2023 Suzuki Ertiga Hybrid

[111prez]

Possible pricing: These might be the Suzuki Ertiga Hybrid’s pricing for PH when launched - AutoPH



Looks like the local release is on the horizon

[Vodka]

mild hybrid. it's mild so mild increase in fuel efficiency. mild increase in power. i'm not even sure if it's worth the added mild increase in cost and mild increase in complexity

i just hope the whole car doesn't get bricked when it detects a fault in the hybrid system

[papi smith]

How's a mild hybrid different from a hybrid?

[carxynogen]

mild hybrid. it's mild so mild increase in fuel efficiency. mild increase in power. i'm not even sure if it's worth the added mild increase in cost and mild increase in complexity

i just hope the whole car doesn't get bricked when it detects a fault in the hybrid system

Using Hybrid word for marketing but mababasa mo nalang sa brochure yung exact Mild Hybrid na napakaliit na phrase.
Gusto makakuha ng market share from Toyota eh.
Almost every car manufacturer our now riding on the EV marketing craze.

[Vodka]

How's a mild hybrid different from a hybrid?

mild hybrid only has ISG integrated starter/generator and small battery. ISG replaces both the alternator and starter so it's very cost optimized and the battery is small so it's cheap. but isg is small so it doesn't give a big boost in power. then there's the annoying auto start/stop so the ISG should not have any trouble doing this but one thing i noticed w/ my K15B engine is that it starts up super fast so it's probably gonna start even faster and quieter w/ the ISG

[papi smith]

I'm not sure, but I googled ISG, and it seems it's a hybrid with a start stop system, maybe that's why they call it smart. Anyway, I was just curious. If I were to buy another car, it's probably 5 years down the road, and we don't need hybrids to save on fuel, cause we don't really do any mileage. I think I hybrids are for sales fleets.

[Vodka]

I'm not sure, but I googled ISG, and it seems it's a hybrid with a start stop system, maybe that's why they call it smart. Anyway, I was just curious. If I were to buy another car, it's probably 5 years down the road, and we don't need hybrids to save on fuel, cause we don't really do any mileage. I think I hybrids are for sales fleets.

a strong hybrid can run the car purely on electric power for a certain short distance. ertiga hybrid can't do this

[ice15]

How's a mild hybrid different from a hybrid?

there are different types of hybrids.

In a mild hybrid system, the electric motor (and battery) is not big enough to move the vehicle. It does not have an EV mode.
so basically, it supports the car's engine when extra power is needed.

unlike the Prius where the EV engine moves the vehicle when travelling at low speeds.

don't expect Kicks or Prius F/C from a mild hybrid (like the Ertiga or the Okavango), but you're still exempted from coding.

[thearsenal1205]

"mild" hybrid na ba lahat ang engine ng Ertiga? no more non hybrid version?

[ice15]

"mild" hybrid na ba lahat ang engine ng Ertiga? no more non hybrid version?

di pa announced yung hybrid version (mamayang hapon pa), so kung bibili ka this morning, malamang non-hybrid pa sya

no info yet if Suzuki PH will discontinue the non-hybrid version

pero if the rumored price of the hybrid version is true... pwede pa nila ibaba yung entry level non-hybrid Ertiga since the Avanza starts at 833K

[dr. d]

i think the main rayson de etre of hybrid cars, is the pollution and environmental factor.
"whether they equal or not, the traditional internal combustion engine, is a bonus, at this time."
baby steps.

my thoughts.

[ice15]

i think the main rayson de etre of hybrid cars, is the pollution and environmental factor.
"whether they equal or not, the traditional internal combustion engine, is a bonus, at this time."
baby steps.

my thoughts.

mild hybrid tech allows manufacturers to use a small engine on a big vehicle (using the Okavango as an example)

there's no way a turbo 1.5L engine can power a vehicle its size (remember the 1.5L Tamaraw FX and how bad it was )

so on idle, or highway cruising... the Okavango will give you figures (F/C and Pollution) similar to a regular sized vehicle with a 1.5L turbo engine.

but the mild hybrid system allows you to have
- more power from standstill (and when the vehicle has a heavy load)
- more power when accelerating (overtaking)
- run with the ICE off (normally downhill from Baguio)

mild hybrids are also cheaper as they have a smaller battery

[ice15]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NnbIb1ClmtY&feature=shares

[coiter]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NnbIb1ClmtY&feature=shares

nice may cruise and climate controls but why did they remove the center armrests?? lol

edited: my bad. may center armrest pa pala sa 2nd row based on the other videos. they still retained the 4AT though when in India it has a 6AT.

[111prez]

A look only ...

[111prez]

Another look and a drive ...

[111prez]

Launched na pala and here are the prices:

Pricing for the 2023 Suzuki Ertiga Hybrid is as follows:

Ertiga Hybrid GA M/T – PHP 954,000

Ertiga Hybrid GL M/T – PHP 1,068,000

Ertiga Hybrid GL A/T – PHP 1,103,000

Ertiga Hybrid GLX A/T – PHP 1,153,000

source: https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...ga-hybrid.html

[ice15]

Launched na pala and here are the prices:

Pricing for the 2023 Suzuki Ertiga Hybrid is as follows:

Ertiga Hybrid GA M/T – PHP 954,000

Ertiga Hybrid GL M/T – PHP 1,068,000

Ertiga Hybrid GL A/T – PHP 1,103,000

Ertiga Hybrid GLX A/T – PHP 1,153,000

source: https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...ga-hybrid.html

wow. Manual na mild hybrid. looks like mawawala na regular ICE version locally

[Vodka]

Explained! How Maruti's SHVS System Works - Team-BHP

very nice technical explanation on how it works. apparently the regular starter motor was retained so the ISG only starts the engine during auto start stop aka A.S.S.

take note ISG works through the belt. this car is gonna be a belt snapper perfect for noobs who pay zero attention to their belt's age

[ice15]

very nice technical explanation on how it works. apparently the regular starter motor was retained so the ISG only starts the engine during auto start stop aka A.S.S.

if I remember correctly (from a local video I watched)

Suzuki replaced the alternator

(my personal opinion)
The old ICE only Ertiga (as per review and my colleagues who owns one) is the most fuel efficient MPV in its class.
So even if you still get the same FC with this hybrid version, its not bad.

Biggest plus is the hybrid version's A/C will work even with the engine off. so for those times when you go out to withdraw sa ATM, or waiting for your order sa drive through, or just waiting for a friend sa parking lot... your car will not be burning gas.