uneven tire bite

[notEworthy27]

on all four tires maspudpod ang nasa outer thread ng tire.yung nasa loob makapal pa. what could be the cause of this? is it safe to flip the tire? backside will be the frontside na.

[ILuvDetailing]

You might need to check your wheel alignment.

[zero]

toe in ba ang term nila dito?
naka-pike ang gulong.

[rsnald]

pwede din under-inflated lahat ng tires, so the tendency is the outer rim sags and gets worn out first. Kung toe in...sa harap lang dapat yung worn out pattern, malabo naman na pati yung rear tires naka toe in. best if you bring it to the nearest servitek.

[notEworthy27]

if its the toe in alignment. then bakit pati ang likod? is it ok to flip the tires?

[normanenoza]

camber allignment lang yan pre

[jim]

basta suspension problem yan or incorrect tire pressure. most probably your front and rear camber needs to be checked and corrected. check your shocks if they are still performing well.

[notEworthy27]

I think I should also get my tires checked.Mejo madalas na kasi na mejo lumalambot ang tires. is it ok to flip the tires?

[jim]

to answer your question about flipping tires check first kung uni directional (performance tires usually are uni directional) ang tires mo. most tires especially passenger tires pwedeng iflip dahil bi-directional sila. pero kung performance tire yan i doubt kung pwede.

[normanenoza]

in the case of underinflated or overinflated ang gulong, dapat nasa both outer thread ang pudpod and center thread pag overinflated.so definitely camber allignment and suspension check-up ang kailangan mo.but flipping the tires would be ur cheapest alternative.

[notEworthy27]

exactly. I'll flip the tires na lang muna. sana walang problema sa suspension. I was told before that upon lifting the tbars, the alignment can be a little hard to fix.

[kimpOy]

pwede yan bi directional ang tires mo, di ba pareho tayong naka bridgestone MT

[SunTzu]

malamang mayadong positive ang camber mo.

[notEworthy27]

tingin ko sa tbar crank..what doyou think?

[Ungas]

on all four tires maspudpod ang nasa outer thread ng tire.yung nasa loob makapal pa. what could be the cause of this? is it safe to flip the tire? backside will be the frontside na.

Common yan for IFS-torsion bars setups, lalo na pag wala sa camber alignment. Tuwing full turn mo medyo naka-hilig sa outer tread yung mga goma plus ito ang humihila ng buong front weight ng sasakyan.

Pwede mong i-swap left-right & vice versa pero mas ramdam mo ang tread vibrations, kasi dun na umukit/nasanay ang upod ng goma. Mas maganda kung front-rear swap and hope na pumantay ang upod pag nilipat sa hulihan.

[notEworthy27]

Common yan for IFS-torsion bars setups, lalo na pag wala sa camber alignment. Tuwing full turn mo medyo naka-hilig sa outer tread yung mga goma plus ito ang humihila ng buong front weight ng sasakyan.

Pwede mong i-swap left-right & vice versa pero mas ramdam mo ang tread vibrations, kasi dun na umukit/nasanay ang upod ng goma. Mas maganda kung front-rear swap and hope na pumantay ang upod pag nilipat sa hulihan.

I did swith the tire from front to rear. hmmm...parang kelangan na ng suspension lift... :D

[geebunny]

Ano ba ang ride mo? Have it checked by experts and see kung ano ang sasabihin nila.

[Ungas]

Mas lalong madali ang tread wear pag suspension lifted sabay di tama ang alignment.

[notEworthy27]

Mas lalong madali ang tread wear pag suspension lifted sabay di tama ang alignment.

kung maayos ba ang alignment tas ng pa suspension lift kit ganun parin ang tread wear?

If only the outer treads are worn, this can very well mean too much POSITIVE camber on a MacPherson strut type suspension. Another reason for this is cornering too fast on double-A arms suspension with a weak anti-roll bar. (For some reason, McPherson struts aren't as much susceptible to this as are double-A arms suspensions.)

Why the uneven wear pattern occurs on ALL 4 tires is because you "rotated" the tires front-to-back on the same side. What's likely happening is your front suspension has too much positive camber thus causing the uneven wear pattern, and switching tires on the same side merely exposed the previously unworn tires to the same stress, thus affecting all 4 tires.

But if your car has 4-wheel independent suspension, it's also possible that all 4 corners have been wrongly cambered.

Independent suspensions normally have a little bit of NEGATIVE camber dialed in to counter the tendency of the tires to lean together with the car during turns.

To ease some of the confusion:
Positive Camber = tires of the same axle are closer at the bottom (parang toe-in pababa)

Negative Camber = tires of the same axle lean inwards at the top.

Hope that helps.

thanks! this did help a lot. will the right offset in wheels be able to compensate for the positive camber since the tbars are cranked and will give that positive camber?

[Shadetree MKNX]

kung maayos ba ang alignment tas ng pa suspension lift kit ganun parin ang tread wear?

Suspension lifts done on an independent suspension system can be very tricky, unless you buy a kit that's been designed specifically for your vehicle. (I'm assuming we're talking about an independent suspension, because live axles don't have any camber). Nevertheless, if the lift kit is designed properly, and the camber is correct, there shouldn't be any problems with alignment regardless of what tire size you use.

thanks! this did help a lot. will the right offset in wheels be able to compensate for the positive camber since the tbars are cranked and will give that positive camber?

Wheel offset will not DIRECTLY affect camber, and may not even affect it noticeably, given normal amounts of offset. In theory, however, the more farther out the wheels are centered, the more loading you put on the suspension, hence promoting more negative camber.

If the t-bar springs were repositioned to add more ride height, then yes, that would affect the amount of flex on the control arms, indirectly adding more positive camber. That is definitely the WRONG way to do a lift on an independent suspension system.