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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    are the usual published suspension adjustment specifications supposed to be adjusted with the vehicle devoid of driver and passenger/load?
    For over 40 years of experience as a Tech and thirty years as an instructor, I have never seen wheel alignment specs with the driver on board. The specs may vary depending on which side of the road it is to be driven. Adjustments are made using curb weight(with a tankful of fuel). If the fuel tank is less than full, you compensate by adding a corresponding weight where the fuel tank is located(around 6 pounds of gasoline per gallon.

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    If a certain make/model of vehicle specifies 0 degrees front toe, with some sort of tolerance, I will always request positive 0.03-05° total toe-in. I find this makes the vehicle more stable straight ahead, without the need for tiring minor corrections every few seconds.

    For the back, up to 0.10° total toe-in will keep you on the straight and narrow.

    But always request that the adjustments be made as equal side-to-side as possible.

    If you get a printout with the desired total toe, but with positive toe(in) on one side and negative toe(out) on the other, do ask for a redo upon being handed the alignment printout. Front toe in on one side and out on the other will result in a crooked steering wheel even when you are driving straight-ahead.

    Also, unless the shop does not have a steering wheel lock (keeps the wheel straight during front adjustments), always ask for it to be utilized during your alignment.

    Finally, on the day before or week before your alignment, pick up a quality tire pressure gauge. Before you go to your alignment, check your cold/ pre-driven tire pressures against the info in your owners manual, or the sticker somewhere on your vehicle frame.

    On U.S. models, it is almost always affixed to the drivers B-pillar. On cars in the Philippines, it may be affixed anywhere, or not at all.

    Correct tire pressure will assist in a more effective alignment, and better handling and ride afterwards.

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    Try drive plus manila..#81 panay Avenue, south triangle TRUE QC

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Please recommend a shop in Metro Manila that does this properly. Competent mechanics, modern equipment, but not as expensive as casa.
    JIGA : Evangelista, Makati
    P1300 6mos warranty
    0906 277 5820

    SeaOil gas station : E Rodriguez, QC (near Rotunda)
    P800 3mos warranty
    0927 607 4970

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidCoronel View Post
    JIGA : Evangelista, Makati
    P1300 6mos warranty
    0906 277 5820

    SeaOil gas station : E Rodriguez, QC (near Rotunda)
    P800 3mos warranty
    0927 607 4970
    hunter gamit nila bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidCoronel View Post
    JIGA : Evangelista, Makati
    P1300 6mos warranty
    0906 277 5820

    SeaOil gas station : E Rodriguez, QC (near Rotunda)
    P800 3mos warranty
    0927 607 4970
    Ang tanong dyan ANO ANG INCLUDED sa service..

    Madalas kasi toe in toe out lang adjustment..

    Pero may ibang suspension na adjustable yung camber and caster..

    Sa goodyear servitek 400 or 450 yung toe in toe out.. pag camber nasa 1k yata

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    Hindi ba pwede icamber at wheel alignment kapag basag wheel hub bearing?
    Gastos nanaman

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCe2KnowU View Post
    Hindi ba pwede icamber at wheel alignment kapag basag wheel hub bearing?
    Gastos nanaman

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    if i were me... i would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCe2KnowU View Post
    Hindi ba pwede icamber at wheel alignment kapag basag wheel hub bearing?
    Gastos nanaman

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    Cannot be. May play na kasi due to the busted bearing. That's why most shops won't perform an alignment if something's wrong with your suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Cannot be. May play na kasi due to the busted bearing. That's why most shops won't perform an alignment if something's wrong with your suspension.

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    Yes, they will first check that your suspension is healthy. If not, they will not perform the alignment. That's SOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    looks pricey dyan bro hehehe
    But they're good. Bridgestone Tire Center on Pasong Tamo is also good alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Cannot be. May play na kasi due to the busted bearing. That's why most shops won't perform an alignment if something's wrong with your suspension.

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    Thanks SA maliwanag na sagot...
    Pudpod kasi gulong ko SA harap naka negative na Yung gulong NG car na di masyadong ginagamit dito balak ko ipaayos, pinagawa ko na tie rod nun then Sabi ni mekaniko sur basag na wheel hub bearing.
    naalala ko Lang balak ko kasi icamber alignment next week.

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    when your vehicle has handling concerns, first you have your suspension checked for worn out, failed parts (analyze the cause of the part failure)
    then have a prealignment check:

    tire age, pressure, size and condition
    ride height
    wheelbase measured (both sides)
    place the vehicle at curb weight (compensate lost fuel by adding a commensurate weight- 6 pounds per gallon)

    then do the alignment routine:
    rear camber
    rear toe
    thrust angle
    front camber
    caster
    kingpin inclination
    toe out on turns
    front toe
    over center adjustment
    front wheel setback
    steering angle sensor reset if applicable


    anything less is just pretend and incomplete wheel alignment

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina_nuka View Post
    when your vehicle has handling concerns, first you have your suspension checked for worn out, failed parts (analyze the cause of the part failure)
    then have a prealignment check:

    tire age, pressure, size and condition
    ride height
    wheelbase measured (both sides)
    place the vehicle at curb weight (compensate lost fuel by adding a commensurate weight- 6 pounds per gallon)

    then do the alignment routine:
    rear camber
    rear toe
    thrust angle
    front camber
    caster
    kingpin inclination
    toe out on turns
    front toe
    over center adjustment
    front wheel setback
    steering angle sensor reset if applicable


    anything less is just pretend and incomplete wheel alignment
    Noted sir...[emoji1417]
    Dami [emoji54]

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina_nuka View Post
    when your vehicle has handling concerns, first you have your suspension checked for worn out, failed parts (analyze the cause of the part failure)
    then have a prealignment check:

    tire age, pressure, size and condition
    ride height
    wheelbase measured (both sides)
    place the vehicle at curb weight (compensate lost fuel by adding a commensurate weight- 6 pounds per gallon)

    then do the alignment routine:
    rear camber
    rear toe
    thrust angle
    front camber
    caster
    kingpin inclination
    toe out on turns
    front toe
    over center adjustment
    front wheel setback
    steering angle sensor reset if applicable


    anything less is just pretend and incomplete wheel alignment
    Who does this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina_nuka View Post
    when your vehicle has handling concerns, first you have your suspension checked for worn out, failed parts (analyze the cause of the part failure)
    then have a prealignment check:

    tire age, pressure, size and condition
    ride height
    wheelbase measured (both sides)
    place the vehicle at curb weight (compensate lost fuel by adding a commensurate weight- 6 pounds per gallon)

    then do the alignment routine:
    rear camber
    rear toe
    thrust angle
    front camber
    caster
    kingpin inclination
    toe out on turns
    front toe
    over center adjustment
    front wheel setback
    steering angle sensor reset if applicable


    anything less is just pretend and incomplete wheel alignment
    Well there is what you call basic wheel alignment that is toe alignment, camber and caster which can be done in any servitek with hunter alignment equipment and if it is applicable to your vehicle..

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    ^ pang formula 1 yatang alignment Yan mga sur [emoji1]
    Ginagamit ko Lang pra bumili ng pandesal car naming extra kya ok na yung simpleng alignment Lang pambawas pudpod SA gulong

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCe2KnowU View Post
    ^ pang formula 1 yatang alignment Yan mga sur [emoji1]
    Ginagamit ko Lang pra bumili ng pandesal car naming extra kya ok na yung simpleng alignment Lang pambawas pudpod SA gulong

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    post of the year

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    #18
    Yup, ang OA naman kasi eh. Extreme masyaso. “Pretend wheel alignment” na agad without regard to whether or not a lesser procedure is sufficient na for the 95% of the vehicles in the PH.

    Tapos ang kicker, wala naman pala dito sa PH ganyang service.

    Yes, Disneyland is definitely better than Enchanted Kingdom, but it’s irrelevant kung ang scope ng question only covers the best theme park in the PH.

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    ano ibig sabihin nun after adjustment sa front, di nila kaya gawin 0° perfect yun?

    thanks!

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    ano ibig sabihin nun after adjustment sa front, di nila kaya gawin 0° perfect yun?

    thanks!

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    Nasa acceptable range na.. di naman talaga ma perpek yan kasi may error din talaga sa rim imperfections, machine calibration etc...

    Sakin dapat yung 3d alignment machine talaga gamit at may specific car model na installed dun sa machine.. madalas ngayon hunter na gamit or yung john bean
    Last edited by yapoy86; October 16th, 2019 at 03:35 PM.

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