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  1. Join Date
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    Hi Guys,

    I wanted to buy a new Toyota Innova D4D but I'm little bit confused between the manual and automatic variants. Can you guys give me some info regarding the performance, power, comforts between the two? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jraf_zams2 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I wanted to buy a new Toyota Innova D4D but I'm little bit confused between the manual and automatic variants. Can you guys give me some info regarding the performance, power, comforts between the two? Thank you.
    M/T if hindi ka lagi sa traffic, pero kung ma-traffic sa inyo, much better off with AT ka na lang. Maintenance and FC wise, much better ang MT. READ this thread: http://tsikot.com/forums/car-compari...-t-vs-t-35699/
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    Depends on your preference.

    If you can live through MM by driving a stick, then by all means get one. However, if you cant, then get the A/T.

    Pakiramdaman lang yan eh.

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    #4
    personal preference. sa M/T ako

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    M/T if hindi ka lagi sa traffic, pero kung ma-traffic sa inyo, much better off with AT ka na lang.
    heritage mazda

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    if you want PERFORMACE and COMFORT...Innova A/T is my vote...IMO..

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    For highway drive i believe the AT has the adventage over the MT in terms of FC since since the last gear of the AT is better. You can run faster at a lower rpm.

    In yerms of the first 2 gears of the AT innova, im quiye surprised with the good gearing set done by toyota compared to other brands. Its like driving a manual coz it shift gears below 2000rpm on a normal drive.

    The additional 60Nm for the AT is to compensate the power loss of transmitting the power to its wheel and comparing it with the manual i can say both have the same feel of torque in acceleration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aki0125 View Post
    For highway drive i believe the AT has the adventage over the MT in terms of FC since since the last gear of the AT is better. You can run faster at a lower rpm.

    In yerms of the first 2 gears of the AT innova, im quiye surprised with the good gearing set done by toyota compared to other brands. Its like driving a manual coz it shift gears below 2000rpm on a normal drive.

    The additional 60Nm for the AT is to compensate the power loss of transmitting the power to its wheel and comparing it with the manual i can say both have the same feel of torque in acceleration.
    Considering the model 2KD-FTV (Innova G):
    auto has higher torque than stick (260Nm vs. 200Nm) means auto accelerates quickly
    auto curb wt. is greater than stick (1,670kg. vs. 1,655kg.) means auto is heavier
    therefore, it depends on the driver's skill.
    actually, it's 50/50 since both auto and stick has the same PS.

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    Traffic - Traffic, I believe the A/T will return better results due to higher Torque figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by first_light View Post
    Considering the model 2KD-FTV (Innova G):
    auto has higher torque than stick (260Nm vs. 200Nm) means auto accelerates quickly
    auto curb wt. is greater than stick (1,670kg. vs. 1,655kg.) means auto is heavier
    therefore, it depends on the driver's skill.
    actually, it's 50/50 since both auto and stick has the same PS.
    btw, where is the additional 60Nm of torque coming from? is this from the engine tuned differently or this is because of the a/t system itself?
    am just thinking, if its from the engine then is it possible to re-tune the engine mated with m/t to get that additional torque?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aki0125 View Post
    For highway drive i believe the AT has the adventage over the MT in terms of FC since since the last gear of the AT is better. You can run faster at a lower rpm.

    In yerms of the first 2 gears of the AT innova, im quiye surprised with the good gearing set done by toyota compared to other brands. Its like driving a manual coz it shift gears below 2000rpm on a normal drive.

    The additional 60Nm for the AT is to compensate the power loss of transmitting the power to its wheel and comparing it with the manual i can say both have the same feel of torque in acceleration.

    nice inputs sir.

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    I have this issue with gate type matic trannies. Last week while travelling along roxas my wifes bag accidentally landed on the lever while we are travelling close to 100kph. From 4th gear or "D" it shifted "3". buti nalang mabagal lang takbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by aki0125 View Post
    I have this issue with gate type matic trannies. Last week while travelling along roxas my wifes bag accidentally landed on the lever while we are travelling close to 100kph. From 4th gear or "D" it shifted "3". buti nalang mabagal lang takbo

    It is good practice to drive with both your hands in the steering wheel. You might accidentally move the shift lever if your holding on the knob while driving.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by KinKyHOOTER View Post
    Guys sorry, my message may sound confusing.

    What I meant was since gated type yng A/T ng Innova, L - 2 - 3 - D = (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Gear)...basta naman tamang lipat ng lever sa tamang speed at RPM is fine.

    But diba if your running L till 80kph kawawa makina....or 140kph then bigla ma 3 mo....baka ma BUNGI ang transmission.

    Hehehehe
    Pero you cannot control the gear 1 and gear 2 during traffic not like Manual trannies...

    kung ilalagay mo sa 2... ang mangyayari ay 1 and 2 gear lang ang gagamitin nya hindi 2nd lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aki0125 View Post
    I have this issue with gate type matic trannies. Last week while travelling along roxas my wifes bag accidentally landed on the lever while we are travelling close to 100kph. From 4th gear or "D" it shifted "3". buti nalang mabagal lang takbo
    kaya bawala ang mga malilikot pag mabilis na ang takbo... Specially bata pinagbabawalan ko sa harap umupo.

    Minsan pag may bata dalawa lang ang mangyayari, mapunta sa D or N.... masisira din ba pag mapunta sa N during 100km/h?

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    From Drive to Neutral, no problem at all. But from Drive to 3, if it is running at high speed definitely there will be some damages both in the engine and tranny

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    Its mandatory to place a child at the back seat with a car seat if possible for safety purposes

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    Drive to neutral basically just disconnects the driveshaft. Much like a manual shifting from a certain gear to neutral, or just plain letting go of the throttle with matic tranny at higher speeds. Drive to 3 wala namang problema kung normal cruising speed lang naman. Our Revo diesel can run up to 80km/h using 3rd gear * 4000rpm. 5 speed tranny yan so even narrower spacing of gears. So its safe to assume that your engine will not blow up if you run 3rd gear at 100km/h with a 4 speed tranny. Just don't let that happen on a top speed run.

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    Lately nakapag try ako ng matic na innova d4d. And yes its more fun to drive the manual yet more relaxing to drive the matic. Both 2.5 L engines.

Which is better 2011 Innova D4D A/T or Manual Tranny