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    TOYOTA COROLLA 1.6Gli 1997 model

    I just had my toyota checked in a Petron Auto Shop and they saw, i have to say, a lot of problems.
    so may i just ask for help from you guys.

    1st are tires.
    I have to replace my tires.
    all four of My tires are with specs, 185/65/R14 86V CHAMPIRO GTX-65.
    May I know what are the best tires now, at the range of P4k each (lower the better)
    And where can I buy here in Manila.


    The auto shop gave me an estimate of the things I have to repair.
    I hope to get an opinion from you guys, and maybe help me out where can i buy the parts they said i needed to buy.

    2 TIE ROD P1430
    2 PACK END P2210
    2 LOWER SUSPENSION BUSH BIG P910
    1 HI-TENSION WIRE P1500

    LABOR - P2580
    WHEEL ALIGNMENT - P450
    CAMBER - P800

    That's the estimate the head mechanic gave me.
    I know you guys think that some, or all, of these are priced high.
    Maybe you could point me where i can buy these materials and maybe i could just have them do this and pay labor.
    Or maybe i could just go to another auto shop, very reliable (with positive review from you experts) and with low material and labor prices?

    THANKS SO MUCH FOR the future help.

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    Bridgestone Turanza for your tires. I've used them before on my Corolla and they're pretty good. You can also opt for Dunlops. Or the cheaper Korean brands, not sure tho if they have 14s.

    Call up TOYORAMA in Banawe and ask for the prices for the said parts. They only carry genuine Toyota parts. But then, I'd rather pay big now then not have any problems soon than pay cheap now then pay again a year after.

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    The Yokohama ASPEC are very good budget tires if you don't want to try the cheaper Chinese/Korean brands.

    I'd give them a look. Expect ~3k per tire.

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    where's the best wheel dealer here in manila? with alignment. they do that right? if you buy tires, they'll give wheel alignment for free right?
    i'm leaning towards bridgestone or yokohama, can't decide. i have to buy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiacutie View Post
    where's the best wheel dealer here in manila? with alignment. they do that right? if you buy tires, they'll give wheel alignment for free right?
    i'm leaning towards bridgestone or yokohama, can't decide. i have to buy now.
    Most often, what comes free is the wheel balancing and mounting. Alignment can come separate depending on the company.

    I've canvassed between Bridgestone Turanzas and the Yokohama ASPEC a few months back.

    The Yokohama ASPECs were cheaper by a bit. Ended up with those. Good quiet tires.

    You can give the dealers a call. Yokohama PH dealers. There's a small variance in terms of pricing amongst the dealers (I've called quite a few) though. Some dealers only sell tires. Others also do alignment. Better ask first.

    Be sure to ask for the manufacture date on the tires as the tires do have a 5 year recommended life span beginning on the date these were manufactured (though we often can stretch this to 10 years). The code is a series of 4 numbers indicating the week and the year of manufacture. So that said, a code of 1112 would mean that the tire was manufactured on the 11th week of 2012.

    Also, your original tires have the speed & load rating of 86V. Assuming these are the specifications of the tires that originally came with the car, you'd need the new tires to have the same specs or better.

    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by mda; August 20th, 2012 at 12:49 PM.

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    Ok din yokohama A drive. Yun binili namin para sa 14s ng vios namin. 3100 each with free balancing sa s&r.

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    for tires, sa blumentrit madami. bought goodyear nct5 a fee years back. around 2k lang noon. ngayon siguro 2500 na.

    for suspension, i bring my cars to zee or cruven to have the joints injected. better than buying replacements imho.

    for rubber bushings, dont use the fabricated from truck tires. just buy replacement bushings 300 lang yan sa banawe.

    i personally prefer zee.

    from your description, id alot about 5k for suspension problems (injected joints), 10k for 4 new tires and 1k for high tension wires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Most often, what comes free is the wheel balancing and mounting. Alignment can come separate depending on the company.

    I've canvassed between Bridgestone Turanzas and the Yokohama ASPEC a few months back.

    The Yokohama ASPECs were cheaper by a bit. Ended up with those. Good quiet tires.

    You can give the dealers a call. Yokohama PH dealers. There's a small variance in terms of pricing amongst the dealers (I've called quite a few) though. Some dealers only sell tires. Others also do alignment. Better ask first.

    Be sure to ask for the manufacture date on the tires as the tires do have a 5 year recommended life span beginning on the date these were manufactured (though we often can stretch this to 10 years). The code is a series of 4 numbers indicating the week and the year of manufacture. So that said, a code of 1112 would mean that the tire was manufactured on the 11th week of 2012.

    Also, your original tires have the speed & load rating of 86V. Assuming these are the specifications of the tires that originally came with the car, you'd need the new tires to have the same specs or better.

    Hope this helps.
    oh yeah, i meant to say wheel balancing.

    wow, thanks so much for the insights. about the 4number code, very helpful.

    I called GTD. i don't know if you guys know them. maybe you do.
    i asked if they have yokohama for my corolla, they gave me choices like SONAR, RUNWAY, HANCOOK?,KOMHO.
    because these are, according to them, the original tires for toyotas. are they correct? or did i just heard them wrong.

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    hey thanks sir.

    i just called yokohama, and they have Adrive at P3200 each for my corolla.
    is it worth it?

    and by the way, i plan on buying 2 first. is that okay?

    so it'll be 2 yokohamas in front with the other old 2 tires (185/65/R14 86V CHAMPIRO GTX-65.) at the back.
    you think the yokohamas will have the exact specs as the champiros? like 185/65/r14 yokoghama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiacutie View Post
    hey thanks sir.

    i just called yokohama, and they have Adrive at P3200 each for my corolla.
    is it worth it?

    and by the way, i plan on buying 2 first. is that okay?

    so it'll be 2 yokohamas in front with the other old 2 tires (185/65/R14 86V CHAMPIRO GTX-65.) at the back.
    you think the yokohamas will have the exact specs as the champiros? like 185/65/r14 yokoghama.
    Parang mahal. Kasi sa s&r ako bumili 3100 lang e. Try to canvass from other stores din kung ano price. Baka tumaas na din kasi e.

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    The Kumho Ecsta are good tires.

    The Kumho Solus, not so much.

    The Hankooks overall are good, but I have no feedback with regards to each specific tire model (as with all manufacturers, some models are better/worse than others).

    I'd stay away from the Sonars or Runways unless you're really on a tight budget. I don't have much info on those either.

    The A Drive should be a little more upscale than the ASPEC. Newer tire design.

    No ASPEC ones? Those should be cheaper than the A Drives and drive pretty well. These tires are stock on some of the Camry models.

    Btw, for safety concerns, the 2 new tires should be at the back rather than the front.

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    i believe the two new tires should be in front:
    1. they support the heavier part of the car;
    2. that's the end that gives you directional control;
    3. that's the end with the stronger brakes;
    4. that's the end that gives you power.

    when your rear tires fail or slip, you can still get control of the car with your manipulation of your front wheels.
    when your front tires fail, all you can do is pray.

    some authors believe shifting from rear wheel drive to front wheel drive, is a good commercial decision (costs!) but a bad engineering decision.. putting your poorer tires up front compounds the problem and increases the risks..
    Last edited by dr. d; August 20th, 2012 at 02:08 PM.

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    Nope.

    New tires in front, worn at the back = oversteer.

    New tires at the back, worn in front = understeer.

    In any case, it is easier to control understeer as opposed to oversteer.

    If it's the latter, you won't even have the chance to pray when you've spun out already.

    If you must replace tires two at a time, NEW TIRES AT THE BACK.

    This explains it
    Last edited by mda; August 20th, 2012 at 02:18 PM.

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    you know what, you guys are killing me. hahaha.
    ano ba talaga mga kuya? katakot naman. buhay ko to ah. haha. front or back? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiacutie View Post
    you know what, you guys are killing me. hahaha.
    ano ba talaga mga kuya? katakot naman. buhay ko to ah. haha. front or back? :P
    Back

    Check my link )

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiacutie View Post
    you know what, you guys are killing me. hahaha.
    ano ba talaga mga kuya? katakot naman. buhay ko to ah. haha. front or back? :P
    new tires go to the back for safety reasons. In case of accidents, understeer is preferred than oversteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Nope.

    New tires in front, worn at the back = oversteer.

    New tires at the back, worn in front = understeer.

    In any case, it is easier to control understeer as opposed to oversteer.

    If it's the latter, you won't even have the chance to pray when you've spun out already.

    If you must replace tires two at a time, NEW TIRES AT THE BACK.

    This explains it
    i did a quick google, and it seems napabayaan nako ng panahon.. it does seem that new information suggests new tires be installed at the rear.. but there are some articles that i still have to fathom that i can't do right now.. mahina ang server, e...
    Last edited by dr. d; August 20th, 2012 at 02:58 PM.

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    Always put the new tires at the rear, it's safer that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i did a quick google, and it seems napabayaan nako ng panahon.. it does seem that new information suggests new tires be installed at the rear.. but there are some articles that i still have to fathom that i can't do right now.. mahina ang server, e...
    And that's why we have this forum right here to help fellow motorists (you/me included).

    You never want to be on the receiving end of an accident you realize that you could have avoided or mitigated due to lack of information.

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