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    which is better, im looking to purchase an a/t gas or diesel, what is the approx fuel economy of both? Im originally considering the diesel version because of its fuel economy but Ive read and heard horror stories about the d4d. is the d4d worth the risk? inputs would be greatly appreciated. thanks

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    Why on earth would you risk that much money on something that:

    1.) You know has problems with many victims attesting to the veracity of the defect.

    2.) Very high probability of giving you headaches (and possibly death due to an accident).

    Why??

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    I mean, really?
    Last edited by Horsepower; September 19th, 2008 at 01:56 AM. Reason: double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    I mean, really?
    go with the gas variant, better be safe than sorry, anyways the gas and diesel pump price as of now are close, in some fuel station the gas is lower than diesel price

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    i average around 8.3kms/liter (city) for a gas innova. if that is acceptable to you then get a gas version. otherwise find a different diesel fed car.

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    Mas mura ang gas variant kaysa sa diesel variant.

    But mas malakas ang torque ng diesel kaysa sa gas at kung walang problem, mas maganda ang FC ng diesel kaysa sa gas variant.

    maintenance cost, malamang mas mababa sa gas variant.

    Kung laging kargado or laging long trips, siguro get the diesel variant na lang.

    Depende kung ano talaga ang main purpose ng vehicle na kukunin mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    I mean, really?
    the d4d is really that bad huh? the reason why im considering it is its supposed fuel economy advantage over the gas counterpart, what i want to know is how much of an advantage it has. plus based on reviews, the d4d is better than the vvti engine, and diesels are supposed to be more flood proof than the gas engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakin View Post
    i average around 8.3kms/liter (city) for a gas innova. if that is acceptable to you then get a gas version. otherwise find a different diesel fed car.
    is your innova a/t or m/t? if its a/t youf figures are pretty good and i might just get the vvti variant. the reason why im hesitant to get the vvti is its fuel economy, i dont want another gas guzzler in my garage hehehe, my expedition only averages 3-3.5km/liter so im pretty ok with an innova gas a/t that averages 7-8km/liter in the city

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    get the gas variant . . mas tahimik ang engine.

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    I faced such delima when our family were choosing bet Gas over D4D Diesel, since this D4D issue was not totally resolve . So we opted for 2.7 Gas Fortuner Peace of Mind We can never tell something might happen after the warranty period

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    hmm.. looks like its gas for me then, how much of a difference in fuel consumption on d4d and vvti? assuming both are automatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    hmm.. looks like its gas for me then, how much of a difference in fuel consumption on d4d and vvti? assuming both are automatics.
    Based on some user feedback 2.7 Gas 6-8kms/liter then 2.5 D4D 9-12kms/liter

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    siguro 2 to 3 km/l yung diff nung 2 assuming na pareho yung driving style... sa nababasa ko kasi sa diesel parang naghihintay na lang ng countdown na magloko... pero sana naman hindi since mas madaming diesel innova kesa sa gas... pano kaya pag wala ng warranty tapos dun lumabas yung stalling at black smoke na problema... sakit sa ulo nun....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    is your innova a/t or m/t? if its a/t youf figures are pretty good and i might just get the vvti variant. the reason why im hesitant to get the vvti is its fuel economy, i dont want another gas guzzler in my garage hehehe, my expedition only averages 3-3.5km/liter so im pretty ok with an innova gas a/t that averages 7-8km/liter in the city
    my innova is m/t. daily route is antipolo -> makati (vice versa)

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    2.0 gas na pipiliin ko (m/t syempre ) dahil appropriate naman ang consumption niya dahil me power naman at 136 / 5,600 ps/rpm.

    kung above 2.0 choices, back to diesel ako.

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    Bratski,

    What are you thinking of? Have'nt you read my thread here about black smoke??? You don't have to choose anymore about getting a gas or diesel.... GET A GAS VARIANT

    We were at the same delema before on getting a gas or diesel and to think that gas variant has a greater discount in terms of pricing than diesel.

    I hope that you wont make a mistake just like my wife and i did....

    God Bless!

    Din

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    kailangan ba talaga ng innova?
    kung diesel ang trip mo why not put the excellent KIA carens on the equation?

    kung fuel economy hanap mo. mag gas ka tapos magpa LPG ka na lang hehehe pero parang hindi ata bumababa price ng LPG ano?

    as for flood-fording...how often do you encounter floods in a year anyways? and kung meron man,sisisid ka ba? kahit ba diesel dala mo? do you have the guts to do that? knowing na anytime pwede kang itirik sa gitna ng tubig? hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbullz View Post
    kailangan ba talaga ng innova?
    kung diesel ang trip mo why not put the excellent KIA carens on the equation?

    kung fuel economy hanap mo. mag gas ka tapos magpa LPG ka na lang hehehe pero parang hindi ata bumababa price ng LPG ano?

    as for flood-fording...how often do you encounter floods in a year anyways? and kung meron man,sisisid ka ba? kahit ba diesel dala mo? do you have the guts to do that? knowing na anytime pwede kang itirik sa gitna ng tubig? hahaha
    the carens has low ground clearance, im not really after terrific fuel economy, 7-8km/liter on a 2.0 innova vvti gas engine is good enough for me. regarding the floods, lets put it this way, everytime it rains my the roads around my place floods to knee level. and it takes 6-8 hrs before the floods subsides. and my place is not in the malabon area pa.

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    Buy the gas variant, believe me.

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    just to update you guys, I purchased an 05 innova gas a/t a few days agi.thanks pala sa mga inputs

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