d4d more power.

[jrn29]

ano ano po ba ang pwede i mod sa 2.5 d4d para lumakas ang performance ,yung mod na walang kakalikutin sa makina or sa differential , Yung mod na install install lang ,

ito po list ko .

- EGR blanking plates
- K&N air filter
- race chip
- intercooler ? ( medyu alangan baka maraming gagalawin sa makina, ma letse pa )
- Fuel Combustion Enhancer ? ( testing ko sa advie namin dati parang bumilis )

any mods po na ma suggest niyu ? and kung ano mga advisalbe at hindi na mga mod :sweat:

i dont need speed ang gusto ko kahit lumakas lang ang arangkada at power ng performance, peru pwede na rin kahit madagdagan ang top speed kahit 10-15kph lang ;)

[crazy_boy]

Kung simple mod lang, chip ang suggestion ko. Kasi plug and play lang then tuning nalang.

[siopaonatoasted]

Di pa ako nakapagdrive ng D4D, and lalo na ng Innova na D4D kaya di ko macompare yung arangkada from zero kung alin talaga mas mabilis kung ang D4D or VVTI.

Pero dahil diesel ang D4D I bet mas mabilis aahon from stop ang D4D. Kung power (horsepower) pag uusapan, wala na yan ilalakas pa, mag VVTI ka kahit tops speed wala binatbat D4D.

Wag ka mag K&N, dudumi intake mo.

[babynos01]

How about A Unichip? Alam ko mas mataas gains niya compared to other Chips e.
An FMIC upgrade would also be good sir

[jrn29]

^ hindi sir non vnt, 102 hp lang, ano po yung alcohol injection ? :sweat: , may nag suggest din sa akin ng speed booster,

Di pa ako nakapagdrive ng D4D, and lalo na ng Innova na D4D kaya di ko macompare yung arangkada from zero kung alin talaga mas mabilis kung ang D4D or VVTI.

Pero dahil diesel ang D4D I bet mas mabilis aahon from stop ang D4D. Kung power (horsepower) pag uusapan, wala na yan ilalakas pa, mag VVTI ka kahit tops speed wala binatbat D4D.

Wag ka mag K&N, dudumi intake mo.

bakit sir po ba ok ang filtration ng k&n ,? :sweat:

kahit arangkada wala siguro binatbat ang d4d, kasi gas ang vvt-i walang hangganganan, at madaling sunugin kumpara sa diesel , madalas kasi ako ahunan lalo sa baguio kaya need ko ang power lalo na kapag punuan , kaya hindi ko talaga kaylangan ang madagdagan ang top speed ;)

Kung simple mod lang, chip ang suggestion ko. Kasi plug and play lang then tuning nalang.

ito'ng chip lang talaga ang alam ko na mod effective sa diesel engine, the rest suggest and research ko lang

[vinj]

If i had an Innova for my personal use:

- Drop-in filter
- Alcohol Injection
- Uni Chip (+ dyno tuning)

???+> Boost controller and gauge (Any one tried this on a D4d already?)

Re. K&N, we've been using this for ages in our cars (since the 1990s) and with regular cleaning and re-oiling, we never had any problems related to dirty intake plenums. If ever, it's just the same as any car that hits high mileage which will need TB cleaning after several years and well over a 100K of service.

I would not really go over on the power of the Innova though as at the end of the day, it is still an MPV and not a sport sedan. At most, based on what i feel whenever i use our family Innova out of town, i always wanted better low-end to mid range power from the a/t version for climbing and passing during highway runs with a moderate to heavy load.

[Retz]

Di pa ako nakapagdrive ng D4D, and lalo na ng Innova na D4D kaya di ko macompare yung arangkada from zero kung alin talaga mas mabilis kung ang D4D or VVTI.

Pero dahil diesel ang D4D I bet mas mabilis aahon from stop ang D4D. Kung power (horsepower) pag uusapan, wala na yan ilalakas pa, mag VVTI ka kahit tops speed wala binatbat D4D.

Wag ka mag K&N, dudumi intake mo.

vvti should accelerate faster from a full stop pag d4-d bubwelo pa yan.

[wilcats]

I've driven both. VVTi & D4d Innova.
the 2.0 VVTi is really really slow. you really have to step on the gas to get it going. That means bad FC too.
The 2KD-FTV gets you to decent speeds faster than the VVTi without really pushing it. Yun nga lang wala masyadong top speed.

[jrn29]

^ yun nga kaya gusto ko sana ,madagdagan ng power lalo na sa acceleration. at kung sa top speed din sana kahit 10-15kph , mataas palagi ang rpm kahit nasa 100kph pa lang , mataas din sa kasi FC yun .. medyo kulang sa duluhan ang takbo ng m/t 2.5 d4d parang nang hihingi pa ng kambyo .kasi ang mga a/t naman ang mababa ang rpm kahit nasa 160kph na .

i try blanking plates and k&n air filter muna bago yung race chip, obserbahan ko muna

[victorevolution]

i was able to drive an innova 2.5 d4d j when my friend bought one, 1st gear acceleration was fast as if parang gas engine lang but pag dating sa 2 and 3 medyo mabagal mag accelerate but you will notice it has a lot of torque which is the norm for a diesel engine, but compared to old school diesel it's a leap beyond.

in my opinion nasa driver siguro yan kung gamay na niya yung auto, cause my friend who own that innova, he's usual cruising highway speed is 150kph -170kph and in the city way above the normal driving limit (never rode with him again)

[siopaonatoasted]

I've driven both. VVTi & D4d Innova.
the 2.0 VVTi is really really slow. you really have to step on the gas to get it going. That means bad FC too.
The 2KD-FTV gets you to decent speeds faster than the VVTi without really pushing it. Yun nga lang wala masyadong top speed.

Parang contradicting paps, kasi it will be impossible for a D4D innova to get into a decent speed faster than a VVTi, kung from stop, I will agree, but kung parehas nakabwelo, it will be impossible. Mababa ang rpm ng diesel engines so it will require more time para makaipon ng enough energy to gain speed.

[jrn29]

Di pa ako nakapagdrive ng D4D, and lalo na ng Innova na D4D kaya di ko macompare yung arangkada from zero kung alin talaga mas mabilis kung ang D4D or VVTI.

Pero dahil diesel ang D4D I bet mas mabilis aahon from stop ang D4D. Kung power (horsepower) pag uusapan, wala na yan ilalakas pa, mag VVTI ka kahit tops speed wala binatbat D4D.

Wag ka mag K&N, dudumi intake mo.

ito bro may video sa youtube ;)

innova vvt-i 0-100kph



innova d4d 0-100kph

[TheGreenThing]

Egr blank plates will give your faster spooling of the turbo and quicker response. Both ends should be blank.

Hurricane filter is the most performance filter in the market but this should be conjunction with alcohol injection

Alcohol injection will also give you torque, Hp & will keep your engine always at optimum performance.

Is your 2kd-ftv VNt? If not, after installing a water/alcohol injection, install a boost controller and bump your boost 1-3psi up

200ml per 40L of 2T oil & diesel to keep your diesel injection/pump happy

Delete your catalytic converter if you have installed a water injection

3" full exhaust from turbo-muffler will also inprove performance

Fuel management (chips)

Hth

[TheGreenThing]

Also, the water injection will keep your full intake almost carbon free.. That is why hurricane filter is conjunction with alcohol injection

[timo07]

^Yeah, it's the gearing that determines the rpm at a certain speed. One way around it is to place larger diameter tires.

A stock Innova D4d m/t will be hard pressed to hit 160kph on a flat road....

You are probably right. I did 140kph at sctex on my mt d4d and odo is almost at 4K rpm.

[timo07]

Parang contradicting paps, kasi it will be impossible for a D4D innova to get into a decent speed faster than a VVTi, kung from stop, I will agree, but kung parehas nakabwelo, it will be impossible. Mababa ang rpm ng diesel engines so it will require more time para makaipon ng enough energy to gain speed.

Wilcat is probably talking about accelerating from stop as you mentioned. D4D is also better at doing overtaking at lower speeds because of its higher torque than the vvti. I experienced this myself when I travelled to isabela on two close occassions using a vvti rental innova and my d4d. A chip mod would probably be a good idea for a little more umphh.

[siopaonatoasted]

I cannot contradict your statement as I have no experience with a D4D engine.

Yung masishare ko lang is yung experience ko with the VVTi compare with a regular diesel engine like 2C, pero dahil nakasakay na rin ako sa landcruiser, wala binatbat VVTi sa hatak ng landcruiser hehehe... Joke lang sa pagcompare ko ng dalawa..

[jrn29]

ah akala ko kasi, magbabawas ng rpm , nag research ako effective daw talaga yung mga chip na i-install ,may napag tanungan din ako dati nadagdagan daw ng 10kph ang top speed niya sa innova niya

ito nakita ko sa diesel tuning philippines, medyo pricey nga lang

Stock horsepower :102HP

Tuned horsepower : 167HP

Stock Tourqe : 260NM

Tuned Torque : 380NM

PLUG AND PLAY

PRICE PHP : 35,000.00

[siopaonatoasted]

ah akala ko kasi, magbabawas ng rpm , nag research ako effective daw talaga yung mga chip na i-install ,may napag tanungan din ako dati nadagdagan daw ng 10kph ang top speed niya sa innova niya

ito nakita ko sa diesel tuning philippines, medyo pricey nga lang

Stock horsepower :102HP

Tuned horsepower : 167HP

Stock Tourqe : 260NM

Tuned Torque : 380NM

PLUG AND PLAY

PRICE PHP : 35,000.00

If ever nag increase yung top speed due the racechip, it means nag increase rin yung fuel consumption mo, kasi san naman kukunin ng extra rpm yung energy nya para bumilis? So it means additional fuel vapor and more air intake. And na-override nya na yung ideal na fuel and air ratio for every rpm.

[zap.FREEDOM]

If ever nag increase yung top speed due the racechip, it means nag increase rin yung fuel consumption mo, kasi san naman kukunin ng extra rpm yung energy nya para bumilis? So it means additional fuel vapor and more air intake. And na-override nya na yung ideal na fuel and air ratio for every rpm.

hindi pa rin...kasi it will still use less fuel, the DTP Ultimate Chip will allow the engine to gain more fuel economy by carefully tuning the low end performance output of your diesel engine allowing use of higher gears at lower revs kaya efficient pa rin kahit papaano.

BTT: I once driven an Innova 2.5 M/T and it was so nice..tipid na saka matulin din...kaya best pick ko talaga kung sa fortuner is manual tranny..kulang talaga hatak niya kapag A/T