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    Good day mga sir,
    lately nung nag kalas kami ng gulong ko para mag paint ng brake calipers eh ang hirap tanggaling ng mga lugnuts ko, as in sobrang ganit na gumamit pa kami ng tubo na parang nag kakalas ng lugnuts sa jeep.. after nung natanggal namin lahat.. we found out na puru kalawang na pala ang lug nuts at ung stud ba tawag don? yung 4 na turnilyo po..attach ko yung pic


    ganyan po..
    now ang question ko eh anong pwede kong ipangtanggal diyan? pwede ba ang WD40? o dangerous yun? should i replace my lugnuts na po?

    SiR 99 nga pala po ang ride ko,
    thanks po sa mga makakahelp..

    TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalandan27 View Post
    Good day mga sir,
    lately nung nag kalas kami ng gulong ko para mag paint ng brake calipers eh ang hirap tanggaling ng mga lugnuts ko, as in sobrang ganit na gumamit pa kami ng tubo na parang nag kakalas ng lugnuts sa jeep.. after nung natanggal namin lahat.. we found out na puru kalawang na pala ang lug nuts at ung stud ba tawag don? yung 4 na turnilyo po..attach ko yung pic


    ganyan po..
    now ang question ko eh anong pwede kong ipangtanggal diyan? pwede ba ang WD40? o dangerous yun? should i replace my lugnuts na po?

    SiR 99 nga pala po ang ride ko,
    thanks po sa mga makakahelp..

    TIA!


    lugnuts and stud bolts have always been the neglected part. before installation of the wheel, it is recommended to apply a light dab of anti seize compound or wheel bearing grease to the stud bolt threads and the hub where the aluminum wheel reacts with the steel hub and seize. this simple procedure takes care of the difficulty or removing the tire/wheel removal from the car and prevents the stud bolts from rusting and "welding" itself to the lugnuts

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    thanks for the reply sir, would you give me a brand dun po sa tinutukoy nio na anti seize compound or wheel bearing grease na mabibili sa ace or suking shop, and will it be safe naman kaya po? kasi di ba parang dudulas siya eh baka on higher speed eh mag loose dahil sa dulas. and san ko po ba siya mismo iaaply? dun ba sa apat na parang turnilyo? stud bolts? im planning to buy a new set of lugnuts na din.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalandan27 View Post
    thanks for the reply sir, would you give me a brand dun po sa tinutukoy nio na anti seize compound or wheel bearing grease na mabibili sa ace or suking shop, and will it be safe naman kaya po? kasi di ba parang dudulas siya eh baka on higher speed eh mag loose dahil sa dulas. and san ko po ba siya mismo iaaply? dun ba sa apat na parang turnilyo? stud bolts? im planning to buy a new set of lugnuts na din.
    any NLGI 2 wheel bearing grease will do. apply sparingly on the threads of the stud bolts and around the hub where the brake rotor fits around and the wheel fits around. this will also make removal of the brake rotors for resurfacing aside from ease of wheel removal in case of tire problems. there had been myths that the lug nuts loosen up while the car is in motion, this is not true as long as you properly install the wheel and install and torque the lug nuts in sequence.

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    Yes sir lagyan mo lang ng grease yan, pero sa itsura nya mas ok kung lagyan mo na muna ng rust converter, para matangal din yung mga kalawang at saka mo lagyan ng grease, pag maghigpit ka ng mga lugnut medyo alalay lang wag sobrang higpit

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    sir ano po bang brand or yung mismong name na sinasabi nio na rust converter? siya ba yung magtatanggal sa kalawang? open end kasi yung lugnuts ko, and balak ko sprayan ko na lang muna ng WD40 tapos saka ko kakalasin and then saka ko lagyan ng grease, at ok lang ba na WD40 ang gamitin? or suggest pa po kayo ng mga pwedeng pantanggal ng kalawang..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalandan27 View Post
    sir ano po bang brand or yung mismong name na sinasabi nio na rust converter? siya ba yung magtatanggal sa kalawang? open end kasi yung lugnuts ko, and balak ko sprayan ko na lang muna ng WD40 tapos saka ko kakalasin and then saka ko lagyan ng grease, at ok lang ba na WD40 ang gamitin? or suggest pa po kayo ng mga pwedeng pantanggal ng kalawang..
    Turco ang brand nang rust converter.

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    check mo muna kung ok pa mga bolts kasi kung na-pwersa yan during removal ng nuts e baka may crack na, better to replace at mura lang naman yan. madali lang naman tangalin yan, pinapalo lang ng hammer. pag-install naman e bumili ka ng extra lug nuts at yun gamitin mo pang-hatak ng bolts dun sa drum. then use new lug nuts for installing the wheels.

    yung name ng anti-zeize e "copper coat", "copaslip", "neverseez" and "Permatex Anti-Seize", ewan ko lang kung available mga yan sa banawe. usually sa industrial supply yan.

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    thanks for the reeplies mga sir, ok pa naman wala pa naman pong cracks.. ang prob ko lang talaga eh yung mga corrosion at rust.. now, nung tinanggal namin eh parang niliha ng konte para mabawasan ang rust, ok po ba yun or delikado? hanap na lang muna ako ng mga anti-seize then itry ko tanggaling mga rust..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalandan27 View Post
    sir ano po bang brand or yung mismong name na sinasabi nio na rust converter? siya ba yung magtatanggal sa kalawang? open end kasi yung lugnuts ko, and balak ko sprayan ko na lang muna ng WD40 tapos saka ko kakalasin and then saka ko lagyan ng grease, at ok lang ba na WD40 ang gamitin? or suggest pa po kayo ng mga pwedeng pantanggal ng kalawang..
    Yes Turco nga yung brand ng rust converter, iapply mo gamit ang brush after antayin mo matuyo, tapos lagyan mo na ng grease, ok din yung WD40 kaso temporary lang yan at mabilis din mawala agad, kung mahirap na pihitin yung lugnuts mo, it means hindi na pantay yung thread ng lugbolts, palit ka na lang lugbolts

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    I have read in some car owners manual that they never advised in putting grease on the hub bolt, their advise is just to clean it with steel brush. The reason is that with grease or lubricant in the hub bolt, may cause you to over tighten the nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulgozon View Post
    I have read in some car owners manual that they never advised in putting grease on the hub bolt, their advise is just to clean it with steel brush. The reason is that with grease or lubricant in the hub bolt, may cause you to over tighten the nut.
    in an effort to correct the corrosion and seizing of the stud bolts and the wheel from binding to the hub, the grease is my recommendation. with the concern of the possibility of over torquing the lug nuts, it is human error to over tighten it, that's why a torque wrench is recommended for use on this procedure. the service lug wrench you carry around the car should be enough for proper torque in the absence of a torque wrench and should never be extended with a pipe or similar object nor stand on the opposite end of the service lug wrench to tighten the lug nuts. if the lug nuts are seized, they too are subject to over torquing in the process of removal if they are rusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    in an effort to correct the corrosion and seizing of the stud bolts and the wheel from binding to the hub, the grease is my recommendation. with the concern of the possibility of over torquing the lug nuts, it is human error to over tighten it, that's why a torque wrench is recommended for use on this procedure. the service lug wrench you carry around the car should be enough for proper torque in the absence of a torque wrench and should never be extended with a pipe or similar object nor stand on the opposite end of the service lug wrench to tighten the lug nuts. if the lug nuts are seized, they too are subject to over torquing in the process of removal if they are rusted

    I agree to this

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    today, nov12 at around 1000, i witnessed a "mechanic" overtorqued lug nuts on an unusual color porsche (blue) in banaue street. i feel sorry for the car. the owner more than likely doesn't know nor have an idea fo the torque specs for the lug nut. from the looks of it, as the mechanic was tghtening the lug nuts/bolts on the car by pushing downward with force that i think is way too much for the bolt. this malpractice is both dangerous and damaging to the car. overtorquing leads to pssible fractures on the bolts from stretching aside from possible warping of the brake rotors. friends, if you have to install tilres back to the car, please use torque wrench whenever possible to avoid damage to the car or avoid accidents from runaway tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    today, nov12 at around 1000, i witnessed a "mechanic" overtorqued lug nuts on an unusual color porsche (blue) in banaue street. i feel sorry for the car. the owner more than likely doesn't know nor have an idea fo the torque specs for the lug nut. from the looks of it, as the mechanic was tghtening the lug nuts/bolts on the car by pushing downward with force that i think is way too much for the bolt. this malpractice is both dangerous and damaging to the car. overtorquing leads to pssible fractures on the bolts from stretching aside from possible warping of the brake rotors. friends, if you have to install tilres back to the car, please use torque wrench whenever possible to avoid damage to the car or avoid accidents from runaway tires.
    porche uses lugbolts. in my opinion is a pain in the ass when it comes to installing back the tires and lining up the holes. lalo na when it is fat ass wide tyres.

    yes bihira ako makakita ng gumagamit ng torque wrench dito sa atin maski as simple as for torqueing mag wheels

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    do it right even when you do something wrong. haahaahaa

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    All use the trusted tanchameter..

    Infairness, SNR tire peeps use torque wrench for the wheel nuts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    porche uses lugbolts. in my opinion is a pain in the ass when it comes to installing back the tires and lining up the holes. lalo na when it is fat ass wide tyres.

    yes bihira ako makakita ng gumagamit ng torque wrench dito sa atin maski as simple as for torqueing mag wheels
    na-mana nang porsche yang lugbolts from grandfather beetle.
    i agree, hassle i-balik ang wheel ng beetles namin, laluna if the tyre is oversize.
    we learned to use the cross wrench to pull the heavy wheel upward.
    'buti na lang, our ancient VWs' drums and disks are iron and not as sensitive to torqueing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    na-mana nang porsche yang lugbolts from grandfather beetle.
    i agree, hassle i-balik ang wheel ng beetles namin, laluna if the tyre is oversize.
    we learned to use the cross wrench to pull the heavy wheel upward.
    'buti na lang, our ancient VWs' drums and disks are iron and not as sensitive to torqueing.



    there are stud guides for this purpose available or you can make one of a bolt with the same diameter and thread pitch and longer around three or more inches long. cut the head of the bolt and screw onto the hub for aligning the wheel holes through the fabricated tool.

    one thing i noticed in a couple of toyota assembly lines in nagoya, all four hubs have one stud bolt at 12 o'clock position. since robots are programmed to place one of the wheel bolt holes at exactly 12 o'clock position, all four tires are installed/torqued in less than four seconds.

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    German cars usually have stud guides given along with the tools ... owners of these cars rarely even look at the tool kit let alone know where it is located ...

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