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    hi peeps,


    where can i find data on this? for that matter, where can i find crash test results for SEAsian cars, e.g. avanza, fortuner, kijang, etc?

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    Unless it's sold in Australia, you can't. If there are crash tests for the Australian/European Hilux, frontal crash safety should be identical to the Fortuner. Montero Sport should be the same as the Strada... and the Everest should be the same as the European Ranger.

    The APV likely meets crash requirements for cabforward designs in Japan... it has a crash structure designed with high-tensile strength steel... but those are way less stringent than US or Euro requirements.

    The Avanza? Since it's not sold in any market with crash requirements, it's a big unknown. I'd say it's probably a 2-3 star vehicle (with airbags), but due to the low-cost construction, it might even be less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    The Avanza? Since it's not sold in any market with crash requirements, it's a big unknown. I'd say it's probably a 2-3 star vehicle (with airbags), but due to the low-cost construction, it might even be less.
    OT:

    According to the Toyota website, it has a GOA body. What ever that means in crash safetyness.

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    the apv is being sold in australia. can't find the crash test results in the ancap website though...

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    Yeah, I thought of looking at that, too. Zip, zilch, nada. If anyone can read Japanese, there might be results from there.

    Quote Originally Posted by meledson View Post
    OT:

    According to the Toyota website, it has a GOA body. What ever that means in crash safetyness.
    It means they stiffened it to provide a safer crash structure... but unless they've submitted it for testing, that doesn't really mean anything. It's likely it's not as bad in a crash as an Adventure or a Crosswind, but you definitely can't compare it to global products like the Grand Livina or the Carens.

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    From http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n24908500:


    The Avanza body is Global Outstanding Assessment (GOA)-certified.
    Basically, this means that it satisfies Toyota's GOA crash tests. GOA
    crash tests are comparable to the toughest international standards and
    even exceed in some areas.

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    OT na.

    Remember the Revo sa NLEX? Even though a vehicle (IMHO) has a 7 star rating but if you are traveling at about 80 KPH and a bus going in opposite direction is traveling at more than 100 Kph. In a head on collision, I think bale wala ang 7 star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    From http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n24908500:


    The Avanza body is Global Outstanding Assessment (GOA)-certified.
    Basically, this means that it satisfies Toyota's GOA crash tests. GOA
    crash tests are comparable to the toughest international standards and
    even exceed in some areas.
    Still doesn't mean anything.

    Crash tests are not all identical. That's why the move towards EuroNCAP in europe, to standardize the setting. "Comparable" can mean anything... Comparable what? Speeds? Angles? China has crash tests now that are "comparable" to other NCAPs... but it's done at a slower speed. It's just 5 mph less, but that means a whole lot in terms of the kinetic and potential energies involved. A car which passes a 35 mph crash test may flunk a 40 mph one. And that's another point. How do you satisfy a crash test's requirements? What's considered a "pass" on a crash test?

    It's really hard to know which assessment to trust... there's C-NCAP, A-NCAP (Australian... because they have some domestic cars not sold elsewhere), IHTSA, NHTSA, etcetera... it would be nice if there was an SAE guideline released to make all crash tests uniform.

    Unless the car is submitted for an independently verified crash test by one of the big certification bodies (A-NCAP or EuroNCAP, at least), then we really don't know how it compares to other cars.
    Last edited by niky; November 17th, 2008 at 04:26 PM.

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    I completely agree with you, sir niky...

    Nag-reply lang ako sa post ni sir meledson, to define GOA.

    At gaya nga ng sabi niya, walang kwenta lahat ng crash safetiness ratings na iyan sa mga circumstances like that REVO vs. BUS incident in NLEX. Wala pa sigurong nagce-certify ng crash safetiness at 180KPH collisions... (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    hi peeps,


    where can i find data on this? for that matter, where can i find crash test results for SEAsian cars, e.g. avanza, fortuner, kijang, etc?
    Try to look Mitsubishi Maven not SUZUKI APV..


    The Mitsubishi Maven is an MPV sold by Mitsubishi Motors in Indonesia since September 15, 2005.[1] It is a rebadged Suzuki APV with minor exterior cosmetic changes, and is built locally by a subsidiary of Suzuki Motor Corporation.
    It is available in two trims, GLX and GLS, both with a 1468 cc gasoline four cylinder engine producing 87 PS (86 hp/64 kW) at 5,500 rpm, supplied by Mitsubishi's Indonesian engine production partner, P.T. Mitsubishi Krama Yudha Motors and Manufacturing.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Maven



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    aba inaadvertise ang mitsu ha

    either way pareho lang naman yung 2 since maven got it from apv. .

    question, sinong mas marami, maven or apv?

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    APV since the Maven is sold to a specific market only unlike the APV which is sold internationally.

    Yes, the APV is sold in Oz but I think it is sold as a commercial vehicle which follow less rigid safety regulations.

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