Toyota 3ZR-FE

[gh0str1d3r]

Hello,



Need suggestions please, I have a 2010 Toyota Altis with a 2.0 (3ZR-FE) engine. My only issue with this is the fuel consumption. Meron po bang paraan, para mapatipid sa consumo sa gas etong makinang eto? Is there a way to strangle a little bit of the engine, sacrifice a little power for fuel economy? Can we do a remap of the computer for fuel economy? Any suggestions please.

[dr. d]

Hello,



Need suggestions please, I have a 2010 Toyota Altis with a 2.0 (3ZR-FE) engine. My only issue with this is the fuel consumption. Meron po bang paraan, para mapatipid sa consumo sa gas etong makinang eto? Is there a way to strangle a little bit of the engine, sacrifice a little power for fuel economy? Can we do a remap of the computer for fuel economy? Any suggestions please.

errr,
how bad is your fuel appetite?

[travajante]

Hello,



Need suggestions please, I have a 2010 Toyota Altis with a 2.0 (3ZR-FE) engine. My only issue with this is the fuel consumption. Meron po bang paraan, para mapatipid sa consumo sa gas etong makinang eto? Is there a way to strangle a little bit of the engine, sacrifice a little power for fuel economy? Can we do a remap of the computer for fuel economy? Any suggestions please.

How bad? Guess you'll have to suck it up, sir. Not much one can do w/ this early injected, driven by cable(not wire) engine w/ basic ECU. Though remaps are possible, tuner support is limited(to non-existent) here.
Just keep the oil, intake filter, plugs fresh. One great thing... It's a very reliable timing-chained Toyota engine.


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[sirkosero]

Over inflate the tires a bit.
Make sure brakes are not dragging.
Maybe change air filter to less restrictive.

Sell the car. Get a new one.

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[ice15]

errr,
how bad is your fuel appetite?

agree, how "bad" is "bad" and can you also share us your average speed?

just to share, my 1.3L Corolla in early 2000's was doing 5-8km/l QC to Intramuros during rush hour

[thearsenal1205]

sirkosero was right. sell your 2.0 Altis and get a newer or smaller displacement sedan like 1.6 Altis.

The 2010 2.0L Altis was already CVT. (correct me if i'm wrong) If it's still 4 speed AT, then that also contributes to thirsty fuel consumption to the large 2.0L engine.

[Miles_on]

In the old days of carbureted low tech cars, we’d adjust it to run on a leaner air fuel mixture.
You'd have to be deft with the clutch though because they'd stall more easily.


I think messing with the ECU’s a pretty bad idea, because its hard to find someone who knows what they’re doing (and owe up to it with a guarantee if things go wrong). The guys who do it are usually the ones who won't bat an eyelid at the cost of getting a new computer box pag nagkaleche-leche

[Miles_on]

If the expense* of buying a new car would cost more than your projected fuel expenses + maintenance costs of your current car for the next 5 years or so, “toughing it out” with your current car might actually make more sense.


*In addition to the cash price (if installment, mas mataas pa), you’ll also have to spend for gas, maintenance and insurance costs for the new car pa rin naman.

Ex:

Cost of new car + maintenance costs of new car + fuel costs of new car + insurance costs

vs.

Projected fuel expenses and maintenance costs for the next 5 years of current gas guzzler car

If di nalalayo yung sa taas, replace your current car. If significantly less yung sa baba, keep it.

-My opinion.

[gh0str1d3r]

My average is at 8km/l city, now. before It actually runs at 6km/l city. It improved a little compared to 1st I got the car, because it has wider tires and a large heavy box for the sub. So I sold the large mags, got back to stock tires (smaller and thinner), also got rid of the heavy sub box.


But because of the higher fuel prices today, I still want to lower the consumption even if it sacrifices power.



If I try to sell it, how much will the price range be??

[dr. d]

My average is at 8km/l city, now. before It actually runs at 6km/l city. It improved a little compared to 1st I got the car, because it has wider tires and a large heavy box for the sub. So I sold the large mags, got back to stock tires (smaller and thinner), also got rid of the heavy sub box.


But because of the higher fuel prices today, I still want to lower the consumption even if it sacrifices power.



If I try to sell it, how much will the price range be??

8 km per liter from a 12 year old 2 liter car (AT, i presume), is already good, in my view.
if you want significantly better km /li figures, you might have to sell that car and get an econo model.

[hardwang]

My average is at 8km/l city, now. before It actually runs at 6km/l city. It improved a little compared to 1st I got the car, because it has wider tires and a large heavy box for the sub. So I sold the large mags, got back to stock tires (smaller and thinner), also got rid of the heavy sub box.


But because of the higher fuel prices today, I still want to lower the consumption even if it sacrifices power.



If I try to sell it, how much will the price range be??

Maganda na yang nakukuha mo na 8km/L. I once owned a 1.5L honda city and I get 9km/L in the city. Kung gusto mo talaga makatipid sa gas, maybe get an extra motorcycle for short trips.

[sirkosero]

My average is at 8km/l city, now. before It actually runs at 6km/l city. It improved a little compared to 1st I got the car, because it has wider tires and a large heavy box for the sub. So I sold the large mags, got back to stock tires (smaller and thinner), also got rid of the heavy sub box.


But because of the higher fuel prices today, I still want to lower the consumption even if it sacrifices power.



If I try to sell it, how much will the price range be??

That is actually good. My 2014 vios 1.3 barely goes 8km/liter in city driving. Around 5-6 lang yun.

My diesel innova gets me 7km/liter.

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[gh0str1d3r]

I see, well I wouldn't have any issues with this but since the start of the War, gas prices shoot up to the roof. Traffic is already going back to normal (meaning WORST), good thing we are still WFH, but once in a while we still need to go back to the office.

[ice15]

Agree with the comments here. 8km/l is very good is the city.

Me and my sister are getting 9km/l (City and HR-V). I used to get 7km/l on a Mirage G4

[dr. d]

I used to get 7km/l on a Mirage G4

WHAAATT!!!
truly?
good gosh!

[yapoy86]

Medyo malakas nga sa gas yung 1zz na engine ng altis.. mas matipid pa yung 2.0 mazda.. consistent naman sa 10L/100kms.. nung pandemic nasa 8L/100kms lagi yun.. hatid ako sa calamba kay misis..

Mabigat paa ko po.. hehe

Try nyo siguro mag accelerate faster.. para hindi bumabad sa 1st gear.. press harder then release a little para mag shift sa 2nd gear.. pag steady tapak kasi, tagal lumipat ng gear nyan

[rico_yan]

I see, well I wouldn't have any issues with this but since the start of the War, gas prices shoot up to the roof. Traffic is already going back to normal (meaning WORST), good thing we are still WFH, but once in a while we still need to go back to the office.

You said you don't drive to work daily. Even if you do, your Altis is a great commuter car. With decent fuel consumption, relatively easy to maintain, plenty of parts available. As I see it, you don't necessarily have to replace your car, moreso if fully-paid.

Unless you're looking for a justification, because that's what I'd do to get my hands on a new car

Kidding aside. If you "need" to replace your car, then you must. If you "want" to, then you should.

[jut703]

Pointless to sell and then replace with a slightly more fuel efficient car like a 1.6 Altis.

What you lose out in depreciation is higher than any savings on consumption.

I’ve had both the 2.0 and 1.6 Altis. 1 km/L difference in city driving (7 km/L vs 8 km/L). If you travel 1000 km per month (that’s super generous already), then you save 1000 pesos per month.

Imagine the hassle of selling your car, transferring ownership, dealing with potential repairs of a unit whose history you know nothing about, all for 12k/yr worth of savings.


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[ninjababez]

ok ba sayo mt?
palit tayo lol

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[Egan101]

2.0L engines are not that bad in terms of fuel efficiency, specially the more modern ones.

If you compare them with smaller cars, of course they would look bad in terms of figures. However, you get a better-equipped car with some more oomph. Kung parang 8-9 km/L with a Vios versus 7-8 km/L with an Altis 2.0L, Doon na ako sa Altis.

I drive an ASX 2.0L and I have no issues getting around an average of 8 km/L combined highway and city routes.


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