2023 Toyota Wigo

[12vdc]

i like to equate the longer wheelbase with a less-tagtag ride.
whether this is true or not, i have yet to see or read about.

yes, i prefer the longer but less ***y side mirrors, for greater rear visilibity.

one thing my first gen wigo had, was a relatively heavy and dead steering wheel.
is the new wigo's steering wheel an improvement?
again, i await reviews.

my 2015 altis has finger-light electric power steering, but has uncomfortably small angle of approach.
in the few short weeks of driving her, naka-dalawa o tatlo na akong sayads.
it is a wonder the front bumper is still intact...

Mas Ok ang Gen2 by form. Itong Gen4 konting refinement lang, I guess same EPS steering feel of Gen3 B100. Mas matigas ang steering ng Daihatsu sa Toyota(compared sa Vios). Mas insulated lang ito sa lower gen but the same Daihatsu feel inside na manipis-compared sa brio na mas refined i drive(though wlang pushstart at backing cam).

[Miles_on]

i like to equate the longer wheelbase with a less-tagtag ride.

I don't think longer ang wheelbase from what I saw at the dealer.
They just slapped on a slightly longer, larger body onto the old chassis.
The ride will be the same.

My thoughts:
Power steering... on such small vehicles? Boy, drivers nowadays are so spoiled!

Yung point ng power steering is to assist steering with heavy, large vehicles with big tires (i.e. trucks, pickups, SUV's etc.) Putting these things on sedans & tiny cars like this are nice of course, but its one other thing to break later on...

[dr. d]

My thoughts:
Power steering... on such small vehicles? Boy, drivers nowadays are so spoiled!

Yung point ng power steering is to assist steering with heavy, large vehicles with big tires (i.e. trucks, pickups, SUV's etc.) Putting these things on sedans & tiny cars like this are nice of course, but its one other thing to break later on...

spoil us! spoil us!
heh heh.

i grew up on non-power-assisted steering,
but the 1976 RT100 toyota had a relatively light non-powered steering.

[dr. d]

Mas Ok ang Gen2 by form. Itong Gen4 konting refinement lang, I guess same EPS steering feel of Gen3 B100. Mas matigas ang steering ng Daihatsu sa Toyota(compared sa Vios). Mas insulated lang ito sa lower gen but the same Daihatsu feel inside na manipis-compared sa brio na mas refined i drive(though wlang pushstart at backing cam).

so you feel the brio has a more refined driving experience than the wigo...?
hmmm...
but the new wigo now offers tilting steering and height-adjustable driver seat...
... shall i change loyalties...?

[carxynogen]

so you feel the brio has a more refined driving experience than the wigo...?
hmmm...
but the new wigo now offers tilting steering and height-adjustable driver seat...
... shall i change loyalties...?

Brio is 4-cylinder, I think mas comfortable and refine i drive si Brio than any 3-cylinder engine cars.
Walang vibrations ma feel.

[dr. d]

Brio is 4-cylinder, I think mas comfortable and refine i drive si Brio than any 3-cylinder engine cars.
Walang vibrations ma feel.

the three-cylinderness is a given.
but what about the versatility of the driver's positioning?
the heaviness of the steering wheel,
the smoothness of the suspension and its ability to absorb road imperfections,
the ease of ingress and egress of driver and passenger,
the seating comfort,
etc.

they are both mini cars, but how does one fare against the other?
methinks it's time to test-fit-and-drive these two...

[carxynogen]

the three-cylinderness is a given.
but what about the versatility of the driver's positioning?
the heaviness of the steering wheel,
the smoothness of the suspension and its ability to absorb road imperfections,
the ease of ingress and egress of driver and passenger,
the seating comfort,
etc.

they are both mini cars, but how does one fare against the other?
methinks it's time to test-fit-and-drive these two...

My perception if Toyota vs Honda.
Honda is for comfort, while reliability, this is subjective since honda is also a reliable car on par with Toyota.
But some cannot always say Toyota is more comfortable than Honda.

[bxr monkey]

Comfortable seats at suspension ng Mirage.
May height adjust at mas upright driving position.
Okay din steering. Support local factory pa.

Downside walang ABS at nag bottom suspension kung 5 ang sakay.

Sa Wigo, Brio, Mirage. Wigo at Mirage choices ko.
Wala si Brio dahil sa low driving position, low ground clearance, at mahirap rear visibility.

[dr. d]

Comfortable seats at suspension ng Mirage.
May height adjust at mas upright driving position.
Okay din steering. Support local factory pa.

Downside walang ABS at nag bottom suspension kung 5 ang sakay.

Sa Wigo, Brio, Mirage. Wigo at Mirage choices ko.
Wala si Brio dahil sa low driving position, low ground clearance, at mahirap rear visibility.

direct to the point.
much appreciated, po.

btw,
how's the build quality of the mirage nowadays?
the first versions seemed to be iffy...
"ok na ba" ?

and what about the celerio?
very few comments about it.
an acquaintance, however, says his brother has one and has had no issues with it thru the years.

[12vdc]

so you feel the brio has a more refined driving experience than the wigo...?
hmmm...
but the new wigo now offers tilting steering and height-adjustable driver seat...
... shall i change loyalties...?

I have both the Wigo(3rd Gen B100) and 2nd Gen Brio. I prefer the smoothness of 4cylinder and build quality of Honda.
The Daihatsu NVH is not as refined due to 3Cylinder and less insulation, the AC is weak-di kaya sabayan sa tirik na araw during summer/not as cold as the Honda. I seldom use them for long drives - more on pang hatid sundo, grocery, solo drive. For highways, Vtec kick n yo is much pleasurable to drive. Both are perfect all arounder errand car for city and short trips. Better FC goes to Wigo but not as much.

I cannot comment on Mirage since it was long been discontinued. Celerio was overpriced but i suspect it rides like the Wigo. Korean hatch was also discontinued. No Chinese, bad for Ph sovereignty

[baludoy]

^ sayang nga iyong kia pride. The new models released overseas look good.

Baka Naman iyong kia soluto/Hyundai Reina would be worth the consideration too. I've been seeing so many many on our roads nowadays and it seems to be having more car value than it entry level counterparts. Although mas mahal ata Ang mga Yan compared to wigo.

Sorry medyo nag digress [emoji16]

Sent from my RMX3690 using Tsikot Forums mobile app

[ice15]

Ok naman tignan, but hindi kaya vulnerable to damage yung makanto na edges sa baba ng bumper?

sanayan lang... My car has a very poor approach angle thanks to the factory installed chin. nakaka-inis na I have to put the car sideways when I enter our office parking... and that road beside SM Aura. and nakaka-hiya since my car is not lowered.

now if only we get TO choose our ending digit sa plaQa...

Special Plates...

II. Has the same engine as the 1st & 2nd facelift, naiba lang yung layout nung wiper fluid reservoir (left side na ng engine)

it's the same platform as the Raize (And I think the new Vios)

as per Real Ryan, it also uses Daihatsu's new CVT

[dr. d]

Special Plates...

kung puede lang... willing to pay naman.
but i was advised some weeks ago, that LTO had suspended all special plates programs and requests of last digit.
it would appear, my only recourse is to get a hybrid, para coding-free...

[_Qwerty_]

till 2030 pa lang yan.. unless extended..

it would appear, my only recourse is to get a hybrid, para coding-free...

[dr. d]

till 2030 pa lang yan.. unless extended..

ok na sakin yung 7 years.
hopefully, by that time, puede na uling pumili nang EP or meron na uling special plates.

[ice15]

ok na sakin yung 7 years.
hopefully, by that time, puede na uling pumili nang EP or meron na uling special plates.

hopefully wala nang coding in the future...

[dr. d]

hopefully wala nang coding in the future...

dahil walang coding ang bisikleta!
heh heh.

[ice15]

dahil walang coding ang bisikleta!
heh heh.

I'm hoping na almost half of the cars in Metro Manila are (at least) hybrids by then... and marealize nilang tanggalin na coding.

just like when we moved to Euro-4... may nakikita ka pa bang smoke emissions inspection sa kalsada?

[ale828]

I'm hoping na almost half of the cars in Metro Manila are (at least) hybrids by then... and marealize nilang tanggalin na coding.

just like when we moved to Euro-4... may nakikita ka pa bang smoke emissions inspection sa kalsada?

Makati still has those emission checking roadside.
usually sa SLEX side ng makati after Cash and carry after lunch lumalabas for around 2 hours sila.
pero usually mga truck and old diesel vans lang ang hinuhuli for inspection.

[ice15]

Makati still has those emission checking roadside.
usually sa SLEX side ng makati after Cash and carry after lunch lumalabas for around 2 hours sila.
pero usually mga truck and old diesel vans lang ang hinuhuli for inspection.

that's good to know.

as a motorcycle rider... parami ng parami mga Innova/Fortuner and Montero na smoke belching na.