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    Quote Originally Posted by b_9904 View Post
    Afiak, myth na ngayon ang break in.
    Well nasa may ari yan, kung hindi na niniwala sa breakin e di rat ratin mo yung bago mong sasakyan. Sa iyo naman yan eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelany View Post
    Well nasa may ari yan, kung hindi na niniwala sa breakin e di rat ratin mo yung bago mong sasakyan. Sa iyo naman yan eh.
    Been there done that.

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    im torn between mirage and celerio.
    fc, parts availability, reliability ng car etc.

    first time ko kukuha ng car sana ma approved.
    question ano ang pros and cons nito compared sa mirage hb glx?

    at sana may makapag refer din sa akin, natatakot kasi akong ma disapproved dahil may deliquent akong c.card wayback 2009.

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    FC, Mirage and Celerio are neck-in-neck in terms of ultimate highway economy, even for the AT variants... though it seems the Celerio has an advantage in traffic.

    Interior quality here is better, as well as driving dynamics. The Mirage has more legroom and, if I recall right, slightly softer seats.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    FC, Mirage and Celerio are neck-in-neck in terms of ultimate highway economy, even for the AT variants... though it seems the Celerio has an advantage in traffic.

    Interior quality here is better, as well as driving dynamics. The Mirage has more legroom and, if I recall right, slightly softer seats.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    FC, Mirage and Celerio are neck-in-neck in terms of ultimate highway economy, even for the AT variants... though it seems the Celerio has an advantage in traffic.

    Interior quality here is better, as well as driving dynamics. The Mirage has more legroom and, if I recall right, slightly softer seats.
    Dapat itong cars na Ito ang mas itax kaysa uber black, kasi mas malaki kitA

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Dapat itong cars na Ito ang mas itax kaysa uber black, kasi mas malaki kitA
    Has anybody use a celerio for business applications? like uber, taxi, company service?
    Matibay din kaya ito kung hinde owner driven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Dapat itong cars na Ito ang mas itax kaysa uber black, kasi mas malaki kitA
    Punishing an owner for "merit"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by polgas13 View Post
    im torn between mirage and celerio.
    fc, parts availability, reliability ng car etc.

    first time ko kukuha ng car sana ma approved.
    question ano ang pros and cons nito compared sa mirage hb glx?

    at sana may makapag refer din sa akin, natatakot kasi akong ma disapproved dahil may deliquent akong c.card wayback 2009.
    Asa sales mo na yan. Ganu niya e aayos paper mo. If employee ka make sure na ok din makaka usap ng bank sa office mo.. mas ok sir upuan mo pareho. Then e feel mo kung ano mas gusto mo e drive sa dalawa.

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    pde po a sa uber or grabcar ito? mgkano po kaya maintenance nito for every 1 month? (2nd option ko po ang celerio, mahal kc ng hyundai accent crdi ehe)

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    B.I.r. is trying to kill uber and grab car. I don't understand the government. Pera pera lang talaga vs public convenience. Almost 90 percent sa MM taxi requested for dagdag sinquenta sir. And they drive like hell. Protected pa sa government natin. Uber drivers are just me and you who try to earn a more decent living during off office hours. Extra income to buy basic goods which are heavily taxed already

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    B.I.r. is trying to kill uber and grab car. I don't understand the government. Pera pera lang talaga vs public convenience. Almost 90 percent sa MM taxi requested for dagdag sinquenta sir. And they drive like hell. Protected pa sa government natin. Uber drivers are just me and you who try to earn a more decent living during off office hours. Extra income to buy basic goods which are heavily taxed already
    if Uber and grab taxi aren't paying the correct taxes, do we just condone it because they are trying to eke out a living? taxes are lifeblood of the state without which the latter cannot function. it is the obligation of every citizen of this country to pay the right taxes. we, professionals, working in government, have to shell out Php6,000 to Php7,000 per month to the government as witholding tax. we di not complain because we are obligated to. you are an Uber driver? may Uber ba sa cebu? di ba andami mong sasakyan? lahat na sasakyan parang binabash mo yata except your vios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    if Uber and grab taxi aren't paying the correct taxes, do we just condone it because they are trying to eke out a living? taxes are lifeblood of the state without which the latter cannot function. it is the obligation of every citizen of this country to pay the right taxes. we, professionals, working in government, have to shell out Php6,000 to Php7,000 per month to the government as witholding tax. we di not complain because we are obligated to. you are an Uber driver? may Uber ba sa cebu? di ba andami mong sasakyan? lahat na sasakyan parang binabash mo yata except your vios.
    Correction, taxes are the cash cow of the socialists and populists, as if there is a real difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_9904 View Post
    Correction, taxes are the cash cow of the socialists and populists, as if there is a real difference between the two.
    there is nothing to correct!
    taxes are the lifeblood of any decent government that does not have oil flowing thru its nawasa pipes.
    so how does government pave and maintain the roads we (you!) are using?
    shall we (the citizen) insist that you keep the segment of road in front of your house, in good order? to re-pave if necessary, at your expense?
    will you agree to do 4 hours doing traffic control on the busy street of your choice, so that government does not have to spend for the service?
    because if you and a few other tens of millions agree to do that and a few other things, government will not have to collect too many taxes. government will not have to milk too many cows for spending money. (irony and hyperbole. look them up.)
    if you can't be part of the solution, at least have the decency not be part of the problem.

    OT, but i can't let this pass.
    Last edited by dr. d; December 29th, 2015 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    there is nothing to correct!
    taxes are the lifeblood of any decent government that does not have oil flowing thru its nawasa pipes.
    so how does government pave and maintain the roads we (you!) are using?
    shall we (the citizen) insist that you keep the segment of road in front of your house, in good order? to re-pave if necessary, at your expense?
    will you agree to do 4 hours doing traffic control on the busy street of your choice, so that government does not have to spend for the service?
    because if you and a few other tens of millions agree to do that and a few other things, government will not have to collect too many taxes. government will not have to milk too many cows for spending money. (irony and hyperbole. look them up.)
    if you can't be part of the solution, at least have the decency not be part of the problem.

    OT, but i can't let this pass.
    You are off tangent bro.

    I was not attacking the reason for tax but its use, or misuse rather.

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    So "socialism" is a misuse of taxes? Ironic, considering transport, power, services and information infrastructure is highly socialist in nature, and in cases where it is capitalist (typically via monopoly, as with Meralco), it is highly regulated, with government pulling the strings and having executive power over the providers.

    All states are socialist to some degree, redistributing wealth through services. The only difference is who they choose to provide those services to, and how.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    So "socialism" is a misuse of taxes? Ironic, considering transport, power, services and information infrastructure is highly socialist in nature, and in cases where it is capitalist (typically via monopoly, as with Meralco), it is highly regulated, with government pulling the strings and having executive power over the providers.

    All states are socialist to some degree, redistributing wealth through services. The only difference is who they choose to provide those services to, and how.
    What is the breaking point of the subjects of tax?

    Is government regulation and government rendered services efficient ans effective?

    Should we pay for others contraceptives?

    Should we perpetually support people on welfare?

    Should taxes be.....

    The list goes on.

    It is too early and a smart phone aint easy to debate one. Will get back to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    So "socialism" is a misuse of taxes? Ironic, considering transport, power, services and information infrastructure is highly socialist in nature, and in cases where it is capitalist (typically via monopoly, as with Meralco), it is highly regulated, with government pulling the strings and having executive power over the providers.

    All states are socialist to some degree, redistributing wealth through services. The only difference is who they choose to provide those services to, and how.
    Let's agree to disagree since this thread is getting hi jacked na pero...

    I would like to correct your concepts:

    On socialism: Socialism | Definition of Socialism by Merriam-Webster

    On populists: Populist | Definition of Populist by Merriam-Webster

    So free healthcare and insurance are socialist policies but the military, police, infrastructure, government administration ARE NOT because these are not really industries but inherent in the reason why we built government.

    FREE relocation for squatters is populist. :D

    Hope that helps.

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    Moderator's Warning:

    All, one third of the posts in this thread are off topic.

    Please go back to discussing the Suzuki Celerio. All OT posts will be deleted.


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    Last edited by _Cathy_; December 30th, 2015 at 02:26 PM.

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    ",,, shall we play a nice game of chess..?"

    i was thinking of a manual celerio..
    the wigo's MT pedals are too near each other.. my feet bump into each other.
    does anyone know if this problem is also seen in the MT celerio?
    sarado showrooms yata..

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