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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    The Innova's 2GD-FTV cleared India's BSIV (similar to Euro 6) which is good news for us.

    I'm sure we'll see a diesel Innova until its next version.
    as well as the hybrid diesel powertrain (possible hybrid version of GD series engine) that rumors on the upcoming Hilux and the next gen Prado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i am not sure...
    i have been using AT for years now. i do not see why i should be enamored away from it by the cvt.
    there is this small thought behind my mind of reliability issues of cvt on heavier vehicles..
    CVTs are ideally designed for small and light vehicles.. maybe on this upcoming Avanza this might have a beefier and redesigned CVT for a 7-seater MPV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    CVTs are ideally designed for small and light vehicles.. maybe on this upcoming Avanza this might have a beefier and redesigned CVT for a 7-seater MPV.
    Well, Subaru and Honda have both proven that CVTs will do for compact cars, midsize cars, and bigger crossovers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    as well as the hybrid diesel powertrain (possible hybrid version of GD series engine) that rumors on the upcoming Hilux and the next gen Prado.
    There are rumors from India that the Innova's replacement will be using a Petrol-Hybrid set-up.

    BSIV regulations will make the diesel variant too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    There are rumors from India that the Innova's replacement will be using a Petrol-Hybrid set-up.

    BSIV regulations will make the diesel variant too expensive.
    they probably dont want the hassle of providing DEF stations for euro 6 diesel compliance

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLZ View Post
    they probably dont want the hassle of providing DEF stations for euro 6 diesel compliance
    I can't find my source. But India will require 2 additional things to allow diesel vehicles. This is expected to make diesel versions of current vehicles too expensive.

    In Thailand, majority of Toyota buyers prefer hybrid versions of the Corolla and Corolla Cross.

    If we loose India and Thailand. I don't think Indonesia and Philippines has the market to convince Toyota to keep producing a diesel variant.

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    2022 Toyota Avanza caught completely undisguised in Indonesia – is this the next-generation Perodua Alza? | Paultan

    Crucially, this will allow the more car-like Perodua Alza to become a close sibling of the Toyota (and Daihatsu’s version, the Xenia). The national MPV is currently based on the Japanese-market Daihatsu Boon Luminas and Passo Sette, both of which have long been discontinued. The new Alza is rumoured to be launched in Malaysia at the end of the year.

    Expect the cars to be powered by the same engines as the Raize, Rocky and Ativa – a 98 PS/140 Nm 1.0 litre turbocharged three cylinder and a naturally-aspirated 88 PS/113 Nm 1.2 litre unit (likely exclusive to the Indonesian market), paired to either a five-speed manual gearbox or a CVT. The Avanza could also receive the Rocky e:Smart Hybrid‘s electrified 1.2 litre mill, which will likely be offered on the Ativa here.

    Last but not least, the twin windscreen-mounted cameras on this Avanza confirms the inclusion of the Advanced Safety Assist (ASA) suite of driver assistance systems. These include autonomous emergency braking and, in the case of Perodua’s system, adaptive cruise control and lane centring assist.

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    Those small displacement engines should be good for the really bad traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Those small displacement engines should be good for the really bad traffic.
    based on my personal experience.

    small engines are good if the car is on standstill

    but 0-something (which normally happens during traffic) it uses more fuel compared to bigger engines with better torque

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    based on my personal experience.

    small engines are good if the car is on standstill

    but 0-something (which normally happens during traffic) it uses more fuel compared to bigger engines with better torque
    The small engines paired with a cvt has decent fuel consumption. Small engines with 4sp torque converters drink a lot because of tall gearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    The small engines paired with a cvt has decent fuel consumption. Small engines with 4sp torque converters drink a lot because of tall gearing.
    Lol kaya pala hindi ganun katipiran ung 1.3l vios na may older 4at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Lol kaya pala hindi ganun katipiran ung 1.3l vios na may older 4at.
    Toyota also replaced the engine (1NR-FE, Dual VVT-i) which may have affected the car's fuel consumption

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    Ganda. Mado dominate ulit ng Toyota ang 1.5L gas MPV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Toyota also replaced the engine (1NR-FE, Dual VVT-i) which may have affected the car's fuel consumption
    also the 4at was replaced with a CVT.

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