BAD experience with nitrogen tires, bridestone at the fort

[michael677]

correct me if im wrong but i think im the 2ND person who have the same problem..
had my tires filled at bridgestone at the fort global city,
with supposedly 'constant' nitrogen air
and guess what, after just a 7km drive it went up by 2psi!
ok just to double check, i deflated it down by 2 and let it cool for 5 hours
and then upon returning home, it went up AGAIN by 2psi!!!

so brought it back to them
their tire gauges showed no increase of psi and then they said i am the first customer who experienced such problems..
they said it's unlikely that they mixed up the nitro with normal air
but upon inspection i couldnt find the GREEN or YELLOW labels to determine if its really nitrogen

i decided to give them the benefit of the doubt for the moment because i thought maybe my tire gauges is the one not working
but just before i let things go, i wasnt completely satisfied with their service,
especially with their service technician 'mr. R'
i thought he was NOT accomodating..

[speedyfix]

nitrogen isn't constant... as in no change... it is simply less prone to pressure variance.

[impulzz]

its doesn't mean when you filled up with nitrogen your tire pressure will remain the same. but it will not be as hot as tires with regular air. tire pressure will not fluctuate that big. nitrogen is inert but it does change temperature.

maybe this can help http://www.getnitrogen.org/why/index.php

from that site:

More Predictable Pressure Fluctuation – NASCAR teams use nitrogen so they can more accurately predict tire pressure fluctuation. Regular compressed air can fluctuate considerably when water vapor is present.

[FrankDrebin]

IMO,

From the start pala duda na ako dito sa Nitrogen air na ito? Simple Chinese-made commercial machine na nakakaproduce ng nitrogen air? Daig pa chemical factory eh.

[userfriendly]

IMO,

From the start pala duda na ako dito sa Nitrogen air na ito? Simple Chinese-made commercial machine na nakakaproduce ng nitrogen air? Daig pa chemical factory eh.

Baka may lead!

[FrankDrebin]

Another pic.

[mbeige]

Your experimentation is spot on, nothing to worry about.

You drove 7km, tire pressure rose 2psi because you warmed up the tires. When the tires were still warm you deflated the tire 2psi to get your target psi right? So when you drove home, which warmed up the tires again, your tires obviously increased by another 2psi. IMO that's better than what normal air does by increasing pressures by around 4 or 6psi at the maximum.

The way I do tire pressures on my cars is I pump in as much air to increase the psi above my target psi when the tires are cold. Then when I get home I let the car cool down, or better yet the next morning I check the pressures and set them accordingly. Then I run off to do my daily chores, and when I get home it's all good.

[jim]

the nitrogen mania is another means para kumita ang mga tire shops at auto shops. sa totoo lang in normal driving conditions we don't need nitrogen filled tires. now if you are going to have a long drive everyday the benefits may be considerable if you drive like hell

[BlueBimmer]

Wonder!

[chuaed]

sayang pera dagdag gastos lang nitrogen eck eck...

[michael677]

im not about to give up on nitrogen as it softened my ride a bit
i drive a 2005 explorer xlt, IMO ride is worse than the fortuner
so i plan to shell out another 400 pesos, this time at servitek p guevarra st.
i'll post my observations here

[theveed]

the nitrogen mania is another means para kumita ang mga tire shops at auto shops. sa totoo lang in normal driving conditions we don't need nitrogen filled tires. now if you are going to have a long drive everyday the benefits may be considerable if you drive like hell

Exactly, but I guess same reason why some folks driving 1.3 to 1.6L cars insisting they "need" Velocity/Blaze etc to run well hehe... Marketing loves placebo

[FrankDrebin]

If you guys insist on using Nitrogen, make sure there's a Nitrogen tank beside the machine as shown in this given URL.

http://www.nitrogentiremachine.com/

If non, hehehehe.

[niky]

Exactly, but I guess same reason why some folks driving 1.3 to 1.6L cars insisting they "need" Velocity/Blaze etc to run well hehe... Marketing loves placebo

Hey, my car needs Velocity...

Thanks to dyno-tuning, it won't run correctly on 92 octane anymore...

Some Japanese cars actually require 95 Octane (as per manual) for best performance, but 92 Octane won't hurt them.

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Technically, I should benefit from nitrogen, because I drive hard and long distance, but I see so much pressure change due to heat and I run over so many potholes (damn fricking SLEX) that I lose pressure no matter what's in the tires.

Some people with SUVs say that they ride better with nitrogen, but on lower profile tires (45-55 series), I honestly don't see a difference.

[theveed]

Niky, diba 2.0 ka? hehe

[cocoy]

as ive always said. 80% nitrogen is doing fine for me and my tires..

[niky]

Niky, diba 2.0 ka? hehe

Ahhhh.... touche... caught me there...

[the_wildthing]

Two words: Charles' Law.

[mazdamazda]

Errrr... even the tires that they use in F1 changes temperature (and is the most likely reason why Senna's car failed). ;)

[michael677]

hmm, guys you have a very good point about the fluctuating air pressure..

today, i went to Servitek san juan to full charge my tires with their brand of nitrogen. my first time was at fort bridgestone.

i was initially skeptical because there were chinese labels on it and i wasnt satisfied with my first nitrogen fill up. the brand is Wonder. but the machine (compressor-type also) is colored BLUE (that's good right!) compared with bridgestone's orange. the machine says 95-99% nitrogen.

so, i agreed at last .. come what may.. heheh
i had only 400 pesos to lose as against getting a new set of shock absorbers

my first impressions were VERY GOOD bouncy ride is still there but lessened. the ride is now softer. this is SO MUCH BETTER than my first nitrogen fill up

ill observe it for a couple of weeks then ill see if i still need to get shocks

till then, ciao!