden kick ng D4D sa VVTi pag apak mo, pero after the sudden kick, yung usad parehas na..

Yes I know. I am still not bothered by throttle lag. Exaggeration naman at yung 2 to 3 seconds na lag. May sira na yun kung ganun.

**shibby75** · June 26th, 2014 03:01 PM

Drove a d4d innova for a week, masarap sa traffic pero nakakapagod ang vibration sa kambyo and blows a bit of black smoke whenever i floor it sa nlex and the mileage is just 15k,i use unioil euro4 diesel.

Sa city mas matipid ng konti. Sa hiway parehas lang. Pero pagdating ng 100 mejo mabagal na accelerate and ramdam na vibration. And yes, gas is definitely faster sa hiway. Natutulog kasi ako sa kotse kaya ayoko ng maalog.

If the next innova is better, id still go with gas, better if its 2.7 dual vvti.

Nangyayari lang sa vvti ko ang major lag pag kinargahan ko ng unleaded. Lalo na kung unleaded ng core oil,tiger or any unleaded ng mga gasolinahan na pang taxi.

**basti08** · June 26th, 2014 03:14 PM

I have an Innova VVT-i in my office as my service. 1st owned. That thing is almost maintenance free. Oil change lang not even the spark plugs are replaced often pero same pa din takbo. 95tkms, still running on original clutch, original fuel filter, original radiator coolant from Toyota (red liquid), spark plug changed twice palang, gear oil replaced once, etc. Could run 170-180kph. I take it anywhere, walang katakot takot na may masisira (although nagpalit nako cooling coil ng AC, that's about it). Last time may nag vibrate akala ko kung ano na, hindi lang pala na-lock ng maigi lagayan ng air filter (after that OK na). Consumes 8km/l, but I frequently travel alone naman. It has thread the whole of Luzon already. Very durable car. I don't know if the much more fuel efficient D4d is about as cheap to maintain cos it has turbo, CRDi with very delicate injectors etc.