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    bibili da ang philippine airforce ng invisible jets....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom View Post
    bibili da ang philippine airforce ng invisible jets....


    Imaginary Jets na lang para sa puff. Hinde na kailangan pang bumili.

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    [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wXNVy5dFg[/ame]

    pwede rin ito...

    attack helo and transport at the same time

    upgraded pa ng mga south africans

    although mas maganda yung cockpit ng Mi-35

    [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHdZvQjG-jw[/ame]

    inubos yung LTTE Tamil Tigers

    $12.5-25m each yung bagong bago na Mi-35
    Last edited by safeorigin; December 20th, 2010 at 04:42 PM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Hintayin na lang natin yung stealth fighter ng China...



    http://www.dailymailtimes.com/?p=693

    Hints of a Chinese Stealth plane J-20 surprise US analysts
    Posted on 27 December 2010.

    The U.S. flew its first stealth prototypes — the YF-22 and rival YF-23 — in 1990. Have the Chinese caught up? There are blurry pictures of the Chinese J-20 jet-fighter floating around. Some think the pictures are fake, others think that the pictures are real and have been pulled. Some analysts think that the pictures could be the products of a Chinese government misinformation campaign.

    Chinese Internet forums are circulating the pictures. The airplane depicted in the snapshots has many of the appropriate characteristics for a fifth-generation stealth-fighter prototype. It has a chiseled front-section, triangular wings, and a moving tailplanes. The Chinese J-20 seems to combine the front fuselage of the U.S. Air Force’s F-22 with the back half of Russia’s T-50 stealth prototype.

    The J-20’s appearance have shaken the aviation industry that didnt expect a Chinese Stealth fighter for a decade. The J-20 seems to signal a big step forward for the Chinese air force. The PLA-Airforce seems to have come of age. It is no longer dependent on obsolete Russian or Israeli designs.

    Is this the end of the US dominance of the air? Jittery analysts are still confused about the F-22 and the F-35.

    The analysts sounded alarm bells when the Russia’s new T-50 fighter first flew.

    The Pentagon has delayed F-35 production and China has apparently accelerated its own stealth development.

    ; the J-20 hasn’t even flown yet. It took 15 years for the F-22 to enter front-line service; considering China’s quality-control problems with high technology, it could take a decade or more for the J-20 to appear in numbers that make any difference in the Pacific balance of power. Gates might have been slightly off in his assessment of the Chinese air force, but probably not by much.

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    hmmm... me thinks it's fake...

    just by looking at the tail insignia... it isn't PLA

    prototypes and taxi run airframes aren't painted but just left with bare composite skin

    even the people in secret projects forum are skeptical
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    hmmm... me thinks it's fake...

    just by looking at the tail insignia... it isn't PLA

    prototypes and taxi run airframes aren't painted but just left with bare composite skin

    even the people in secret projects forum are skeptical






    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People'...Army_Air_Force

    Markings
    The markings of the PLAAF are a red star in front of a red band, it is very similar to the insignia of the Russian Air Force. The Red star contains the Chinese characters for eight and one,[4][5] representing August 1, 1927, the date of the formation of the PLA. PLAAF aircraft carry these markings on the fins as well.
    Last edited by Monseratto; December 28th, 2010 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Hintayin na lang natin yung stealth fighter ng China...



    http://www.dailymailtimes.com/?p=693
    Baka mas ok pa maging uncle si uncle Chin, mga bagong fighter plane tulad nito ang ibigay sa atin...di tulad ni uncle Sam, panay luma ang binibigay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Baka mas ok pa maging uncle si uncle Chin, mga bagong fighter plane tulad nito ang ibigay sa atin...di tulad ni uncle Sam, panay luma ang binibigay
    i'd say it's highly unlikely. It's one thing to provide fighter jets to a country to *defend* its borders, it's another to give them a plane that is mainly *offensive* in nature.


    And i don't think any of our pilots -- by no fault of their own since we can barely afford planes that don't crash -- are trained to handle anything that high-tech. i'd say they'd be quite confused with the instrument panels of any current fighter plane.


    imho, we'd be lucky to get their current "workhorse" planes.

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    As the Philippines still linger in a virtual state of indecisiveness and political squabbling, our Indonesian neighbor is getting 8 Apache attack helicopters from the US.

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-fi...he-helicopters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    SAMs are more economical, a US$ 1 million missle to shoot down a US$40 million plane...
    mukang tama nga kayo di pa kelangan ng pilot at napakamahal na jet fuel...pwede na yun guided missile ang panimula...or drone aircraft nalang...

    Quote Originally Posted by TholitzReloaded View Post
    Gusto kong marinig ngayon from the Senators if the ouster of US Bases was really beneficial for the Philippines, especially now with the growing tension with china.
    sino ba yun mga senators na yun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    sino ba yun mga senators na yun?
    Agapito "Butz" Aquino, Joseph Estrada, Teofisto Guingona Jr, Sotero Laurel II, Ernesto Maceda Jr, Orlando Mercado, Aquilino Pimentel Jr, Rene Saguisag, Jovito Salonga, Wigberto Taņada, Victor Ziga, and current Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile.

    Enrile is the only one still serving as a lawmaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Agapito "Butz" Aquino, Joseph Estrada, Teofisto Guingona Jr, Sotero Laurel II, Ernesto Maceda Jr, Orlando Mercado, Aquilino Pimentel Jr, Rene Saguisag, Jovito Salonga, Wigberto Taņada, Victor Ziga, and current Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile.

    Enrile is the only one still serving as a lawmaker.
    Now, after 18years what is Subic and Clark?

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    SAMs alone might not be enough. I think it has to be a layered defense composed of SAMs, AAA, radar and fighter aircraft. Similar to what Vietnam used vs he US. Use SAMs against high level threats and to break up aircraft fomations. AAA agaist low flying aircraft and fighters to ambush the survivors.

    The operators and pilots must also be well trained and proficent with their systems. SAMs and AAA should learn to shoot and scoot. This is to avoid being pinpointed and targeted by the enemy. If they are staitionary it will be easy to destroy them similar to what the US led coaliton did to Sadam's forces. If they are spread out and constantly moving like what the NVA did, they have a better survival rate.

    Maybe the Phils can buy Russian SAMs. Both man portable units and mobile systems. Russian equipment is cheaper compared to US systems and the new generation should be just about as good.

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    Interception of jets with propeller aircraft..thats silly

    The best it could keep up with is to intercept a cesna plane

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    Last edited by kisshmet; December 2nd, 2017 at 11:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Interception of jets with propeller aircraft..thats silly

    The best it could keep up with is to intercept a cesna plane

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    Thats what Embraer meant. Brazil, Colombia and Ecuador use these to intercept drug couriers using small private planes whose maximum speeds are close to the stall speeds of jet fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Thats what Embraer meant. Brazil, Colombia and Ecuador use these to intercept drug couriers using small private planes whose maximum speeds are close to the stall speeds of jet fighters.
    Yea cessna from saba

    Taiwan, china, vietnam, malaysia have jets

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    Last edited by kisshmet; December 2nd, 2017 at 05:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Yea cessna from saba

    Taiwan, china, vietnam, malaysia have jets

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    May FA-50 naman and nasa pipeline ang MRF. Iba ang purpose ng Tucano, for long duration patrols, COIN, ground support at anti-smuggling. Using a jet fighter to intercept a smuggler on a prop plane is dangerous for the fighter.

    Even Malaysia is now considering sidelining their MiGs in favor of light fighters like the FA-50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    May FA-50 naman and nasa pipeline ang MRF. Iba ang purpose ng Tucano, for long duration patrols, COIN, ground support at anti-smuggling. Using a jet fighter to intercept a smuggler on a prop plane is dangerous for the fighter.

    Even Malaysia is now considering sidelining their MiGs in favor of light fighters like the FA-50.

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    A small plane for long duration..its not even medium built aircraft..where will they place the fuel?

    Where will they place the sensors for surveillance? The more equipment you load into an aircraft the more fuel itll burn

    Its only good for ground support, period.

    Its loiter time for ground support is even questionable considering its a small aircraft. The more ordnance you load into an aircraft the more fuel it burns

    Malaysia wont go small because vietnam will upgrade their su27s with sukhoi PAKFA (russias response to f22 raptor)
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    Last edited by kisshmet; December 2nd, 2017 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Interception of jets with propeller aircraft..thats silly

    The best it could keep up with is to intercept a cesna plane

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    That's all the proceeds from selling Fort Bonifacio sale can afford🤔

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    Me and my friend have been talking about this super tucano and he informed me that this will eventually replace the ov-10s.According to him,the govt got this because it is easy to maintain and can withstand harsher conditions.


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