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    Toyota! [emoji385][emoji389][emoji389][emoji389][emoji23]


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    With a base price of almost 1.6M, it might be yielding the UV Express and corporate fleet market to the NV350.

    They badged it as Commuter "Deluxe". Perhaps the old cab-over Commuter will still be available?

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    The UV Express drivers are going to have a blast driving this thing.

    Un ngang 102 hp Hiace can run effortlessly even with full load, how much more this all new with 163 & 172 hp engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    With a base price of almost 1.6M, it might be yielding the UV Express and corporate fleet market to the NV350.

    They badged it as Commuter "Deluxe". Perhaps the old cab-over Commuter will still be available?

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    I think they'll probably offer the old Commuter alongside the new model. Price gap is too big for UV Express use.

    Do the old Grandias already have Macpherson struts up front? Kinda bummed about the rear suspension. Still a leaf spring setup. Hope it's at least as soft as the NV350's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    I think they'll probably offer the old Commuter alongside the new model. Price gap is too big for UV Express use.

    Do the old Grandias already have Macpherson struts up front? Kinda bummed about the rear suspension. Still a leaf spring setup. Hope it's at least as soft as the NV350's.
    double wishbone sana...

    for the multilink rear... Maybe Mitsu will bring in the Delica?
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    mahal din 2.2M for TOTL





    hinayang na sana ako coz we just got the new Starex facelift for the fam, may TV na daw ba sa likod yan at captain seats na ba? kasi Starex 2M flat lang may tV and captain seats na.

    lately kasi di ako gano nag-drive, di driver lang ako angkas pasundo sa Van namen, parang ang Sarap din ng feeling nood nood lang tapos baba ka na lang sa destination, tapos sakay pag paalis na. Sarap din pala byahe pag van, relax lang

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    nyeh di pale captain seats yan saka hinde leather sa 2.2M



    as compared to similar to this photo with the new HARI facelift Starex


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    mukhang overpriced but marami pa rin bibili.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneyp View Post
    mukhang overpriced but marami pa rin bibili.
    yeah probably true. and if the pictures are correct 2.2m will only buy you steel wheels and hub caps. dapat mags na at this price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    mahal din 2.2M for TOTL





    hinayang na sana ako coz we just got the new Starex facelift for the fam, may TV na daw ba sa likod yan at captain seats na ba? kasi Starex 2M flat lang may tV and captain seats na.

    lately kasi di ako gano nag-drive, di driver lang ako angkas pasundo sa Van namen, parang ang Sarap din ng feeling nood nood lang tapos baba ka na lang sa destination, tapos sakay pag paalis na. Sarap din pala byahe pag van, relax lang
    Ano iyong sa aux lamps niya,- DRL sa ibabaw, at foglamps sa ilalim?

    Paangasan pa rin ng mukha ang mga bagong sasakyan ngayon....

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    if they move 2000 units in a month and over priced by .5m

    thats 1B 😱 monthly. thats just one model

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    Dadapa yan kung coil sprung ang likod. So logical choice should be leaf springs. The Old Grandia LXV was already 2M, outdated platform and all. At least ito bago na mas justifiable ang price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1 View Post
    Dadapa yan kung coil sprung ang likod. So logical choice should be leaf springs. The Old Grandia LXV was already 2M, outdated platform and all. At least ito bago na mas justifiable ang price.


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    Is it really the coils that are the culprits sa pagdapa? Pwede naman kasi gumamit sila ng coilsprings with a much higher load capacity. . .. yun elf ko has a relatively soft ride when unladen. . . Kaso pag kinargahan dapa na. . . So we just added additional leaf springs. . Tumigas pero served its purpose na

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1 View Post
    Dadapa yan kung coil sprung ang likod. So logical choice should be leaf springs. The Old Grandia LXV was already 2M, outdated platform and all. At least ito bago na mas justifiable ang price.


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    Dumadapa pag hindi matched sa GVW kahit leaf springs bro. GS is a good example of well matched springs. Ride and handling are good with a light or full load as long as you adjust tire pressure to match. It still has enough suspension travel when fully loaded.

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    for me, ok naman yung rear leaf spring suspension ng SG unit. at full pax capacity saka mga bagahe di naman dapa. i wonder gaano kabigat ang isasakay sa van at bakit dadapa[emoji849] buy a pick-up if you need to haul heavy loads[emoji2960] ride comfort sa likod no idea at sa captain seat naman ako palagi umuupo (kung may driver)

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    i wonder gaano kabigat ang isasakay sa van at bakit dadapa[emoji849] buy a pick-up if you need to haul heavy loads[emoji2960]

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    ang la lalaki ng mga Pilipino ngaun mapa babae o lalake, parang sinlaki na nila mga Hawaiian.

    really makes me wonder sayang yun mag itsura nila nun payat sila, ngaun sa FB halos lahat magkakamuka na bilog na bilog and muka , parang mga balloon na di-nrawing ng pentel na muka

    kitang-kita naman sa Nissan Urvan na pamasada, bagsak kagad itsura la pa 1 year

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    Pwede naman. Pero syempre the thicker you make the coils, ride naman ang mag suffer. Perfect example was the 2nd gen “10 seater” CR-V who got beefier coils in anticipation of 10 people.

    15 seater ang nakita kong minimum seats ng bagong Hiace. Definitely kahit gaano kakapal na coil spring hindi kakayanin ung fully laden weight ng 15 persons + cargo.


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    There are dual rate coil springs naman. In the Australian market NP300 it can carry the same payload as a leaf sprung pickup while maintaining ride quality laden or unladen. It doesn't get compressed that much when fully loaded either.

    I just think there's a disconnect with the supposedly higher end models having a car like front end (Macpherson struts) and a leaf sprung rear.

    For the Commuter model it's par for the course I guess.

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    I think the Grandia Tourer was introduced to take on the View Traveller, since the LXV too upscale to compete.

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    PH market got robbed of features. Other markets gonna get 9 airbags, Toyota safety sense. To think we're the largest market outside Japan for this vehicle.

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