Ano ba na naman eto???Toyota Fortuner's had brake problem in Thailand.

[nugundam93]

will the bigger rims setup messup the braking capability of the fortuner?

the mass will be moved outward from the center with bigger rims, hence increasing rotational inertia.

check this explanation about rotational inertia from http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../phy00124.htm:

Rotational inertia is a resistance to change of rotation. The more
rotational inertia an object has, the less it responds to being spun. The
outside parts of a spinning object have to move much faster than inside
parts near the axis. How an object is built, and along what direction you
want to spin it, also affect the rotational inertia.

and conversely, it could apply to stopping the object's rotation.

other link: http://www.analyticcycling.com/WheelsInertia_Page.html

[benny010]

so mga fortuner owner, ingat na lang... you should have enough breaking distance lagi..

[pixelparadigm]

That's why it's not sold in Japan... it's well below of Toyota's own standards. It's a vehicle designed to make money(Toyota IMV project is well advertised in Discovery Channel), not designed to make an awesome one. POS. Perhaps if Jeremy Clarkson would come across one, he would probably beat it with a sledgehammer.

[notoyota]

well, I think you are right, read this..

On 22/05/2007 I went to replace disk brakes and brake pasts of my Toyota Fortuner. The day after my car was delivered, while I was driving down from Kata hill, I found myself driving the car completely without brakes.

The morning after the accident, I contacted a Lawyer in Phuket in order to sue Toyota but he refused to take my case explaining that I could not have advanced any damage request to Toyota because that day, I didn’t lose my life and I didn’t get hurt. He also made a comment saying that life is not so worthy in Thailand…

The same day I contacted also Toyota so to know their opinion about this accident and they just offered to come to pick the car up, bring it to the service department in Phuket and fix the problem.

Since it wasn’t my intention to drive this car any longer and I wanted Toyota to retire the car I threatened to divulge this story to the media and finally I got some attention from the head office in Bangkok.

On 08/06/2007 a team of six technicians and managers came from Bangkok and inspected the car. The same day Toyota admitted its fault and responsibility, supplied me a spare car (unfortunately not a Fortuner but a second-hand truck) and sent me a letter of apologies confirming the intention to buy the car back at the same price I paid (970,000 baht). The letter was sent by Toyota Pearl Co.,Ltd and signed by the General Manager, Mr. Wibonchai Na-Ranong.

A few days later I received copy of the purchase agreement proposed and I was really surprised when I read the last clause of the agreement: “The Customer acknowledge and understand that the purchase of the said car in the Memorandum of Understanding, the Company considered as the special deal only for Customer Satisfaction, the Customer shall not never expose, reveal or transfer any statement or any section of this MOU at all conditions”.

Since this clause sounds like the intention to keep such an accident in the dark I didn’t accept the agreement and I replied that was without any doubt responsibility of Toyota to explain if the braking system defect is due to the service department fault or if it is a defect in term of the car. In both cases, Toyota Fortuners buyers should be informed if there is a risk that such mistake could be possibly repeated in the future compromising Toyota clients’ safety.

If there is a defect in terms of the car, typically around the brakes, that something should be subject to recall, it should be public, and it should be the owners of these cars should be notified and really told to come in and replace the car, not trying to hide the problem.

I added that I was the first person interested in knowing the truth about this ‘accident’ and I reserved the faculty and the right to divulge, expose, reveal what happened avoiding other drivers to experience such an unpleasant situation.

After a few days of silence a phone call from ‘Toyota Public Relations Office’ followed my letter and I was invited me to accept the agreement as they were very concerned about their reputation. So, I forwarded my last offer to refund the car, refund the money I paid for the car I rented (from 22/05 to 08/06), pay for moral damages and most importantly invite all Fortuners Owners who fixed the brakes in the last six months for a ‘free of charge’ brakes control.

Most funny, in the meantime, the local police stopped my colleague who was driving the spare car supplied by Toyota and retired his driving license since this car wasn’t insured. His driving license is still in Kathu Police station and he also paid a fine of 500 Baht.

On 25/06/2007, ‘Toyota Public Relations Office’ called again and refused all my requests asking to come to retire the spare car they supplied.

At present, my Fortuner is still parked in front of my office without brakes…what you suggest to do now? Is there a Consumers Association in Thailand that can help me with this?

[cocoy]

i didnt read the whole thread.. but i just want to know why the innova and fortuner is not available in australia. but the hilux is very available..

[tambutsoo]

guys na solve na ba itong issue? nangyari na po ba ito sa phil?

[pup2]

Whoa. Baka kaya nahuhulog sa Skyway ang Fortuner? Hehe. Can't believe this came after the SF in the 1.5M SUV comparo and ahead of the FXT, likely on sheer looks and Toyota's rep alone.

[OTEP]

i didnt read the whole thread.. but i just want to know why the innova and fortuner is not available in australia. but the hilux is very available..

Because the Innova and Fortuner were not designed for the Oz market. The market segment the Innova represents is non-existen in Oz. As for the Fortuner, it is available in New Zealand. The Prado is Oz's 7 seat midsizer. It is offered in a range of models (from basic to full boat) to cover a wide price range.

[promdiboy]

sa thailand diba loaded ang mga fortuners. naka 4 wheel disc ba mga fortuner nila dun? bigyan ko nga ng warning mga tropa na naka fortuner dito. saludo talaga ako power ng 3.0 d4d. also placed an order dati sa fortuner, di ko lang matanggap yung mga hinihingi ng toyota dealers. hi way robbery talaga. kaya nag rav 4 nalang.

[shockz]

Ayon din sa Thai forums, ang cause daw ng brake problem ay sa mods ng rim size. 20" and bigger yata ay delikado na sa stock brakes ng Fortuners.

Im not so sure how this affects the brakes. Pero here are the links sa Thai forums:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index....10&hl=fortuner

another thread: read the posts by "Emilio" on brakes, mods and rim sizes

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51174

Hope this helps............

[vicoyski]

Ayon din sa Thai forums, ang cause daw ng brake problem ay sa mods ng rim size. 20" and bigger yata ay delikado na sa stock brakes ng Fortuners.

Im not so sure how this affects the brakes. Pero here are the links sa Thai forums:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index....10&hl=fortuner

another thread: read the posts by "Emilio" on brakes, mods and rim sizes

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51174

Hope this helps............

*shockz: This is great information! Kaya fellow fortuner owners who've done mods on your tires, mags and brake systems... Monitor the effects of your modifications and be mindful of your driving habits.

[OTEP]

Madami din namang labas na panget sa Japan and be glad those vehicles were for JDM consumption only. The Toyota IMV project was NEVER intended for Japanese consumption but it does not mean Toyota will intentionally make a lemon.

Pero ang hina naman yata ng Fortuner kung 20" rims lang hindi pa kaya hawakan. Pano mo lalagyan ng off-road tires iyan?

[jeanpierre]

Sabihin na natin na maybe isang reason nga yong modification to the tyre rim installing 20" rim kaya nagka problema ang thai Fortuner owner sa brakes nya.
Pero paano explain ng Toyota yong result ng BEISSBARTH brake tester sa brakes ng Fortuner showing 45% efficiency at iba pang mga negative results. Stock tyres ang sure na ginamit for the test at di 20" rim.

[boybi]

i just drove a friend's fortuner a few minutes ago, mas mahina nga ang brakes nya compared to other cars i've driven.

[mbt]

hmm... mahina preno... fortuner owners, kabitan niyo nalang ng wang-wang yung mga sasakyan niyo hehe :bwahaha:

[number001]

Is it because of the momentum from a heavier body that's causing the brakes to not work properly? Its also probably because Toyota tried to scrimp so much that they replaced the rear ones from discs to drums and selling it to people for the same price as discs! :D

[nugundam93]

i'd vote for the latter. the former is a given na kasi eh. SUVs aren't exactly lightweights, so they have to give it brakes that'd work effectively for it. not piddly brakes...

[boybi]

my 3-ton patrol brakes much better than the fortuner's.