Philippine Navy acquires Hamilton class patrol craft

[Big_daddy]

nah, the angle of elevation for those systems are too narrow to engage something hitting you from directly above. besides, if let's say you intercepted one(assuming it's not MIRV), the ballistic missile debris would incapacitate a carrier's deck since it's like dropping rocks directly above paper boats

Yan kaya ang reason kung bakit VLS systems na ang uso ngayon?

Eto rin naisip ko...if its an IRBM or any other system using a ballistic trajectory...dapat solid yung targetting and mid-air guidance correction nyan. Syempre ibang kwento pag nuclear warhead ang gamit nila...definitely eh escalation yun...so ample response din ang gagawin ng US and any other nation na targeted by those WMD's.

Kasi designed yung mga ballistic warheads to follow a ballistic path...and strong point lang nila eh yung high velocity generated by an object on a ballistic path...which means di na sila nag-maneuver pag na-release na yung MIRV's/single warhead sa transtage...which in this case eh yung last stage na may booster...na sya namang kinalalagyan ng warhead bus/shroud.

I think eh may chance pa rin ang ship based anti-air defense...lalo na pag carrier task force...not unless dikit sila masyado sa isat-isa.

[safeorigin]

well, there are maneuverable warheads in BM's like Topol-M and RS-24.

warheads can be as conventional as thermobaric explosives or kinetic penetrators.

all I can say is, good luck countering those coz current ABM's can't(if it's launched from a submarine)

[ghosthunter]

Would I just love to have guided kinetic kill weapons to wipe out strategic targets from orbit or from high altitude.

[jetrix214]

wala tayong magagawa mga kapatid kahit sabihin natin na bulok wala nmng tayong choice atleast we let them to bully us.... dapat mag kaisa na lang tayo then making conflicts on our selves

[Monseratto]

http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/p...licoptersboats

Philippines says will spend $255 mln on military helicopters,boats
13 Apr 2011 12:26

Source: reuters // Reuters


MANILA, April 13 (Reuters) - The Philippines will use proceeds from the country's Malampaya gas fields to fund most of a $255 million plan to buy boats, helicopters and weapons for the military, President Benigno Aquino said on Wednesday.

The Philippines has one of the weakest militaries in the region, patrolling its vast maritime borders, including disputed areas in the South China Sea, with 20-year-old trainer jets and Vietnam War-era frigates.

Efforts to upgrade equipment have been hampered by tight government finances and graft allegations.

"For the information of everybody, we are allocating 11 billion pesos ($255 million) for the equipment of the Armed Forces of the Philippines," Aquino told reporters after observing joint military exercises of American and Filipino soldiers at an army jungle base north of Manila.

"There will be boats and other watercraft, helicopters for our air force and assault rifles for our Philippine army and many more."

Aquino has previously said the navy would be upgraded to better protect the country's maritime resources, including oil exploration areas in the South China Sea. [ID:nSGE70304O]

Aquino said 8 billion pesos for the modernisation programme would be allocated from the government's royalties from the Malampaya gas fields off western Palawan island. Another 3 billion pesos will be taken from the 2011 budget.

A refurbished Hamilton-class cutter donated by the United States would be ready by August and three brand-new Taiwan-manufactured Multi-Purpose Attack Craft vessels will be delivered by early next year, he said.

[Monseratto]

What is a 2nd hand coastguard cutter compared to a 2nd hand aircraft carrier...?

http://atimes.com/atimes/China/MD13Ad03.html

Ming Dynasty admiral spooks Taiwan

By Jens Kastner

TAIPEI - A proud China is set to launch its first aircraft carrier. For Taiwan, the carrier's most frightening aspect could be its name.

For years, military enthusiasts flying over the seaport city of Dalian in northeast China knew well when to press their noses against the cabin windows. On the approach to Dalian's Zhoushuizi airport, the construction of China's first aircraft carrier could be spotted, with workers busy along the length of the 302-meter long, 70.5-meter wide ship.

They installed engines and other heavy equipment, completed the radar mast, installed the shipborne multi-function Active Phased Array Radar (APAR) and Sea Eagle radar as sensors, hauled up Type 730 close-in weapon system (CIWS) seven-barreled 30mm machine guns to destroy incoming anti-ship missiles and enemy aircraft at short range, and tinkered with the fully automatic fire-and-forget Flying Leopard 3000 Naval (FL-3000N) air defense missile system.

Once the steely giant blew out steam and exhaust, and workers begun painting its hull the People's Liberation Army Navy's (PLA Navy's) standard light gray-blue, it became clear that the 67,000 tonne-carrier was never meant to become a Macau casino float as the Chinese had initially claimed.

The story of how the Varyag - once destined to become a Soviet navy multi-role aircraft carrier - ended up in Chinese hands may inspire novelists or screenplay writers for decades. Her keel was laid down in 1985 in what was then the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, only to have construction stopped - while the ship was structurally complete but without electronics - in 1992 following the chaotic breakup of the Soviet Union.

The carrier was first laid up unmaintained, then stripped, and by 1998 she had lost her engines, a rudder, as well as her operating systems. Finally, the Varyag was put up for auction by Ukraine.

Having had gross domestic product (GDP) fall 60% from 1991 to 1999 and suffering five-digit inflation rates in a deep economic slowdown, the Ukrainians warmly welcomed an unheard-of Hong Kong company which purchased the vessel for US$20 million. The colossus embarked on a 28,200-kilometer journey with the Hong Kong firm saying it wanted the vessel to become a casino in the southern Chinese gambling city of Macau. The Varyag was towed out of the Black Sea, through the Bosporus strait, the Straits of Gibraltar, around the Cape of Good Hope and through the Straits of Malacca.

But Macau wasn't the final destination. In 2005, the Varyag ended up at a dry dock at Dalian, home to the PLA Dalian Naval Academy. There, China's first batch of carrier aviators began training in 2008, undergoing a four-year course of instruction to turn them into fighter pilots capable of operating from a carrier. It took a few years until Chinese state-run media broke the news that the carrier was being built. In early April, it was declared that China's first aircraft carrier could take to the sea as early as July 1.

However, according to unconfirmed reports in Western and Taiwanese media, the Varyag has been renamed. Now, the she is allegedly to be called the Shi Lang, pennant number 83, a name that is not popular in Taiwan.

Shi Lang (1621-1696), the historical figure after whom China's first aircraft carrier is allegedly to be named, has also been providing the Chinese with a useful historical narrative of late. The Ming general, reputedly a genius in naval warfare, defected to the Manchu-Qing Dynasty, who by then had conquered all China except Taiwan.

[safeorigin]

Would I just love to have guided kinetic kill weapons to wipe out strategic targets from orbit or from high altitude.

ah the mythical fractional orbital bombardment system...

what's funny is that they also plan on using the S-500 system specifically to counter those

[ghosthunter]

ah the mythical fractional orbital bombardment system...

what's funny is that they also plan on using the S-500 system specifically to counter those

How do you stop a kinetic kill weapon moving at multiple speeds of sound? Intercepting it would be next to impossible.

[Monseratto]

ah the mythical fractional orbital bombardment system...

what's funny is that they also plan on using the S-500 system specifically to counter those

Next thing people will be comparing other non-existant weapon system like photon torpedoes, plasma cannons and other deathrays...

[Ry_Tower]

ang layo na nang inabot ng thread na ito ah?