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    mabilis nga ang MS. Nice shots zix. Fort 3.0 vs MS 2.5 yan sir? Katakot na ganyan speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turboride View Post
    mabilis nga ang MS. Nice shots zix. Fort 3.0 vs MS 2.5 yan sir? Katakot na ganyan speed.
    3.0 fort and 2.5 gtv. Kakakuha nga lang namin a while ago at nlex, baka kasi bumagsak kami sa exam nung professor namin, kaya pinag aaralan namin mabuti yung speed and rpm, hahaha. Tama ka sir turboride, very dangerous speed na yan

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    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    3.0 fort and 2.5 gtv. Kakakuha nga lang namin a while ago at nlex, baka kasi bumagsak kami sa exam nung professor namin, kaya pinag aaralan namin mabuti yung speed and rpm, hahaha. Tama ka sir turboride, very dangerous speed na yan
    Babagsak pa rin tayo sa exam ni prof kumax kasi isa lang naman ang pinaniniwalaan nyan na pinaka.. Yung 300,000+ kms nya na pinakamatibay at pinakamabilis.. Sigurado ako mamaya lang may panibagong spreadsheet yan na ibibigay for our problem solving ulit.. I guess yung correction factor ng speedo at gearing ang new topic, antayin natin mag reresearch ulit yan sa net..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    Parang rear bumper ng innova? Front bumper okay.
    *hindmaxsiado, sir professor, pano na nga ba basahin yung lesson ninyo kahapon? Hindi kasi namin maapply sa actual eh, hehe. Dami factors nyan prof, wag puro kwenta sa papel. Buy ka fort, test mo actual then compare sa computation mo, hahaha.



    Uh... again... again... absolutely meaningless. Most stock speedometers are nowhere near accurate. Some are off by 10 km/h at 100... some are off by as much as 20 (experienced this on one test unit...). Unless you can provide a shot that includes a vehicle mounted GPS performance meter, it's still just hearsay. In other words, though both cars are supposedly going 160, they could be going anywhere from 140-170.

    And, as vinj has pointed out... maintaining such high speeds in cars like that is incredibly dangerous. Neither the Fortuner nor the Montero has the body control or braking ability to cope with high speed emergencies or rough roads.

    Quote Originally Posted by RJQ14 View Post
    Mga bossing, may limited slip differential (LSD) na din po ba yung 4x4 na Fortuner?
    According to the marketing crew no. But the Hilux 4x4 has it.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    Parang rear bumper ng innova? Front bumper okay.
    *hindmaxsiado, sir professor, pano na nga ba basahin yung lesson ninyo kahapon? Hindi kasi namin maapply sa actual eh, hehe. Dami factors nyan prof, wag puro kwenta sa papel. Buy ka fort, test mo actual then compare sa computation mo, hahaha.

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    "Res ipsa loquitur". ok actual test mas understandable compare sa
    technical spec test but over speeding na to' my huli na at byaheng langit pa hehe peace=)

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    Sir binase ko lang sa lessons natin yan, both stock, 265 65 17, pareho 3400rpm kung san 343nm yung torque sa fort(base sa lesson pa din ninyo), at sa gtv naman, base sa lesson natin eh hindi ko matandaan kung ilan na nga ba ang torque, basta binase ko na lang sa "actual". Mahirap kasi bumasa ng computation eh. At sa speed at rpm naman sa actual, hindi talaga namin maconnect yung mga pinagtututuro ninyo professor. Pero sir ipasa ninyo kami ha, ayaw namin magfail, gumagawa naman kami ng assignments

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    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    Sir binase ko lang sa lessons natin yan, both stock, 265 65 17, pareho 3400rpm kung san 343nm yung torque sa fort(base sa lesson pa din ninyo), at sa gtv naman, base sa lesson natin eh hindi ko matandaan kung ilan na nga ba ang torque, basta binase ko na lang sa "actual". Mahirap kasi bumasa ng computation eh. At sa speed at rpm naman sa actual, hindi talaga namin maconnect yung mga pinagtututuro ninyo professor. Pero sir ipasa ninyo kami ha, ayaw namin magfail, gumagawa naman kami ng assignments
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Babagsak pa rin tayo sa exam ni prof kumax kasi isa lang naman ang pinaniniwalaan nyan na pinaka.. Yung 300,000+ kms nya na pinakamatibay at pinakamabilis.. Sigurado ako mamaya lang may panibagong spreadsheet yan na ibibigay for our problem solving ulit.. I guess yung correction factor ng speedo at gearing ang new topic, antayin natin mag reresearch ulit yan sa net.

    Tsk.... tsk.... tsk.... magkaibigan nga kayo at naintindihan ko na kayo mga sirs

    Hay nako, puros angas at bilis lang ang alam tsk tsk tsk tsk.... Yan na ba ang best sa pagkaka-intindi niyo sa tunay na speed ng isang sasakyan mga sirs, sa speedometer? Yan na ba tingin ninyong ACCURATE measurement ng speed sa tagal na ninyong mga car owners at sa kabila ng mga pa-bida ninyo mga boss? ....HUWAAAW, idol ko kayo mga bosing.... Tapos, matalino na ang turing ninyo sa Pinoy ah, at pinagmamalaki pa natin sa ibang bansa

    Kaya pala puros lang kayo angas eh, nagsama pa kayong dalawa ni Navara boy 12vdc hehe.... Kumarera kayo ng kumarera at pa-bida kayo ng pa-bida sa mga speedometer ninyo hanggang gusto ninyo mga sirs, wala pong pipigil sa inyo kung yan po ang sadyang pagka-intindi ninyo sa tunay na speed

    Basta mag-ingat lang po kayo... Kung kayo lang naman po sa isang drag-strip, kayo nalang po, huwag nalang po gumawi pa sa public road kahit maluwang pa yan, huwag na kayo magdamay pa ng iba.... Hindi lang po kayo ang gumagamit ng kalsada, na kung saan ang lahat ay nais lang makauwi sa kani-kanilang bahay, maging kayo na rin....



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    I am a fan of both, and IMO its balikatan.

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    What's up with all this speed and acceleration business??? On an SUV??? :whoa: If that's what someone is looking for on a ride then he'd be better off with a big sedan or euro car where one can cruise at 200kph all day long. Most off road tests i've seen for these SUVS did not even consider the power differential between the MS and Fortuner anymore but more of the capability.

    Has anyone tried doing (or know how to do) an emergency brake and evasive maneuver, with uneven vehicle load, on these things from anywhere above 120kph? I've had the opportunity to try this with cars on a wet track before and its already a handful so guys who have all the balls to do such on a public road on a vehicle with a high center of gravity, and even take a pic to prove a point while at it, should be very aware of this for safety's sake.

    If you happen by the NLEX or SCTEX boneyard and catch a damaged Fortuner or Monty Sport, you'll understand what i mean.

    It's getting out of topic already. Back to regular programming.

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    Hello tsikoteers!IMO, Much better to compare same engine displacement like 3.0 d4d crdi VNT 4at and 3.0 4m41 crdi non-VGT 4speed at than 2.5 4d56 crdi vgt 5speed. mababa kasi displacement nito compare sa 3.0 fortuner. sad to say and i think phase out na yata and 3.0 4m41 sa monty and wala sa philipppine market spec yung VGT sa 4m41. but for competition and comparison sake, the 3.0 4m41 crdi vgt 5AT has an edge over the 3.0 d4d fort especially that extra cog of the monty(if mitsu will bring that engine like in other countries). just like comparing orange to orange and not orange to lemons..

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    Ride has greatly improved. Di ko nga alam how they did it. According to sa's i interviewed springs lang daw ang pinalitan. Someone said cushioned seats, someone said reangled shock. Will never know. Pero malaking improvement na talaga siya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turboride View Post
    Ride has greatly improved. Di ko nga alam how they did it. According to sa's i interviewed springs lang daw ang pinalitan. Someone said cushioned seats, someone said reangled shock. Will never know. Pero malaking improvement na talaga siya.
    Oo nga, di na matigas ang suspension, nag test drive ako last Monday, nagustuhan ko yung interior, mga ilaw ng guages, mas maganda pa kesa sa Prado, nag pareserve ako tuloy, bahala na kung sino unang lumabas sa pila, Montero o Fortuner

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    nice! di ko lang type yun tail lights...... sana nilagyan nila ng monitor/gps yun head-unit.

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    Thanks boss turboride for the answer. Actually i was torn between the new hilux and the upcoming ford ranger wildtrak. Ok hilux kasi proven na since 2005 and they even fix the stalling problem caused by SCV and EGR but i think and my presumption ,2-3years from now mag change uli ng model ang hilux same scenario with fortuner. problem naman sa ford ranger especially pag all new is the bugs(recall) and hindi pa proven here in our shore..Im planning to buy the top spec 4x4 matic hilux for replacement of my aging 4x4 strada. Peace=)

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    Wait for the new Ranger in 2012... That truck will kick all the other trucks with their endless facelifts hehehe

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    mga sir..ask lang po..magkano naman ngayon ang M/T FORTUNER?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Wait for the new Ranger in 2012... That truck will kick all the other trucks with their endless facelifts hehehe
    ^ Based from their recent releases, it seems this will have another very good engine and tranny. Hopefully they also strengthened/improved their underchassis parts.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Wait for the new Ranger in 2012... That truck will kick all the other trucks with their endless facelifts hehehe
    Thanks boss tidus. Sakay muna ako sa kuliglig while waiting hehe peace=)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Wait for the new Ranger in 2012... That truck will kick all the other trucks with their endless facelifts hehehe

    With it's jurrassic leaf spring suspension and hand brakes... only the crosswind and adventure can beat it...

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    Well it also makes the Ranger tough. Bumili ka png truck for comfort, di mag crossover ka na lang. A truck is bulit to carry loads and to handle rough roads... And its not as if the Hi-Lux has a nice ride hehehe

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